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Portable AC
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On 7 Dec 2006 07:36:47 -0800, "258Vista" wrote: Does anyone have any experience using one of these 12V portable AC units on a boat. They look like a good option, but I was curious if anyone had any feedback on how they cool and how much ice they use. The website says 20lbs an hour which is a lot, wondering if anyone has used this before. http://www.swampy.net/ac12.html Does anybody besides me: 1 - think this is a little obvious? 2 - Is reminded of the classic cartoon air conditions - a block of ice and a rotating fan? :) Yes! |
Portable AC
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On 7 Dec 2006 07:36:47 -0800, "258Vista" wrote: Does anyone have any experience using one of these 12V portable AC units on a boat. They look like a good option, but I was curious if anyone had any feedback on how they cool and how much ice they use. The website says 20lbs an hour which is a lot, wondering if anyone has used this before. http://www.swampy.net/ac12.html Does anybody besides me: 1 - think this is a little obvious? 2 - Is reminded of the classic cartoon air conditions - a block of ice and a rotating fan? :) Yes! |
Portable AC
basskisser wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On 7 Dec 2006 07:36:47 -0800, "258Vista" wrote: Does anyone have any experience using one of these 12V portable AC units on a boat. They look like a good option, but I was curious if anyone had any feedback on how they cool and how much ice they use. The website says 20lbs an hour which is a lot, wondering if anyone has used this before. http://www.swampy.net/ac12.html Does anybody besides me: 1 - think this is a little obvious? 2 - Is reminded of the classic cartoon air conditions - a block of ice and a rotating fan? :) Yes! That's what I was thinking...and how humid that would be in a boat cabin. |
Portable AC
"basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... Sam wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ps.com... 258Vista wrote: Does anyone have any experience using one of these 12V portable AC units on a boat. They look like a good option, but I was curious if anyone had any feedback on how they cool and how much ice they use. The website says 20lbs an hour which is a lot, wondering if anyone has used this before. http://www.swampy.net/ac12.html I'm wondering why the ice chest? Just to pump hot air in and suck cold out, might as well use a cardboard box. You're not really that dumb, are you? What difference would it make? The function of an ice chest is to insulate. If you are pumping hot air into it, why would you need to insulate it? This unit works by pumping cold *water* through a heat exchanger, not air across ice. If you think different, show me the science. The science is basic- heat always moves to cold. The cooler is insulating the ice from absorbing heat from whatever it is resting on, thus saving the ice for where it can be used more efficiently- in the heat exchanger. |
Portable AC
Sam wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... Sam wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ps.com... 258Vista wrote: Does anyone have any experience using one of these 12V portable AC units on a boat. They look like a good option, but I was curious if anyone had any feedback on how they cool and how much ice they use. The website says 20lbs an hour which is a lot, wondering if anyone has used this before. http://www.swampy.net/ac12.html I'm wondering why the ice chest? Just to pump hot air in and suck cold out, might as well use a cardboard box. You're not really that dumb, are you? What difference would it make? The function of an ice chest is to insulate. If you are pumping hot air into it, why would you need to insulate it? This unit works by pumping cold *water* through a heat exchanger, not air across ice. If you think different, show me the science. The science is basic- heat always moves to cold. The cooler is insulating the ice from absorbing heat from whatever it is resting on, thus saving the ice for where it can be used more efficiently- in the heat exchanger. Horse****!!! The science is cold is simply lack of heat. You are blowing the same exact air across the ice that the ice would be exposed to. If you are pumping 90 degree air into that cooler, what difference would it make whether or not the container was insulated??? Try it. Take a given amount of ice and put in a ice chest. Place another in a cardboard box. Blow the same exact amount of air into each, with the same exact equipment, and the same exact exhaust. Measure the temperature of the exhaust. Guess what? They'll be the same. |
Portable AC
"basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Sam wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... Sam wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ps.com... 258Vista wrote: Does anyone have any experience using one of these 12V portable AC units on a boat. They look like a good option, but I was curious if anyone had any feedback on how they cool and how much ice they use. The website says 20lbs an hour which is a lot, wondering if anyone has used this before. http://www.swampy.net/ac12.html I'm wondering why the ice chest? Just to pump hot air in and suck cold out, might as well use a cardboard box. You're not really that dumb, are you? What difference would it make? The function of an ice chest is to insulate. If you are pumping hot air into it, why would you need to insulate it? This unit works by pumping cold *water* through a heat exchanger, not air across ice. If you think different, show me the science. The science is basic- heat always moves to cold. The cooler is insulating the ice from absorbing heat from whatever it is resting on, thus saving the ice for where it can be used more efficiently- in the heat exchanger. Horse****!!! The science is cold is simply lack of heat. You are blowing the same exact air across the ice that the ice would be exposed to. If you are pumping 90 degree air into that cooler, what difference would it make whether or not the container was insulated??? Try it. Take a given amount of ice and put in a ice chest. Place another in a cardboard box. Blow the same exact amount of air into each, with the same exact equipment, and the same exact exhaust. Measure the temperature of the exhaust. Guess what? They'll be the same. You really are that dumb. |
