On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 10:35:06 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:



Perhaps you ought to read some Hemingway. Almost everything you post is
overwritten or overwrought or both. Write shorter sentences. Write
shorter paragraphs. Edit out the fluff.

Yeah, yeah. Leave out all technical info, and talk about the
iridescence of the night time sea. Take it to arts.poetry.
Chucks's stuff is fine.
Besides, I remember a nicely rendered vision of ice glazed harbor from
Chuck. Very nice, in fact.

--Vic

On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 11:05:00 -0500, RJSmithers
wrote:

Chuck Gould wrote:


I find your articles as good as any I have seen in any boating mags,
they are better than many I have read.

Seconded. But I never read a boat mag. Get all my info from the
illustrious experts here, one and all. Well, almost.....

--Vic

On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 11:07:07 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


I didn't suggest your writing was like Hemingway's, or that it should
be. I suggested you read some of his writings so that you might learn a
bit about saying more with less. He was the master of that.

Hills Like White Elephants - almost all dialogue.
Unfortunately, Elephants can't plane.

--Vic

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Chuck Gould wrote:
On Mar 9, 7:35?am, Harry Krause wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Mar 9, 5:16?am, JLH wrote:
On 8 Mar 2007 20:06:30 -0800, "Chuck Gould"

wrote:
On Mar 8, 6:47?pm, "JimH" wrote:
If one really didn't shot from shine, they'd think my report on a
visit to a boat factory was a "review". But one would have to be just
about dumber than a barnacle to arrive at that conclusion, so there's
darn little chance of it happening here in the NG. (On the remote
chance that you failed to notice, there *is no* boat to review. Just
a
group of molded sections and a partially laid up hull.)
Chuck, what you're implying is a reading comprehension problem.
--
John H
Barnacle: A very low form of marine life that contributes nothing to
the normal operation of a boat and is a PITA simply "along for the
ride". Seems like there will always be a few barnacles. It's fortunate
that we don't have any posters to the NG who are non-contributing
lower life forms simply along for the ride.
But let's examine my egregious screw up:
How would I dare post some boating related content here? Will someobdy
please pray for my poor misguided soul and send me an email informing
me about it? That will give me something to post that would meet with
Jim's approval. I live and die by JimH's opinion of me, and it's so
distressing to see him unhappy or displeased.
Perhaps I should apologize to JimH and his on-line prayer group for
cluttering up the rec.boats board with comments about a visit to a
boat factory. Who gives a durn about boats or how one brand or another
is built? What was I thinking? Anybody know where I can buy a lottery
ticket? Not only would that be the highlight of my week, it would make
interesting, boating related reading. :-)
Perhaps you ought to read some Hemingway. Almost everything you post is
overwritten or overwrought or both. Write shorter sentences. Write
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Never claimed to write like Hemingway. One or two people like my
style. Sorry that you're not among them. :-)



I didn't suggest your writing was like Hemingway's, or that it should be.
I suggested you read some of his writings so that you might learn a bit
about saying more with less. He was the master of that.

As opposed to saying less with less? Dan

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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On Mar 8, 6:03?pm, "Danlw" wrote:
"Danlw" wrote in message

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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I got invited up to observe the progress of the new Fathom 40. Hull #1
is being created in a mammoth aluminum shed up in the bustling town of
Sedro Wooley, WA. Many of the interior layups are done, the stringer
grid popped out of the mold yesterday afternoon, and the hull is
getting prepped for infusion.

Interesting pedigree for this boat; the three partners in the company
were all in upper management positions of Nordic Tug (in fact, one was
the president for several years). Five of these boats have already
been sold, and the first one hasn't been completed.

They hope to have the first boat launched in time to have it in
Seattle for Opening Day, May 5.

