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Bert Robbins wrote:
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That's the key - can they actually do something with nothing. Can
they keep the economic momentum moving in a positive direction,
can
they actually come up with a good plan to get us out of the mess
in
Iraq and I think even more importantly, can they actually emulate
the
Republicans and toe the party line without inter-party squabbling
they
are famous for.

More importantly than that is this - can they do it without
reducing
the economic power of the middle class by staying away from taxes
and
more entitlement programs.

It will be an interesting couple of years.



How many think that we will be sinking into a deep recession by
this time
next year?
Unfortunately, I do.

The recession has already started.

Then it's the republican's fault!!

BK, you haven't been paying attention. It's Clinton's fault. You have
to go back two terms to find the blame.

Ooops, I forgot!! Everything is Clinton's fault. I wonder how they'll
blame the fall of Rummy and the Bush administration on him.......

That's how Rs justify Clinton's success. Going back two terms puts you
in Reagan territory, savior of all mankind, but especially rich bankers
who robbed the American public blind.

What gets me is that the Republicans CLAIM to cut taxes. They don't.
They just shuffle money around to make it LOOK like they do. Take for
instance in GA. Up until Gov. Perdue took office, a Republican, we had
one of the best lottery for education purposes going. The HOPE
scholarship. Keep a B average in high school, you get first years
tuition and books paid to any in-state school. Keep a B average in
college, it continues. Worked VERY well.
When Perdue got into office, he almost INSTANTLY started putting his
slimey hands on the HOPE grants, and made new much more strict rules
and payment restrictions on it, using the money for other things.

Is the lottery a tax? You started out by mentioning taxes.

ACP wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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jps wrote:
In article . com,
says...

Bert Robbins wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
That's the key - can they actually do something with nothing. Can
they keep the economic momentum moving in a positive direction,
can
they actually come up with a good plan to get us out of the mess
in
Iraq and I think even more importantly, can they actually emulate
the
Republicans and toe the party line without inter-party squabbling
they
are famous for.

More importantly than that is this - can they do it without
reducing
the economic power of the middle class by staying away from taxes
and
more entitlement programs.

It will be an interesting couple of years.



How many think that we will be sinking into a deep recession by
this time
next year?
Unfortunately, I do.

The recession has already started.

Then it's the republican's fault!!

BK, you haven't been paying attention. It's Clinton's fault. You have
to go back two terms to find the blame.

Ooops, I forgot!! Everything is Clinton's fault. I wonder how they'll
blame the fall of Rummy and the Bush administration on him.......

That's how Rs justify Clinton's success. Going back two terms puts you
in Reagan territory, savior of all mankind, but especially rich bankers
who robbed the American public blind.

What gets me is that the Republicans CLAIM to cut taxes. They don't.
They just shuffle money around to make it LOOK like they do. Take for
instance in GA. Up until Gov. Perdue took office, a Republican, we had
one of the best lottery for education purposes going. The HOPE
scholarship. Keep a B average in high school, you get first years
tuition and books paid to any in-state school. Keep a B average in
college, it continues. Worked VERY well.
When Perdue got into office, he almost INSTANTLY started putting his
slimey hands on the HOPE grants, and made new much more strict rules
and payment restrictions on it, using the money for other things.

Is the lottery a tax? You started out by mentioning taxes.

Nope, never said it was. For the reading comprehension impaired, read
more than one sentence at a time. I said, the Republicans claim to cut
taxes. They don't they just shuffle money around to make it look like
they do. In the case above, some taxes were cut. Then the money from
HOPE was used in place of those taxes, weakening what the HOPE grant
was for. So, the GA Govt. wasn't spending less because of the tax cuts,
they were just stealing the money from the HOPE grant. SO, what will
happen to the people who were supposed to get the HOPE grant and can't?
Why, the GA govt. will give them different grants and loans. Where will
this money come from? Taxes. It's really pretty simple, I'm surprised
you don't understand it.

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...

"basskisser" wrote in message
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jps wrote:
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says...

Bert Robbins wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
That's the key - can they actually do something with nothing.
Can
they keep the economic momentum moving in a positive direction,
can
they actually come up with a good plan to get us out of the mess
in
Iraq and I think even more importantly, can they actually emulate
the
Republicans and toe the party line without inter-party squabbling
they
are famous for.