Portable AC
Sam wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Sam wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... Sam wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ps.com... 258Vista wrote: Does anyone have any experience using one of these 12V portable AC units on a boat. They look like a good option, but I was curious if anyone had any feedback on how they cool and how much ice they use. The website says 20lbs an hour which is a lot, wondering if anyone has used this before. http://www.swampy.net/ac12.html I'm wondering why the ice chest? Just to pump hot air in and suck cold out, might as well use a cardboard box. You're not really that dumb, are you? What difference would it make? The function of an ice chest is to insulate. If you are pumping hot air into it, why would you need to insulate it? This unit works by pumping cold *water* through a heat exchanger, not air across ice. If you think different, show me the science. The science is basic- heat always moves to cold. The cooler is insulating the ice from absorbing heat from whatever it is resting on, thus saving the ice for where it can be used more efficiently- in the heat exchanger. Horse****!!! The science is cold is simply lack of heat. You are blowing the same exact air across the ice that the ice would be exposed to. If you are pumping 90 degree air into that cooler, what difference would it make whether or not the container was insulated??? Try it. Take a given amount of ice and put in a ice chest. Place another in a cardboard box. Blow the same exact amount of air into each, with the same exact equipment, and the same exact exhaust. Measure the temperature of the exhaust. Guess what? They'll be the same. You really are that dumb. \Well, damn! Tell me HOW in the hell insulation would help if you are pumping the exact same are that you are trying to insulate FROM right into the cooler!!??? Again, see my last two sentences above. Try it. Everything exactly the same except for the container. And again, if you are pumping the same exact air into the chest that you are trying to insulate from, just what IS the insulation doing? Take this for instance. Take a piece of isopolycyanurate insulation outdoors. Take the temperature on one side of the piece. Take the temperature on the other side of the piece. Huh? They are the same? Imagine THAT! That is exactly the scenario you'll see with the ice chest. You are pumping air into it that is exactly the same temperature as that that you are trying to insulate against. Dumb indeed! |
Portable AC
"basskisser" wrote in message ps.com... Sam wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Sam wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... Sam wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ps.com... 258Vista wrote: Does anyone have any experience using one of these 12V portable AC units on a boat. They look like a good option, but I was curious if anyone had any feedback on how they cool and how much ice they use. The website says 20lbs an hour which is a lot, wondering if anyone has used this before. http://www.swampy.net/ac12.html I'm wondering why the ice chest? Just to pump hot air in and suck cold out, might as well use a cardboard box. You're not really that dumb, are you? What difference would it make? The function of an ice chest is to insulate. If you are pumping hot air into it, why would you need to insulate it? This unit works by pumping cold *water* through a heat exchanger, not air across ice. If you think different, show me the science. The science is basic- heat always moves to cold. The cooler is insulating the ice from absorbing heat from whatever it is resting on, thus saving the ice for where it can be used more efficiently- in the heat exchanger. Horse****!!! The science is cold is simply lack of heat. You are blowing the same exact air across the ice that the ice would be exposed to. If you are pumping 90 degree air into that cooler, what difference would it make whether or not the container was insulated??? Try it. Take a given amount of ice and put in a ice chest. Place another in a cardboard box. Blow the same exact amount of air into each, with the same exact equipment, and the same exact exhaust. Measure the temperature of the exhaust. Guess what? They'll be the same. You really are that dumb. \Well, damn! Tell me HOW in the hell insulation would help if you are pumping the exact same are that you are trying to insulate FROM right into the cooler!!??? Again, see my last two sentences above. Try it. Everything exactly the same except for the container. And again, if you are pumping the same exact air into the chest that you are trying to insulate from, just what IS the insulation doing? Take this for instance. Take a piece of isopolycyanurate insulation outdoors. Take the temperature on one side of the piece. Take the temperature on the other side of the piece. Huh? They are the same? Imagine THAT! That is exactly the scenario you'll see with the ice chest. You are pumping air into it that is exactly the same temperature as that that you are trying to insulate against. Dumb indeed! Lets make this easier for you. I'll just repost 1 sentence. Try and comprehend it then get back to me. "This unit works by pumping cold *water* through a heat exchanger, not air across ice." |