The wonders of compter assisted design never cease to amaze me. In one
corner of the plant there's a guy building wiring harnesses. Every
single wire is labeled, of course, and they are all precut to the
exact length they will need to be and have the appropriate connectors
installed. Using the 3D images on the computer screen, they know how
each wire will route, what side of a system or accessory it will
connect to, etc. The guy building the harnesses admitted that there
could be some risk in putting together wires for a hull that hasn't
yet been assembled. "We could be off by as much a 1/1000th of an
inch," he said. :-)

One thing that I thought was notable, some of the infusion molds make
as many as 9 parts at once. For example, there are some cutouts in the
form used for the cabintop above the pilothouse. Rather than mold
around the "hole", a small part is built into the mold and included
in the infusion matrix. In one case, the cover for a grey water tank
was being created in what would have been a wasted "space" in the old
days- and there would have been additional expense for laying up the
small part as a separate item.

I always enjoy watching boats being built. Couldn't do it for a
living, the fiberglass smell drives me nuts within short order.
The new infusion processes seem to have radically reduced the amount
of fumes in the air- but there are still more than I'd care to breathe
on a regular basis.

The systems and materials chosen for this vessel inspire confidence
that it will be a pretty good boat when finished.
The experience of the partners and their key employees (mostly lured
away from guess who) also bodes well for the Fathom 40.

Is this the one designed by George C Marshall?
Thanks, Dan

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It is. Ric Reid, (former president of Nordic Tug), told me that Greg
had the design together within just a few days of accepting the
contract. "We're pretty sure he'd been working on this concept for the
last few years as a kind of designer's pet project," he said.

Some unusual aspects: There's no skeg. The theory is that the prop
wash against the skeg increases vibration. The prop is protected by
virtue of the fact that the keel extends down below the blades.

There is stand-up headroom on the port side of the engine room. The
molding for the main deck has a raised settee above the port side of
the engine room, and that creates the necessary vertical clearance.
Stand-up room in portion of the engine room is quite a feat on most 40-
footers..

The hull is a split mold, and will be cored above the waterline. Darn
nearly everything will be infusion molded.

More info:

http://fathomyachts.com/

Interesting. I had noticed that it was Marshall that designed the 85'
Pacific Mariner while at the boat show and had looked at his web site and
there was a bit of info on the 40' Fathom--more in my price range. Hope to
see the finished product. Dan

On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 11:10:48 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Purple prose is painful.

Whining whiners are whimpy...

On 9 Mar 2007 08:51:59 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

the NG is simply
typewritten conversation and a lower standard applies.

Oh yes, much lower indeed.

On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 17:01:57 GMT, Tom Francis
wrote:

I swear to you, we've discussed her articles ad nauseam - she cannot
deliver a 1000 word article in under 2500 words. :) Almost
everything she does has to be broken into two parts.

One time she sent me an article she did about some strange type of
skin cancer and asked me what I thought of it. I replied with my
usual "you've got to gut this and get to the point" so she challenged
me to gut it and still make it meaningful. She would submit both
pieces and see which one was accepted.

I did, I won and she didn't speak to me for two weeks. :)

Being paid by the word just might have an impact on your writing style
I suspect.

You probably cost her some serious $$$s.

On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:35:03 GMT, Tom Francis
wrote:

Wayne Green was a cheap...um...never mind.

He was an interesting character though. I believe he was married to
the publisher of BYTE (maybe Virginia Green ?), and she claimed he had
nothing to fo with the magazine. Who knows, the truth about some
things with NSD was elusive.

I always enjoyed Steve Ciarcia's Circuit Cellar articles although I
don't think I ever built any of his projects. Apparently he's still
around:

http://www.circuitcellar.com/


Anyone remember Volkswriter? Neat word processor written by a Chilean
named "Camille...something or other" out in Monterey, California, guy
who did it as a moonlight project while an employee of the Navy language
school.

Yep.

My all time favorite was Wordstar for CPM.

I still say that was the best word processor ever.

I agree. What you saw is what you got, no surprises. Wish I had a
dollar for every time I've cursed out MS Word. Unfortunately it has
become a standard.

On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 20:52:12 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

I remember a nicely rendered vision of ice glazed harbor from
Chuck. Very nice, in fact.

Indeed it was.

If it's true that one is defined more by enemies than friends, Chuck
is doing just fine. I have had an issue with a few of the past
infomercials but that message may have been received.