More importantly than that is this - can they do it without
reducing
the economic power of the middle class by staying away from taxes
and
more entitlement programs.

It will be an interesting couple of years.



How many think that we will be sinking into a deep recession by
this time
next year?
Unfortunately, I do.

The recession has already started.

Then it's the republican's fault!!

BK, you haven't been paying attention. It's Clinton's fault. You have
to go back two terms to find the blame.

Ooops, I forgot!! Everything is Clinton's fault. I wonder how they'll
blame the fall of Rummy and the Bush administration on him.......

That's how Rs justify Clinton's success. Going back two terms puts you
in Reagan territory, savior of all mankind, but especially rich bankers
who robbed the American public blind.

What gets me is that the Republicans CLAIM to cut taxes. They don't.
They just shuffle money around to make it LOOK like they do. Take for
instance in GA. Up until Gov. Perdue took office, a Republican, we had
one of the best lottery for education purposes going. The HOPE
scholarship. Keep a B average in high school, you get first years
tuition and books paid to any in-state school. Keep a B average in
college, it continues. Worked VERY well.
When Perdue got into office, he almost INSTANTLY started putting his
slimey hands on the HOPE grants, and made new much more strict rules
and payment restrictions on it, using the money for other things.

Is the lottery a tax? You started out by mentioning taxes.


LOL!

And the larger paychecks we saw because of less taxes being taken out were
just figments of our imagination according to him also. The paychecks may
have LOOKED larger but they really weren't. ;-)

That's *our* Bassy for you.

JimH wrote:
"ACP" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

jps wrote:
In article . com,
says...

Bert Robbins wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
That's the key - can they actually do something with nothing.
Can
they keep the economic momentum moving in a positive direction,
can
they actually come up with a good plan to get us out of the mess
in
Iraq and I think even more importantly, can they actually emulate
the
Republicans and toe the party line without inter-party squabbling
they
are famous for.

More importantly than that is this - can they do it without
reducing
the economic power of the middle class by staying away from taxes
and
more entitlement programs.

It will be an interesting couple of years.



How many think that we will be sinking into a deep recession by
this time
next year?
Unfortunately, I do.

The recession has already started.

Then it's the republican's fault!!

BK, you haven't been paying attention. It's Clinton's fault. You have
to go back two terms to find the blame.

Ooops, I forgot!! Everything is Clinton's fault. I wonder how they'll
blame the fall of Rummy and the Bush administration on him.......

That's how Rs justify Clinton's success. Going back two terms puts you
in Reagan territory, savior of all mankind, but especially rich bankers
who robbed the American public blind.

What gets me is that the Republicans CLAIM to cut taxes. They don't.
They just shuffle money around to make it LOOK like they do. Take for
instance in GA. Up until Gov. Perdue took office, a Republican, we had
one of the best lottery for education purposes going. The HOPE
scholarship. Keep a B average in high school, you get first years
tuition and books paid to any in-state school. Keep a B average in
college, it continues. Worked VERY well.
When Perdue got into office, he almost INSTANTLY started putting his
slimey hands on the HOPE grants, and made new much more strict rules
and payment restrictions on it, using the money for other things.

Is the lottery a tax? You started out by mentioning taxes.


LOL!

And the larger paychecks we saw because of less taxes being taken out were
just figments of our imagination according to him also. The paychecks may
have LOOKED larger but they really weren't. ;-)

That's *our* Bassy for you.

What an idiot. If you got a bigger paycheck because of tax cuts, but
spent more because of the the inflation that it caused, that's somehow
a good thing? What a dolt.

"basskisser" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"ACP" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

jps wrote:
In article . com,
says...

Bert Robbins wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
message
...
That's the key - can they actually do something with nothing.
Can
they keep the economic momentum moving in a positive
direction,
can
they actually come up with a good plan to get us out of the
mess
in
Iraq and I think even more importantly, can they actually
emulate
the
Republicans and toe the party line without inter-party
squabbling
they
are famous for.

More importantly than that is this - can they do it without
reducing
the economic power of the middle class by staying away from
taxes
and
more entitlement programs.

It will be an interesting couple of years.