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Sam wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ps.com... Sam wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Sam wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... Sam wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ps.com... 258Vista wrote: Does anyone have any experience using one of these 12V portable AC units on a boat. They look like a good option, but I was curious if anyone had any feedback on how they cool and how much ice they use. The website says 20lbs an hour which is a lot, wondering if anyone has used this before. http://www.swampy.net/ac12.html I'm wondering why the ice chest? Just to pump hot air in and suck cold out, might as well use a cardboard box. You're not really that dumb, are you? What difference would it make? The function of an ice chest is to insulate. If you are pumping hot air into it, why would you need to insulate it? This unit works by pumping cold *water* through a heat exchanger, not air across ice. If you think different, show me the science. The science is basic- heat always moves to cold. The cooler is insulating the ice from absorbing heat from whatever it is resting on, thus saving the ice for where it can be used more efficiently- in the heat exchanger. Horse****!!! The science is cold is simply lack of heat. You are blowing the same exact air across the ice that the ice would be exposed to. If you are pumping 90 degree air into that cooler, what difference would it make whether or not the container was insulated??? Try it. Take a given amount of ice and put in a ice chest. Place another in a cardboard box. Blow the same exact amount of air into each, with the same exact equipment, and the same exact exhaust. Measure the temperature of the exhaust. Guess what? They'll be the same. You really are that dumb. \Well, damn! Tell me HOW in the hell insulation would help if you are pumping the exact same are that you are trying to insulate FROM right into the cooler!!??? Again, see my last two sentences above. Try it. Everything exactly the same except for the container. And again, if you are pumping the same exact air into the chest that you are trying to insulate from, just what IS the insulation doing? Take this for instance. Take a piece of isopolycyanurate insulation outdoors. Take the temperature on one side of the piece. Take the temperature on the other side of the piece. Huh? They are the same? Imagine THAT! That is exactly the scenario you'll see with the ice chest. You are pumping air into it that is exactly the same temperature as that that you are trying to insulate against. Dumb indeed! Lets make this easier for you. I'll just repost 1 sentence. Try and comprehend it then get back to me. "This unit works by pumping cold *water* through a heat exchanger, not air across ice." And it will work the same exact way whether it's water, air whatever. What you are failing to understand is that once water (or air, or whatever) goes through the heat exchanger, it's what? HOT. So, you force water (or air or whatever) through an ice chest. How does the ice chest help? In order for this thing to work, then the water would be at a higher temperature going back into the thing than the ambient air temperature. Ergo, again, the ice chest is useless except for a holding vessel. |
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You really are that dumb.
Wow... he really is. --Mike "Sam" wrote in message news:DWzeh.628$Ft4.14@trnddc02... "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Sam wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... Sam wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ps.com... 258Vista wrote: Does anyone have any experience using one of these 12V portable AC units on a boat. They look like a good option, but I was curious if anyone had any feedback on how they cool and how much ice they use. The website says 20lbs an hour which is a lot, wondering if anyone has used this before. http://www.swampy.net/ac12.html I'm wondering why the ice chest? Just to pump hot air in and suck cold out, might as well use a cardboard box. You're not really that dumb, are you? What difference would it make? The function of an ice chest is to insulate. If you are pumping hot air into it, why would you need to insulate it? This unit works by pumping cold *water* through a heat exchanger, not air across ice. If you think different, show me the science. The science is basic- heat always moves to cold. The cooler is insulating the ice from absorbing heat from whatever it is resting on, thus saving the ice for where it can be used more efficiently- in the heat exchanger. Horse****!!! The science is cold is simply lack of heat. You are blowing the same exact air across the ice that the ice would be exposed to. If you are pumping 90 degree air into that cooler, what difference would it make whether or not the container was insulated??? Try it. Take a given amount of ice and put in a ice chest. Place another in a cardboard box. Blow the same exact amount of air into each, with the same exact equipment, and the same exact exhaust. Measure the temperature of the exhaust. Guess what? They'll be the same. You really are that dumb. |
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