On Apr 24, 6:28 pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:24 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:





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In oglegroups.com,
Tim
sprach forth the following:

Your tax dollars at work!

Who cares if someone is hurting themselves?

Because drug use often results in crimes on others to obtain money to
support the habit, especially with hard drugs like cocaine.

Quiz time, Jim. Think about violence related to the manufacture,
transport and sale of alcoholic beverages. When is the last time you
heard of that kind of violence SPECIFICALLY related to booze?

That has nothing to do with Fred's question. Nice try.

It has everything to do with it. But, I'm not surprised you missed it. Hint:
Forget the words "drug use" and think about the word "crimes". Or,
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for crying out loud. It's an article about the USCG hauling the bigest
drug bust they've ever had. 20 tons of coke!

I'm really amazed that the smugglers had the cargo sitting right on
the top for all the world to see.

that's brazenly foolish.- Hide quoted text -

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Or..... They thought they had all the enforcement (shakedown)
officials covered. You just don't get it, as much money is made by the
so called good guys in the drug business, as the bad guys.

On 25 Apr 2007 18:39:24 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 24, 6:28 pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:24 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:






Or..... They thought they had all the enforcement (shakedown)
officials covered. You just don't get it, as much money is made by the
so called good guys in the drug business, as the bad guys.


Well, apparently not all the enforcement folks are bad guys, right?

On Apr 26, 7:52 am, John H. wrote:
On 25 Apr 2007 18:39:24 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 24, 6:28 pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:24 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

Or..... They thought they had all the enforcement (shakedown)
officials covered. You just don't get it, as much money is made by the
so called good guys in the drug business, as the bad guys.

Well, apparently not all the enforcement folks are bad guys, right?

Right. Not all are all bad, in fact, probably very few, but in so many
police departments, the bad ones seem to rule. If you have a situation
where there are one or two out of a dozen or so that are bad, and the
rest are either afraid to expose them, or turn away due to the blue
shield of silence, you got a dirty dozen. I have seen otherwise good
cops go along with bad ones on too many occasions out of fear for
their jobs, or their own personal safety. Eventually, the good ones
just seem to go along. Where I grew up, the local police ran and
protected the drug business, everyone knew it, you just kept quiet and
stayed out or their way.

On 26 Apr 2007 08:21:45 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 26, 7:52 am, John H. wrote:
On 25 Apr 2007 18:39:24 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 24, 6:28 pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:24 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

Or..... They thought they had all the enforcement (shakedown)
officials covered. You just don't get it, as much money is made by the
so called good guys in the drug business, as the bad guys.

Well, apparently not all the enforcement folks are bad guys, right?

Right. Not all are all bad, in fact, probably very few, but in so many
police departments, the bad ones seem to rule. If you have a situation
where there are one or two out of a dozen or so that are bad, and the
rest are either afraid to expose them, or turn away due to the blue
shield of silence, you got a dirty dozen. I have seen otherwise good
cops go along with bad ones on too many occasions out of fear for
their jobs, or their own personal safety. Eventually, the good ones
just seem to go along. Where I grew up, the local police ran and
protected the drug business, everyone knew it, you just kept quiet and
stayed out or their way.

Strange. I've got two brothers who are retired cops. Neither are rich. And,
neither have discussed the rule of police departments by bad cops. That's
not to say they don't exist, but they may not be as prevalent as you make
them out to be.

On Apr 26, 3:14 pm, John H. wrote:
On 26 Apr 2007 08:21:45 -0700, wrote:





On Apr 26, 7:52 am, John H. wrote:
On 25 Apr 2007 18:39:24 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 24, 6:28 pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:24 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

Or..... They thought they had all the enforcement (shakedown)
officials covered. You just don't get it, as much money is made by the
so called good guys in the drug business, as the bad guys.

Well, apparently not all the enforcement folks are bad guys, right?

Right. Not all are all bad, in fact, probably very few, but in so many
police departments, the bad ones seem to rule. If you have a situation
where there are one or two out of a dozen or so that are bad, and the
rest are either afraid to expose them, or turn away due to the blue
shield of silence, you got a dirty dozen. I have seen otherwise good
cops go along with bad ones on too many occasions out of fear for
their jobs, or their own personal safety. Eventually, the good ones
just seem to go along. Where I grew up, the local police ran and
protected the drug business, everyone knew it, you just kept quiet and
stayed out or their way.

Strange. I've got two brothers who are retired cops. Neither are rich. And,
neither have discussed the rule of police departments by bad cops. That's
not to say they don't exist, but they may not be as prevalent as you make
them out to be.- Hide quoted text -

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Perhaps, but then again, as the old saying goes, "there is no such
thing as the mafia". Many times however these cops don't necessarily
think that their actions are "bad". I also have relatives who are
cops, and I would not want to cross em'. With respect for your sincere
debate, I will leave this one alone for now.

"John H." wrote in message
news
On 26 Apr 2007 08:21:45 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 26, 7:52 am, John H. wrote:
On 25 Apr 2007 18:39:24 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 24, 6:28 pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:24 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

Or..... They thought they had all the enforcement (shakedown)
officials covered. You just don't get it, as much money is made by the
so called good guys in the drug business, as the bad guys.

Well, apparently not all the enforcement folks are bad guys, right?