How many think that we will be sinking into a deep recession by
this time
next year?
Unfortunately, I do.

The recession has already started.

Then it's the republican's fault!!

BK, you haven't been paying attention. It's Clinton's fault. You
have
to go back two terms to find the blame.

Ooops, I forgot!! Everything is Clinton's fault. I wonder how they'll
blame the fall of Rummy and the Bush administration on him.......

That's how Rs justify Clinton's success. Going back two terms puts
you
in Reagan territory, savior of all mankind, but especially rich
bankers
who robbed the American public blind.

What gets me is that the Republicans CLAIM to cut taxes. They don't.
They just shuffle money around to make it LOOK like they do. Take for
instance in GA. Up until Gov. Perdue took office, a Republican, we had
one of the best lottery for education purposes going. The HOPE
scholarship. Keep a B average in high school, you get first years
tuition and books paid to any in-state school. Keep a B average in
college, it continues. Worked VERY well.
When Perdue got into office, he almost INSTANTLY started putting his
slimey hands on the HOPE grants, and made new much more strict rules
and payment restrictions on it, using the money for other things.

Is the lottery a tax? You started out by mentioning taxes.


LOL!

And the larger paychecks we saw because of less taxes being taken out
were
just figments of our imagination according to him also. The paychecks may
have LOOKED larger but they really weren't. ;-)

That's *our* Bassy for you.

What an idiot. If you got a bigger paycheck because of tax cuts, but
spent more because of the the inflation that it caused, that's somehow
a good thing? What a dolt.

Hasn't inflation been pretty tame for a while now?

ACP wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"ACP" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

jps wrote:
In article . com,
says...

Bert Robbins wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
message
...
That's the key - can they actually do something with nothing.
Can
they keep the economic momentum moving in a positive
direction,
can
they actually come up with a good plan to get us out of the
mess
in
Iraq and I think even more importantly, can they actually
emulate
the
Republicans and toe the party line without inter-party
squabbling
they
are famous for.

More importantly than that is this - can they do it without
reducing
the economic power of the middle class by staying away from
taxes
and
more entitlement programs.

It will be an interesting couple of years.



How many think that we will be sinking into a deep recession by
this time
next year?
Unfortunately, I do.

The recession has already started.

Then it's the republican's fault!!

BK, you haven't been paying attention. It's Clinton's fault. You
have
to go back two terms to find the blame.

Ooops, I forgot!! Everything is Clinton's fault. I wonder how they'll
blame the fall of Rummy and the Bush administration on him.......

That's how Rs justify Clinton's success. Going back two terms puts
you
in Reagan territory, savior of all mankind, but especially rich
bankers
who robbed the American public blind.

What gets me is that the Republicans CLAIM to cut taxes. They don't.
They just shuffle money around to make it LOOK like they do. Take for
instance in GA. Up until Gov. Perdue took office, a Republican, we had
one of the best lottery for education purposes going. The HOPE
scholarship. Keep a B average in high school, you get first years
tuition and books paid to any in-state school. Keep a B average in
college, it continues. Worked VERY well.
When Perdue got into office, he almost INSTANTLY started putting his
slimey hands on the HOPE grants, and made new much more strict rules
and payment restrictions on it, using the money for other things.

Is the lottery a tax? You started out by mentioning taxes.


LOL!

And the larger paychecks we saw because of less taxes being taken out
were
just figments of our imagination according to him also. The paychecks may
have LOOKED larger but they really weren't. ;-)

That's *our* Bassy for you.

What an idiot. If you got a bigger paycheck because of tax cuts, but
spent more because of the the inflation that it caused, that's somehow
a good thing? What a dolt.

Hasn't inflation been pretty tame for a while now?

Tame compared to what? Everything is relative, you know. Did you ever
understand the lottery/taxes situation that is occuring here in GA?

basskisser wrote:
ACP wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...
JimH wrote:
"ACP" wrote in message
...
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...
jps wrote:
In article . com,
says...
Bert Robbins wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
message
...
That's the key - can they actually do something with nothing.
Can
they keep the economic momentum moving in a positive
direction,
can
they actually come up with a good plan to get us out of the
mess
in
Iraq and I think even more importantly, can they actually
emulate
the
Republicans and toe the party line without inter-party
squabbling
they
are famous for.

