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Per Bill Tuthill:
Hopefully I can troll for discussion about breathable fabrics. Kokatat still uses Goretex in most of their drysuits, except a semi-drysuit with Tropos. I don't know if they have switched their high-end drysuits to Goretex XCR yet. Here's an anecdotal/single-data point observation: Today I did about 45 minutes pretty hard wearing my old Bare Polar (neo john bonded to coated nylon bag top). I usually do 1.5-2 hours, but today I didn't put the right mitts on soon enough and my hands got cold. Having ripped the neck seal on my "good" suit (a Kokatat Goretex w/the sock option), I wasn't particularly looking forward to going out today. Surprise. I think upper-body mobility in the Bare was significantly better than in the Kokatat full-bag. Don't ask me why....but that's how it seemed to me - who was expecting the worst. OTOH, my car definitely runs better after it's been washed.... -) The lower-body mobility was no contest: the neo john won hands-down. As far as being wet goes, I don't think my shirt was any wetter inside the coated nylon that it gets inside the GoreTex. I suspect that the main diff is that, as somebody else observed, if I stop working long enough I'll dry out in the GoreTex. Given the amount of sweat that I accumulate in, say, 90 minutes of hard paddling (about half a kilo as measured by weighing my shirt before/after) I don't hold out much hope for any vapor-transmitting system tb a significant improvement over GoreTex. I'm still looking forward to repairing the Kokatat because of the ease of entry/egress (you gotta stop to pee in the Bare and, believe me, you've got a problem. Not an insurmountable one, but it's gonna be 10-15 minute stop. Also, the GoreTex bag is more tunable. 5mm of neoprene doesn't leave much latitude for adjustment except in the thickness of the top undergarment. Finally, if somebody's trolling for dry suit info, I'd opine that if Kokatat is calling out to them, they also need to check out www.ossystems.com - particularly the "Spirit". The long zipper seems to eliminate the need for a convenience zipper and it looks to me like they've got a friendlier sizing system for us statistical outliers. -- PeteCresswell |
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