Harry, Doug, Chuck, thunder, basssmootcher and you moderates who know
our country is better off with a neutered Bush and the spend and borrow
congress sent to pasture.

Perhaps we can now begin to repair our world relations, balance our
budget and restore some sanity to our country.

Thank God the country has come to its senses. My hat is off to the
framers for their foresight.

jps

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 00:31:35 -0800, jps wrote:

Harry, Doug, Chuck, thunder, basssmootcher and you moderates who know
our country is better off with a neutered Bush and the spend and borrow
congress sent to pasture.

Personally, I'm pleased with the results, but ... as I read the tea
leaves, this wave was against Bush, not necessarily for the Democrats. The
Democrats had better heed that.

One thing I found very encouraging were the exit polls that had corruption
very important in the eyes of the voter. While I consider this
administration the most corrupt in my lifetime, I wasn't sure other voters
saw it that way. Also, while I consider myself well to the left of
center, democracies should be run from the center. It was nice to see the
right wing get spanked. We can only hope the enlightenment will provide
for some true bipartisan effort.




Perhaps we can now begin to repair our world relations, balance our
budget and restore some sanity to our country.

Thank God the country has come to its senses. My hat is off to the
framers for their foresight.

jps

jps wrote:
Harry, Doug, Chuck, thunder, basssmootcher and you moderates who know
our country is better off with a neutered Bush and the spend and borrow
congress sent to pasture.

Perhaps we can now begin to repair our world relations, balance our
budget and restore some sanity to our country.

Pelosi claims that they have a good plan to do just that.

Thank God the country has come to its senses. My hat is off to the
framers for their foresight.

Amen brother!

Batten down the hatches. Even if Pelosi honors her pledge not to seek
impeachment (and she *should* honor the pledge and not drag the country
through that pointless, divisive mess again) we're about to redefine
ugly government. Woah.

The political animosity in this country during the next two years is
going to make the last 8 seem like church supper. Too damn bad. If each
side is so fricking "right" about all of these issues, you'd think we
could craft arguments that would stand on their own without all of the
emotional name calling and hysterical rhetoric. I see no evidence
that's the case, on either side, and I don't hold out much hope for
change anytime soon. Political discourse in this country assumes the
average American has a sixth grade education and an IQ of about 70. :-(

(This will be my sole political comment to rec.boats regarding the 2006
elections. My apologies to one and all for mounting the soap box......)

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

..

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
Batten down the hatches. Even if Pelosi honors her pledge not to seek
impeachment (and she *should* honor the pledge and not drag the country
through that pointless, divisive mess again) we're about to redefine
ugly government. Woah.

The political animosity in this country during the next two years is
going to make the last 8 seem like church supper. Too damn bad. If each
side is so fricking "right" about all of these issues, you'd think we
could craft arguments that would stand on their own without all of the
emotional name calling and hysterical rhetoric. I see no evidence
that's the case, on either side, and I don't hold out much hope for
change anytime soon. Political discourse in this country assumes the
average American has a sixth grade education and an IQ of about 70. :-(

(This will be my sole political comment to rec.boats regarding the 2006
elections. My apologies to one and all for mounting the soap box......)


I agree with you 100%. Politicians have set a new low bar.

Eisboch

On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:16:45 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

I agree with you 100%. Politicians have set a new low bar.

I agree but I also but don't think its entirely fair to blame only the
politicians. After all "we the people" are supposed to have some
involvement in this also, and not just on election day. If we
continue to accept some of this nonsense as politics as usual, without
also voting with our opinions and dollars, this polarization will
continue and it will undermine the democratic process.

Political moderates of all stripes need to make themselves heard, and
not just on rec.boats.

I agree with you 100%. Politicians have set a new low bar.


Wayne.B wrote:
I agree but I also but don't think its entirely fair to blame only the
politicians. After all "we the people" are supposed to have some
involvement in this also, and not just on election day.

Hear hear

.... If we
continue to accept some of this nonsense as politics as usual, without
also voting with our opinions and dollars, this polarization will
continue and it will undermine the democratic process.


Yep.... part of the reason why polarization & mud-slinging
has worked so well is that elections have hinged upon voter
apathy: when only small numbers of people bother to vote, a
targeted group of excitable whackos have disproportionate
influence.

*If* this election yesterday is the start of a new trend,
especially with more young people voting, then we *will* see
a big change in politics. About time, too!

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
...
I agree with you 100%. Politicians have set a new low bar.


Wayne.B wrote:
I agree but I also but don't think its entirely fair to blame only the
politicians. After all "we the people" are supposed to have some
involvement in this also, and not just on election day.

Hear hear

.... If we
continue to accept some of this nonsense as politics as usual, without
also voting with our opinions and dollars, this polarization will
continue and it will undermine the democratic process.


Yep.... part of the reason why polarization & mud-slinging has worked so
well is that elections have hinged upon voter apathy: when only small
numbers of people bother to vote, a targeted group of excitable whackos
have disproportionate influence.

*If* this election yesterday is the start of a new trend, especially with
more young people voting, then we *will* see a big change in politics.
About time, too!

DSK


I think both sides should look at the Pombo race. A very secure looking
seat, that got lost. People also vote their heart as well as the pocket
book, and if the Congress-elects do not pay attention to the message, they
will be tossed next cycle. At least we hope they will be tossed next cycle.
The electorate, says move to the middle.

On 8 Nov 2006 08:26:08 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

Batten down the hatches. Even if Pelosi honors her pledge not to seek
impeachment (and she *should* honor the pledge and not drag the country
through that pointless, divisive mess again) we're about to redefine
ugly government. Woah.

The political animosity in this country during the next two years is
going to make the last 8 seem like church supper. Too damn bad. If each
side is so fricking "right" about all of these issues, you'd think we
could craft arguments that would stand on their own without all of the
emotional name calling and hysterical rhetoric. I see no evidence
that's the case, on either side, and I don't hold out much hope for
change anytime soon. Political discourse in this country assumes the
average American has a sixth grade education and an IQ of about 70. :-(

(This will be my sole political comment to rec.boats regarding the 2006
elections. My apologies to one and all for mounting the soap box......)

Chuck, maybe the politicians are just normal people like us. Look how
little it takes here for a political discussion to turn to a ****-slinging,
name-calling flamefest.