Chuck Gould wrote:
On Mar 9, 7:35?am, Harry Krause wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Mar 9, 5:16?am, JLH wrote:
On 8 Mar 2007 20:06:30 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:
On Mar 8, 6:47?pm, "JimH" wrote:
If one really didn't shot from shine, they'd think my report on a
visit to a boat factory was a "review". But one would have to be just
about dumber than a barnacle to arrive at that conclusion, so there's
darn little chance of it happening here in the NG. (On the remote
chance that you failed to notice, there *is no* boat to review. Just a
group of molded sections and a partially laid up hull.)
Chuck, what you're implying is a reading comprehension problem.
--
John H
Barnacle: A very low form of marine life that contributes nothing to
the normal operation of a boat and is a PITA simply "along for the
ride". Seems like there will always be a few barnacles. It's fortunate
that we don't have any posters to the NG who are non-contributing
lower life forms simply along for the ride.
But let's examine my egregious screw up:
How would I dare post some boating related content here? Will someobdy
please pray for my poor misguided soul and send me an email informing
me about it? That will give me something to post that would meet with
Jim's approval. I live and die by JimH's opinion of me, and it's so
distressing to see him unhappy or displeased.
Perhaps I should apologize to JimH and his on-line prayer group for
cluttering up the rec.boats board with comments about a visit to a
boat factory. Who gives a durn about boats or how one brand or another
is built? What was I thinking? Anybody know where I can buy a lottery
ticket? Not only would that be the highlight of my week, it would make
interesting, boating related reading. :-)
Perhaps you ought to read some Hemingway. Almost everything you post is
overwritten or overwrought or both. Write shorter sentences. Write
shorter paragraphs. Edit out the fluff.- Hide quoted text -

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Never claimed to write like Hemingway. One or two people like my
style. Sorry that you're not among them. :-)



I didn't suggest your writing was like Hemingway's, or that it should
be. I suggested you read some of his writings so that you might learn a
bit about saying more with less. He was the master of that.

On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 11:07:07 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Chuck Gould wrote:
On Mar 9, 7:35?am, Harry Krause wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Mar 9, 5:16?am, JLH wrote:
On 8 Mar 2007 20:06:30 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:
On Mar 8, 6:47?pm, "JimH" wrote:
If one really didn't shot from shine, they'd think my report on a
visit to a boat factory was a "review". But one would have to be just
about dumber than a barnacle to arrive at that conclusion, so there's
darn little chance of it happening here in the NG. (On the remote
chance that you failed to notice, there *is no* boat to review. Just a
group of molded sections and a partially laid up hull.)
Chuck, what you're implying is a reading comprehension problem.
--
John H
Barnacle: A very low form of marine life that contributes nothing to
the normal operation of a boat and is a PITA simply "along for the
ride". Seems like there will always be a few barnacles. It's fortunate
that we don't have any posters to the NG who are non-contributing
lower life forms simply along for the ride.
But let's examine my egregious screw up:
How would I dare post some boating related content here? Will someobdy
please pray for my poor misguided soul and send me an email informing
me about it? That will give me something to post that would meet with
Jim's approval. I live and die by JimH's opinion of me, and it's so
distressing to see him unhappy or displeased.
Perhaps I should apologize to JimH and his on-line prayer group for
cluttering up the rec.boats board with comments about a visit to a
boat factory. Who gives a durn about boats or how one brand or another
is built? What was I thinking? Anybody know where I can buy a lottery
ticket? Not only would that be the highlight of my week, it would make
interesting, boating related reading. :-)
Perhaps you ought to read some Hemingway. Almost everything you post is
overwritten or overwrought or both. Write shorter sentences. Write
shorter paragraphs. Edit out the fluff.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Never claimed to write like Hemingway. One or two people like my
style. Sorry that you're not among them. :-)



I didn't suggest your writing was like Hemingway's, or that it should
be. I suggested you read some of his writings so that you might learn a
bit about saying more with less. He was the master of that.

Harry, it's so strange how your appreciation of Chuck's writing has changed
since the political fighting in the group has gone down!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Mar 9, 8:47?am, JLH wrote:
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 11:07:07 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:





Chuck Gould wrote:
On Mar 9, 7:35?am, Harry Krause wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Mar 9, 5:16?am, JLH wrote:
On 8 Mar 2007 20:06:30 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:
On Mar 8, 6:47?pm, "JimH" wrote:
If one really didn't shot from shine, they'd think my report on a
visit to a boat factory was a "review". But one would have to be just
about dumber than a barnacle to arrive at that conclusion, so there's
darn little chance of it happening here in the NG. (On the remote
chance that you failed to notice, there *is no* boat to review. Just a
group of molded sections and a partially laid up hull.)
Chuck, what you're implying is a reading comprehension problem.
--
John H
Barnacle: A very low form of marine life that contributes nothing to
the normal operation of a boat and is a PITA simply "along for the
ride". Seems like there will always be a few barnacles. It's fortunate
that we don't have any posters to the NG who are non-contributing
lower life forms simply along for the ride.
But let's examine my egregious screw up:
How would I dare post some boating related content here? Will someobdy
please pray for my poor misguided soul and send me an email informing
me about it? That will give me something to post that would meet with
Jim's approval. I live and die by JimH's opinion of me, and it's so
distressing to see him unhappy or displeased.
Perhaps I should apologize to JimH and his on-line prayer group for
cluttering up the rec.boats board with comments about a visit to a
boat factory. Who gives a durn about boats or how one brand or another
is built? What was I thinking? Anybody know where I can buy a lottery
ticket? Not only would that be the highlight of my week, it would make
interesting, boating related reading. :-)
Perhaps you ought to read some Hemingway. Almost everything you post is
overwritten or overwrought or both. Write shorter sentences. Write
shorter paragraphs. Edit out the fluff.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Never claimed to write like Hemingway. One or two people like my
style. Sorry that you're not among them. :-)