More importantly than that is this - can they do it without
reducing
the economic power of the middle class by staying away from
taxes
and
more entitlement programs.

It will be an interesting couple of years.


How many think that we will be sinking into a deep recession by
this time
next year?
Unfortunately, I do.
The recession has already started.
Then it's the republican's fault!!
BK, you haven't been paying attention. It's Clinton's fault. You
have
to go back two terms to find the blame.
Ooops, I forgot!! Everything is Clinton's fault. I wonder how they'll
blame the fall of Rummy and the Bush administration on him.......
That's how Rs justify Clinton's success. Going back two terms puts
you
in Reagan territory, savior of all mankind, but especially rich
bankers
who robbed the American public blind.

What gets me is that the Republicans CLAIM to cut taxes. They don't.
They just shuffle money around to make it LOOK like they do. Take for
instance in GA. Up until Gov. Perdue took office, a Republican, we had
one of the best lottery for education purposes going. The HOPE
scholarship. Keep a B average in high school, you get first years
tuition and books paid to any in-state school. Keep a B average in
college, it continues. Worked VERY well.
When Perdue got into office, he almost INSTANTLY started putting his
slimey hands on the HOPE grants, and made new much more strict rules
and payment restrictions on it, using the money for other things.
Is the lottery a tax? You started out by mentioning taxes.

LOL!

And the larger paychecks we saw because of less taxes being taken out
were
just figments of our imagination according to him also. The paychecks may
have LOOKED larger but they really weren't. ;-)

That's *our* Bassy for you.
What an idiot. If you got a bigger paycheck because of tax cuts, but
spent more because of the the inflation that it caused, that's somehow
a good thing? What a dolt.
Hasn't inflation been pretty tame for a while now?

Tame compared to what? Everything is relative, you know. Did you ever
understand the lottery/taxes situation that is occuring here in GA?


The GA Hope Scholarship still provides tuition to B students.

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
ACP wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...
JimH wrote:
"ACP" wrote in message
...
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...
jps wrote:
In article . com,
says...
Bert Robbins wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
message
...
That's the key - can they actually do something with nothing.
Can
they keep the economic momentum moving in a positive
direction,
can
they actually come up with a good plan to get us out of the
mess
in
Iraq and I think even more importantly, can they actually
emulate
the
Republicans and toe the party line without inter-party
squabbling
they
are famous for.

More importantly than that is this - can they do it without
reducing
the economic power of the middle class by staying away from
taxes
and
more entitlement programs.

It will be an interesting couple of years.


How many think that we will be sinking into a deep recession by
this time
next year?
Unfortunately, I do.
The recession has already started.
Then it's the republican's fault!!
BK, you haven't been paying attention. It's Clinton's fault. You
have
to go back two terms to find the blame.
Ooops, I forgot!! Everything is Clinton's fault. I wonder how they'll
blame the fall of Rummy and the Bush administration on him.......
That's how Rs justify Clinton's success. Going back two terms puts
you
in Reagan territory, savior of all mankind, but especially rich
bankers
who robbed the American public blind.

What gets me is that the Republicans CLAIM to cut taxes. They don't.
They just shuffle money around to make it LOOK like they do. Take for
instance in GA. Up until Gov. Perdue took office, a Republican, we had
one of the best lottery for education purposes going. The HOPE
scholarship. Keep a B average in high school, you get first years
tuition and books paid to any in-state school. Keep a B average in
college, it continues. Worked VERY well.
When Perdue got into office, he almost INSTANTLY started putting his
slimey hands on the HOPE grants, and made new much more strict rules
and payment restrictions on it, using the money for other things.
Is the lottery a tax? You started out by mentioning taxes.

LOL!

And the larger paychecks we saw because of less taxes being taken out
were
just figments of our imagination according to him also. The paychecks may
have LOOKED larger but they really weren't. ;-)

That's *our* Bassy for you.
What an idiot. If you got a bigger paycheck because of tax cuts, but
spent more because of the the inflation that it caused, that's somehow
a good thing? What a dolt.
Hasn't inflation been pretty tame for a while now?

Tame compared to what? Everything is relative, you know. Did you ever
understand the lottery/taxes situation that is occuring here in GA?


