Don White wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
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"Dan" wrote in message
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And yet another testimony to the lack of existence of the imaginary
"lobster boat" brought to you by Harry.

Sure can tell it's Friday.
Wild Bill has gone to town and gotten all liquored up again.

ooops..correction.
It's Diaper Dan this time..............



Took you 15 minutes to figure that one out, genius? Maybe you should
put down that Labatt and go to bed.

Harry Krause wrote:
Don White wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
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"Dan" wrote in message
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And yet another testimony to the lack of existence of the imaginary
"lobster boat" brought to you by Harry.

Sure can tell it's Friday.
Wild Bill has gone to town and gotten all liquored up again.

ooops..correction.
It's Diaper Dan this time..............



They all share the same dumb thought, so it really doesn't matter if no
one can keep their names straight.

It's called reading, Harry. Pretty simple stuff.

"Dan" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
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"Dan" wrote in message
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And yet another testimony to the lack of existence of the imaginary
"lobster boat" brought to you by Harry.

Sure can tell it's Friday.
Wild Bill has gone to town and gotten all liquored up again.

ooops..correction.
It's Diaper Dan this time..............

Took you 15 minutes to figure that one out, genius? Maybe you should put
down that Labatt and go to bed.


Sorry... I wondered if it was worthwhile to correct for several of those
minutes....
you know....the 'Twiddle Dee' and 'Twiddle Dum' factor.

"John H." wrote in message
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On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:06:27 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
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On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 01:34:19 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On 26 Apr 2007 18:08:12 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

Means that folks of ordinary or upper middle class
means aren't buying boats, and that volume is pretty crucial to
pricing of a lot of goods and services that even those of us who
aren't going to be trading boats any time soon consume on a regular
basis.

I've been saying that for over a year now just based on observation
and intuition.

I'm not exactly destitute, but it cost me $204 today to fill the truck
with diesel (30 gallons - $83) and fill the boat (42 gallons - $121)
after burning off the old fuel this afternoon.

Do that every weekend, plus all the other expenses of going to work
(which I don't do), increasing food and home energy costs, something
has to give and that's going to be the boat.

While the economy is stable, this notion of the FED that only core CPI
is a valid indicator of inflation and living costs is ridiculous. The
real rate of inflation is around 13% from the first of the year and
the FED is pretending it's only around 2.3% because they discount
energy and food. Last year, real inflation was something like 9%.

Add increasing income taxes, increasing fees (my registrations went up
this year by $5 across the board), insurance, etc., boating is the
first to go.

...and besides, golf is not only cheaper, it's better exercise than
fishing, unless you walk on water!

I used to golf, and I still think boating is cheaper. At least with a 21'
boat.


I just spent $1200 on repair of the power trim, tune up, lower unit
service, thermostat, etc. on my 21'er.

All of my clubs and shoes and bag came to less than that! And that doesn't
count $1800 a year storage, not to mention the cost of the boat. Of
course,
much of those costs are offset by all the fish I get to eat for free. :)



It is the ongoing costs. The new clubs each year or so. The cost of golf
and the 19th hole, or the wagers.

On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 00:03:41 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:06:27 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 01:34:19 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On 26 Apr 2007 18:08:12 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

Means that folks of ordinary or upper middle class
means aren't buying boats, and that volume is pretty crucial to
pricing of a lot of goods and services that even those of us who
aren't going to be trading boats any time soon consume on a regular
basis.

I've been saying that for over a year now just based on observation
and intuition.

I'm not exactly destitute, but it cost me $204 today to fill the truck
with diesel (30 gallons - $83) and fill the boat (42 gallons - $121)
after burning off the old fuel this afternoon.

Do that every weekend, plus all the other expenses of going to work
(which I don't do), increasing food and home energy costs, something
has to give and that's going to be the boat.

While the economy is stable, this notion of the FED that only core CPI
is a valid indicator of inflation and living costs is ridiculous. The
real rate of inflation is around 13% from the first of the year and
the FED is pretending it's only around 2.3% because they discount
energy and food. Last year, real inflation was something like 9%.

Add increasing income taxes, increasing fees (my registrations went up
this year by $5 across the board), insurance, etc., boating is the
first to go.

...and besides, golf is not only cheaper, it's better exercise than
fishing, unless you walk on water!