I didn't suggest your writing was like Hemingway's, or that it should
be. I suggested you read some of his writings so that you might learn a
bit about saying more with less. He was the master of that.

Harry, it's so strange how your appreciation of Chuck's writing has changed
since the political fighting in the group has gone down!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Actually, Harry is partially correct. A lot of what appears here is
sort of a "stream of consciousness" format. I don't edit, spell check,
etc and some of the sentences run on far too long. It's a tendency I
struggle with in things that actually matter, but the NG is simply
typewritten conversation and a lower standard applies.

On 9 Mar 2007 08:51:59 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

Actually, Harry is partially correct. A lot of what appears here is
sort of a "stream of consciousness" format. I don't edit, spell check,
etc and some of the sentences run on far too long. It's a tendency I
struggle with in things that actually matter, but the NG is simply
typewritten conversation and a lower standard applies.

I have a very good friend, known her for years, who is a freelancer in
the medical field. Very sharp and knows her stuff.

I swear to you, we've discussed her articles ad nauseam - she cannot
deliver a 1000 word article in under 2500 words. :) Almost
everything she does has to be broken into two parts.

One time she sent me an article she did about some strange type of
skin cancer and asked me what I thought of it. I replied with my
usual "you've got to gut this and get to the point" so she challenged
me to gut it and still make it meaningful. She would submit both
pieces and see which one was accepted.

I did, I won and she didn't speak to me for two weeks. :)

"Tom Francis" wrote in message
...
On 9 Mar 2007 08:51:59 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

Actually, Harry is partially correct. A lot of what appears here is
sort of a "stream of consciousness" format. I don't edit, spell check,
etc and some of the sentences run on far too long. It's a tendency I
struggle with in things that actually matter, but the NG is simply
typewritten conversation and a lower standard applies.

I have a very good friend, known her for years, who is a freelancer in
the medical field. Very sharp and knows her stuff.

I swear to you, we've discussed her articles ad nauseam - she cannot
deliver a 1000 word article in under 2500 words. :) Almost
everything she does has to be broken into two parts.

One time she sent me an article she did about some strange type of
skin cancer and asked me what I thought of it. I replied with my
usual "you've got to gut this and get to the point" so she challenged
me to gut it and still make it meaningful. She would submit both
pieces and see which one was accepted.

I did, I won and she didn't speak to me for two weeks. :)

Friend of the family was a hard hat diver during WW2. He also wrote stories
for the paperback publishers. He said he always put in lots of descriptions
of the land, and building. Got paid by the word. He said he also read a
lot of paperbacks during work. The divers would take a book with them and
just tear out the page after they read it and let if float off as they hung
on the line during decompression stops.

Calif Bill wrote:
"Tom Francis" wrote in message
...
On 9 Mar 2007 08:51:59 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

Actually, Harry is partially correct. A lot of what appears here is
sort of a "stream of consciousness" format. I don't edit, spell check,
etc and some of the sentences run on far too long. It's a tendency I
struggle with in things that actually matter, but the NG is simply
typewritten conversation and a lower standard applies.
I have a very good friend, known her for years, who is a freelancer in
the medical field. Very sharp and knows her stuff.

I swear to you, we've discussed her articles ad nauseam - she cannot
deliver a 1000 word article in under 2500 words. :) Almost
everything she does has to be broken into two parts.

One time she sent me an article she did about some strange type of
skin cancer and asked me what I thought of it. I replied with my
usual "you've got to gut this and get to the point" so she challenged
me to gut it and still make it meaningful. She would submit both
pieces and see which one was accepted.

I did, I won and she didn't speak to me for two weeks. :)

Friend of the family was a hard hat diver during WW2. He also wrote stories
for the paperback publishers. He said he always put in lots of descriptions
of the land, and building. Got paid by the word. He said he also read a
lot of paperbacks during work. The divers would take a book with them and
just tear out the page after they read it and let if float off as they hung
on the line during decompression stops.




I had a college buddy who wrote smutty novels to put himself through
school. Got something like 7 cents a word. :}

When I wrote for PC Week magazine, I got about $1.25 a word. Wrote an
every other week article, about 750 words. A grand a column. Much more
than BYTE magazine paid me, and even more than PC Magazine paid me. This
was the year after Peter Norton introduced his first set of utilities.
The dark ages.