Right. Not all are all bad, in fact, probably very few, but in so many
police departments, the bad ones seem to rule. If you have a situation
where there are one or two out of a dozen or so that are bad, and the
rest are either afraid to expose them, or turn away due to the blue
shield of silence, you got a dirty dozen. I have seen otherwise good
cops go along with bad ones on too many occasions out of fear for
their jobs, or their own personal safety. Eventually, the good ones
just seem to go along. Where I grew up, the local police ran and
protected the drug business, everyone knew it, you just kept quiet and
stayed out or their way.

Strange. I've got two brothers who are retired cops. Neither are rich.
And,
neither have discussed the rule of police departments by bad cops. That's
not to say they don't exist, but they may not be as prevalent as you make
them out to be.

To varying degrees, many of them really are thugs with no respect for the
law.

Example: My ex got a ticket from a NY state trooper at 6:30 AM on an empty
highway, for not signalling when she changed lanes. I see troopers do this
constantly.

Example: In a club where my band plays often, I see off duty cops crawling
out the door at closing time, three sheets to the wind. They don't call a
taxi. They drive home. A cop from the sheriff's department is standing trial
this week for killing a motorcyclist. The cop blew a .24, three times the
legal limit in NY. His defense, according to TV news: Yes, he was ****
faced, but it was not related to the accident.

On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:14:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

To varying degrees, many of them really are thugs with no respect for the
law.

Cram it up your ass Doug.

Sideways.

"Tom Francis" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:14:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

To varying degrees, many of them really are thugs with no respect for the
law.

Cram it up your ass Doug.

Sideways.

Your son's a LEO, right?

On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:14:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
news
On 26 Apr 2007 08:21:45 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 26, 7:52 am, John H. wrote:
On 25 Apr 2007 18:39:24 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 24, 6:28 pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:24 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

Or..... They thought they had all the enforcement (shakedown)
officials covered. You just don't get it, as much money is made by the
so called good guys in the drug business, as the bad guys.

Well, apparently not all the enforcement folks are bad guys, right?

Right. Not all are all bad, in fact, probably very few, but in so many
police departments, the bad ones seem to rule. If you have a situation
where there are one or two out of a dozen or so that are bad, and the
rest are either afraid to expose them, or turn away due to the blue
shield of silence, you got a dirty dozen. I have seen otherwise good
cops go along with bad ones on too many occasions out of fear for
their jobs, or their own personal safety. Eventually, the good ones
just seem to go along. Where I grew up, the local police ran and
protected the drug business, everyone knew it, you just kept quiet and
stayed out or their way.

Strange. I've got two brothers who are retired cops. Neither are rich.
And,
neither have discussed the rule of police departments by bad cops. That's
not to say they don't exist, but they may not be as prevalent as you make
them out to be.

To varying degrees, many of them really are thugs with no respect for the
law.

Example: My ex got a ticket from a NY state trooper at 6:30 AM on an empty
highway, for not signalling when she changed lanes. I see troopers do this
constantly.

Example: In a club where my band plays often, I see off duty cops crawling
out the door at closing time, three sheets to the wind. They don't call a
taxi. They drive home. A cop from the sheriff's department is standing trial
this week for killing a motorcyclist. The cop blew a .24, three times the
legal limit in NY. His defense, according to TV news: Yes, he was ****
faced, but it was not related to the accident.


To varying degrees we're all thugs.

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"John H." wrote in message
news
On 26 Apr 2007 08:21:45 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 26, 7:52 am, John H. wrote:
On 25 Apr 2007 18:39:24 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 24, 6:28 pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:24 am, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Or..... They thought they had all the enforcement (shakedown)
officials covered. You just don't get it, as much money is made by the
so called good guys in the drug business, as the bad guys.

Well, apparently not all the enforcement folks are bad guys, right?

Right. Not all are all bad, in fact, probably very few, but in so many
police departments, the bad ones seem to rule. If you have a situation
where there are one or two out of a dozen or so that are bad, and the
rest are either afraid to expose them, or turn away due to the blue
shield of silence, you got a dirty dozen. I have seen otherwise good
cops go along with bad ones on too many occasions out of fear for
their jobs, or their own personal safety. Eventually, the good ones
just seem to go along. Where I grew up, the local police ran and
protected the drug business, everyone knew it, you just kept quiet and
stayed out or their way.

Strange. I've got two brothers who are retired cops. Neither are rich.
And,
neither have discussed the rule of police departments by bad cops. That's
not to say they don't exist, but they may not be as prevalent as you make
them out to be.

To varying degrees, many of them really are thugs with no respect for the
law.

Example: My ex got a ticket from a NY state trooper at 6:30 AM on an empty
highway, for not signalling when she changed lanes. I see troopers do this
constantly.

Example: In a club where my band plays often, I see off duty cops crawling
out the door at closing time, three sheets to the wind. They don't call a
taxi. They drive home. A cop from the sheriff's department is standing
trial this week for killing a motorcyclist. The cop blew a .24, three
times the legal limit in NY. His defense, according to TV news: Yes, he
was **** faced, but it was not related to the accident.


*Some* are indeed nothing more than bad guys carrying a badge. *Most*,
however, are good guys putting their lives on the line each and every day
for us.

Next time you desperately need a police officer remember what you just said
about them. ;-)