I used to golf, and I still think boating is cheaper. At least with a 21'
boat.


I just spent $1200 on repair of the power trim, tune up, lower unit
service, thermostat, etc. on my 21'er.

All of my clubs and shoes and bag came to less than that! And that doesn't
count $1800 a year storage, not to mention the cost of the boat. Of
course,
much of those costs are offset by all the fish I get to eat for free. :)



It is the ongoing costs. The new clubs each year or so. The cost of golf
and the 19th hole, or the wagers.


I suppose some folks buy new clubs every year, but I'm not one and don't
know anyone who does.

This year my boat will cost about $3200, just for storage, maintenance, and
insurance. If I take it out for a day's fishing, I'll spend $50-60 on gas.
That's about what a round of golf averages around here on the weekend. The
'19th hole' applies to boating and golfing.

I think golf is much cheaper!

On Apr 29, 2:27 pm, John H. wrote:


I think golf is much cheaper!-

But boating is usually more predictable, and for the most part, less
frustrating....

Tim wrote:
On Apr 29, 2:27 pm, John H. wrote:

I think golf is much cheaper!-

But boating is usually more predictable, and for the most part, less
frustrating....



Herring is a 28-30 handicap golfer, and an inept fisherman. Next, he'll
be trading his clubs in on a set of Chinese checkers.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Tim wrote:
On Apr 29, 2:27 pm, John H. wrote:

I think golf is much cheaper!-

But boating is usually more predictable, and for the most part, less
frustrating....



Herring is a 28-30 handicap golfer, and an inept fisherman. Next, he'll be
trading his clubs in on a set of Chinese checkers.

And you can do none of the 3.

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 00:03:41 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:06:27 GMT, "Calif Bill"

wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
m...
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 01:34:19 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On 26 Apr 2007 18:08:12 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

Means that folks of ordinary or upper middle class
means aren't buying boats, and that volume is pretty crucial to
pricing of a lot of goods and services that even those of us who
aren't going to be trading boats any time soon consume on a regular
basis.

I've been saying that for over a year now just based on observation
and intuition.

I'm not exactly destitute, but it cost me $204 today to fill the truck
with diesel (30 gallons - $83) and fill the boat (42 gallons - $121)
after burning off the old fuel this afternoon.

Do that every weekend, plus all the other expenses of going to work
(which I don't do), increasing food and home energy costs, something
has to give and that's going to be the boat.

While the economy is stable, this notion of the FED that only core CPI
is a valid indicator of inflation and living costs is ridiculous. The
real rate of inflation is around 13% from the first of the year and
the FED is pretending it's only around 2.3% because they discount
energy and food. Last year, real inflation was something like 9%.

Add increasing income taxes, increasing fees (my registrations went up
this year by $5 across the board), insurance, etc., boating is the
first to go.

...and besides, golf is not only cheaper, it's better exercise than
fishing, unless you walk on water!

I used to golf, and I still think boating is cheaper. At least with a
21'
boat.


I just spent $1200 on repair of the power trim, tune up, lower unit
service, thermostat, etc. on my 21'er.

All of my clubs and shoes and bag came to less than that! And that
doesn't
count $1800 a year storage, not to mention the cost of the boat. Of
course,
much of those costs are offset by all the fish I get to eat for free.
:)



It is the ongoing costs. The new clubs each year or so. The cost of golf
and the 19th hole, or the wagers.


I suppose some folks buy new clubs every year, but I'm not one and don't
know anyone who does.

This year my boat will cost about $3200, just for storage, maintenance,
and
insurance. If I take it out for a day's fishing, I'll spend $50-60 on gas.
That's about what a round of golf averages around here on the weekend. The
'19th hole' applies to boating and golfing.

I think golf is much cheaper!

Unless it is real slow play, the cost per hour is probably higher for golf.
Plus a day on the water is a lot more rejuvenating.

Calif Bill wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Tim wrote:
On Apr 29, 2:27 pm, John H. wrote:

I think golf is much cheaper!-
But boating is usually more predictable, and for the most part, less
frustrating....


Herring is a 28-30 handicap golfer, and an inept fisherman. Next, he'll be
trading his clubs in on a set of Chinese checkers.

And you can do none of the 3.




That's right, Bilious: I don't like golf.