Anyone remember Volkswriter? Neat word processor written by a Chilean
named "Camille...something or other" out in Monterey, California, guy
who did it as a moonlight project while an employee of the Navy language
school.

On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:08:00 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Calif Bill wrote:
"Tom Francis" wrote in message
...
On 9 Mar 2007 08:51:59 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

Actually, Harry is partially correct. A lot of what appears here is
sort of a "stream of consciousness" format. I don't edit, spell check,
etc and some of the sentences run on far too long. It's a tendency I
struggle with in things that actually matter, but the NG is simply
typewritten conversation and a lower standard applies.
I have a very good friend, known her for years, who is a freelancer in
the medical field. Very sharp and knows her stuff.

I swear to you, we've discussed her articles ad nauseam - she cannot
deliver a 1000 word article in under 2500 words. :) Almost
everything she does has to be broken into two parts.

One time she sent me an article she did about some strange type of
skin cancer and asked me what I thought of it. I replied with my
usual "you've got to gut this and get to the point" so she challenged
me to gut it and still make it meaningful. She would submit both
pieces and see which one was accepted.

I did, I won and she didn't speak to me for two weeks. :)

Friend of the family was a hard hat diver during WW2. He also wrote stories
for the paperback publishers. He said he always put in lots of descriptions
of the land, and building. Got paid by the word. He said he also read a
lot of paperbacks during work. The divers would take a book with them and
just tear out the page after they read it and let if float off as they hung
on the line during decompression stops.

I had a college buddy who wrote smutty novels to put himself through
school. Got something like 7 cents a word. :}

When I wrote for PC Week magazine, I got about $1.25 a word. Wrote an
every other week article, about 750 words. A grand a column. Much more
than BYTE magazine paid me, and even more than PC Magazine paid me. This
was the year after Peter Norton introduced his first set of utilities.
The dark ages.

Wayne Green was a cheap...um...never mind.

Anyone remember Volkswriter? Neat word processor written by a Chilean
named "Camille...something or other" out in Monterey, California, guy
who did it as a moonlight project while an employee of the Navy language
school.

Yep.

My all time favorite was Wordstar for CPM.

I still say that was the best word processor ever.

On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 17:01:57 GMT, Tom Francis
wrote:

I swear to you, we've discussed her articles ad nauseam - she cannot
deliver a 1000 word article in under 2500 words. :) Almost
everything she does has to be broken into two parts.

One time she sent me an article she did about some strange type of
skin cancer and asked me what I thought of it. I replied with my
usual "you've got to gut this and get to the point" so she challenged
me to gut it and still make it meaningful. She would submit both
pieces and see which one was accepted.

I did, I won and she didn't speak to me for two weeks. :)

Being paid by the word just might have an impact on your writing style
I suspect.

You probably cost her some serious $$$s.

On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 01:10:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 17:01:57 GMT, Tom Francis
wrote:

I swear to you, we've discussed her articles ad nauseam - she cannot
deliver a 1000 word article in under 2500 words. :) Almost
everything she does has to be broken into two parts.

One time she sent me an article she did about some strange type of
skin cancer and asked me what I thought of it. I replied with my
usual "you've got to gut this and get to the point" so she challenged
me to gut it and still make it meaningful. She would submit both
pieces and see which one was accepted.

I did, I won and she didn't speak to me for two weeks. :)

Being paid by the word just might have an impact on your writing style
I suspect.

You probably cost her some serious $$$s.

Well, in her case, it's a question of being very, extremely and
incredibly smart and a deep researcher. When she gets on a roll, she
just doesn't know when to quit - everything is fair game.

I've often told her that what she really needs to do is return to
school and this time, take up medicine. :)

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 01:10:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 17:01:57 GMT, Tom Francis
wrote:

I swear to you, we've discussed her articles ad nauseam - she cannot
deliver a 1000 word article in under 2500 words. :) Almost
everything she does has to be broken into two parts.

One time she sent me an article she did about some strange type of
skin cancer and asked me what I thought of it. I replied with my
usual "you've got to gut this and get to the point" so she challenged
me to gut it and still make it meaningful. She would submit both
pieces and see which one was accepted.

I did, I won and she didn't speak to me for two weeks. :)
Being paid by the word just might have an impact on your writing style
I suspect.

You probably cost her some serious $$$s.

Well, in her case, it's a question of being very, extremely and
incredibly smart and a deep researcher. When she gets on a roll, she
just doesn't know when to quit - everything is fair game.

I've often told her that what she really needs to do is return to
school and this time, take up medicine. :)

Charles Dickens was "paid by the word", in that all of his stories were
serialized and the longer he dragged out the story, the more he was
paid. It was very similar to the old Saturday movie serials where each
installment had a cliff hanger. What I find even more interesting is
since Dickens rarely was a few chapters ahead of the publications, he
would be able to see the public response to his story, and alter it
based upon their reaction. Todays equivalent of the movie "preview",
where the studios show different cuts and different endings to the same
movie.