The GA Hope Scholarship still provides tuition to B students.

I didn't ever say that it didn't. What I said was a lot of the
programs, and benefits of the HOPE were cut. Now, if you want to know
more, ask. I live here and have students in the system. If you just
think you know what you are talking about and want to act like an
expert on the GA lottery and HOPE scholarship, go for it.

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
ACP wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...
JimH wrote:
"ACP" wrote in message
...
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...
jps wrote:
In article . com,
says...
Bert Robbins wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
message
...
That's the key - can they actually do something with nothing.
Can
they keep the economic momentum moving in a positive
direction,
can
they actually come up with a good plan to get us out of the
mess
in
Iraq and I think even more importantly, can they actually
emulate
the
Republicans and toe the party line without inter-party
squabbling
they
are famous for.

More importantly than that is this - can they do it without
reducing
the economic power of the middle class by staying away from
taxes
and
more entitlement programs.

It will be an interesting couple of years.


How many think that we will be sinking into a deep recession by
this time
next year?
Unfortunately, I do.
The recession has already started.
Then it's the republican's fault!!
BK, you haven't been paying attention. It's Clinton's fault. You
have
to go back two terms to find the blame.
Ooops, I forgot!! Everything is Clinton's fault. I wonder how they'll
blame the fall of Rummy and the Bush administration on him.......
That's how Rs justify Clinton's success. Going back two terms puts
you
in Reagan territory, savior of all mankind, but especially rich
bankers
who robbed the American public blind.

What gets me is that the Republicans CLAIM to cut taxes. They don't.
They just shuffle money around to make it LOOK like they do. Take for
instance in GA. Up until Gov. Perdue took office, a Republican, we had
one of the best lottery for education purposes going. The HOPE
scholarship. Keep a B average in high school, you get first years
tuition and books paid to any in-state school. Keep a B average in
college, it continues. Worked VERY well.
When Perdue got into office, he almost INSTANTLY started putting his
slimey hands on the HOPE grants, and made new much more strict rules
and payment restrictions on it, using the money for other things.
Is the lottery a tax? You started out by mentioning taxes.

LOL!

And the larger paychecks we saw because of less taxes being taken out
were
just figments of our imagination according to him also. The paychecks may
have LOOKED larger but they really weren't. ;-)

That's *our* Bassy for you.
What an idiot. If you got a bigger paycheck because of tax cuts, but
spent more because of the the inflation that it caused, that's somehow
a good thing? What a dolt.
Hasn't inflation been pretty tame for a while now?

Tame compared to what? Everything is relative, you know. Did you ever
understand the lottery/taxes situation that is occuring here in GA?


The GA Hope Scholarship still provides tuition to B students.

"The HOPE Scholarship is one of the most popular programs in Georgia
history. It has made an investment ofover $3 billion in scholarships
for over 900,000 Georgia students and has encouraged academic
achievement along the way. And for the first time, the best and
brightest of our students stay in Georgia for their college education
and then remain in Georgia to create new businesses.
And it was created by Democrats.

But some did not have the forward-thinking leadership to see the
promise of the HOPE scholarship. Gov. Sonny Perdue and Lt. Governor
candidate Ralph Reed fought the HOPE scholarship tooth and nail. State
Senator Perdue voted against HOPE at least 3 times over his career.1

In typical Gov. Perdue fashion, he is trying to rewrite his record on
HOPE. Now he supports it...or so he says. But he robbed HOPE of an
astonishing $1.7 million to pay for a website2 the Athens Banner-Herald
called "a campaign commercial." That was in 2005. But this is 2006, an
election year. So he wants you to think that he is a big HOPE
supporter. Gov. Perdue really hopes that you'll just forget about his
record.

Georgia has HOPE because Democrats had the vision to support education
in innovative ways. And Democrats have the vision to keep the promise
of HOPE permanent."

And that is just ONE instance.

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

The GA Hope Scholarship still provides tuition to B students.

More for your information:

September 2003 - Perdue pushes to tie HOPE to SAT scores, threatening
to cut the number of eligible students in half.
January 2004 - Perdue unilaterally cuts HOPE funds
May 2004 - Perdue backs efforts to retroactively limit HOPE benefits
February 2005 - Perdue raids HOPE funds for pet project