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[email protected] October 24th 06 01:43 AM

Wake Up And Smell The Invasion !!!!
 

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WAKE UP AND SMELL THE INVASION

By Frosty Wooldridge
October 23, 2006
NewsWithViews.com

http://www.newswithviews.com/Wooldridge/frosty199.htm

A report in the October 14, 2006 Rocky Mountain News makes a photo-point
on growing crime in Colorado, "On a break from her job at the Mercury
Cafe in
Denver, Megan Galloway sits outside a building on 20th Street that is
covered in graffiti. Mayor Hickenlooper says, 'Graffiti lets people
think it's OK to break the law and lets people think this is a lawless
community."

Hickenlooper pandered as the man who employed illegal alien Gomez-Garcia
who murdered Denver police officer Don Young. However, Hickenlooper
looks the other way while his city employs sanctuary policies that
encourage illegal aliens to remain in Denver. The bottom line is; it is
OK to hire and aid-and-abet illegal aliens, but it is not OK for
"artists" to create graffiti.

Meanwhile, Denver Public Schools stagger under the crush of 30,000
illegal alien students with violence, drugs, one out of five teachers
resigns every nine month teaching cycle, over a dozen foreign languages
and a 67 percent drop out/flunk out rate. Tuberculosis pops up in
Colorado with new cases in their schools. A similar scenario manifests
across America depending on the number of illegal aliens in each state.

Violent crime rained down on Denver in October. One illegal alien
dragged his girlfriend to death behind his car. Another illegal shot
another illegal at a job site. Yet another illegal shot-gunned his
girlfriend in the back because she wouldn't reconcile with him! Still
another illegal ran a stop sign a week ago. She crashed into a truck
killing her three children. Last year, in Greeley, Colorado with 70,000
residents, they logged 571 hit and run accidents. That city houses the
most illegal aliens in our state working at the meat packing plants.

Colorado reels from 300,000 illegal aliens. Citizens wake up each
morning to smell the invasion up close and personal. In California, it's
3,000,000 illegals with commensurate crime. The following is a
worst-case scenario of our society degrading into lawlessness.

I interviewed a retired physicist-engineer named Sam Flack who possesses
incredible investigative talents far beyond the experts. He digs into
population numbers that the U.S. government doesn't want you to know
about. With America's population exploding past 300 million this month,
Flack said, "From my research, these estimates are a worst-case reality
this country faces; we're in deep trouble already.

Growing levels of overcrowding, violence and poverty will mushroom
everywhere. You can't continue importing millions of people with fifth
grade educations in a foreign language from third world countries and
expect them to sustain our first world country.

They will create a new poor class within the United States--much like
what you see on the outskirts of Mexico City where millions live in
cardboard shacks."

"We now have 315 million residents in the United States," Flack said as
a matter of fact. "The U.S. Census Bureau intentionally understates the
population numbers to reduce criticism. If we exclude recent illegal
alien cohort growth, this base-number will grow by two percent annually.
By 2020 this "base-number" will be 365 million, based upon current legal
immigration rates and the family members they will sponsor for
naturalization and current birthrates. We already have a substantial
number of Hispanic-Latino citizens in the base number, and their
birthrate is 50 percent above the average. The percentages of Chinese,
Russian, and Muslim groups will also continue to rise."

"To continue the worst-case scenario," Flack said, "the illegal-alien
trend won't see any substantial restrictive pressures until 2010, at the
earliest, when it will be too late. If we continue "as is" in this
three-ring circus, the mostly Hispanic Latino "Illegal Alien Cohort
including their kids" of 40 million in September 2006 will double by
2012, double again by 2017. Meanwhile, some of us are lulled into false
hopes by the legislation in Hazleton, PA and Georgia, but those laws
impact less than one percent of the overall problem."

Flack says to reach the grand total you must add the aforementioned
"base number" to the illegal alien cohort
number. The rate accelerates as more and more "new citizens" sponsor
more and more of their extended family for naturalized citizenship. For
those skeptics who doubt these numbers, do the calculations yourself.

IMPACTS: Major social-services and key pieces of the infrastructure will
fail including social security, medical, education, prisons-jails,
highways, waste-treatment, drinking-water, etc., as the burgeoning
population is not accompanied by sufficient increases in national
income. The U.S. Gross National Product will tumble as China becomes the
dominant international market force.

According to Congressman Steve King, Iowa, there is another problem.
Seven percent of the illegal alien cohort is made up of seasoned
criminals, and this behavioral fraction carries into the
"instant-citizens" born to illegal alien parents. Due to the customs and
habits of folks that come from a lawless country like Mexico, in 2005,
9,125 U.S. residents were killed by illegal aliens; 48 percent by the
use of knives and guns, and 52 percent by reckless operation of motor
vehicles. This carnage is predicted to grow at the same rate as the
illegal alien cohort; 17 percent per year.

"Unless something changes, and the Executive Branch of our government
orders more accurate enumeration by the Census Bureau, the illegal alien
cohort will continue to be under-counted by a factor of three," Flack
said. "For example, the Census Bureau is telling us that we have 10-12
million. Bear-Stearns Report showed no less than 20 million illegals.
Similar reports such as the one at Vanderbilt University showed 28
million."
Nobody argues the fact that illegals are wily, and tend to disappear
when the feds come around to do the census. Based upon "business as
usual," we can expect that the Democrats will require the U.S. Census
Bureau to continue to "count heads," no matter their nationality and to
intentionally under-count whenever possible; the lower the numbers, the
less criticism.

Nonetheless, the illegal alien population invasion juggernaut advances
into American society. "In the year 2010-15, the Hispanic-Latino
cohort, which includes illegal aliens, will become dominant populations
in the states of California, Florida, Illinois, Arizona, New Mexico, and
Texas," Flack said.

"While 100 hospitals have closed by 2006, 2,000 more will close by 2010,
all bankrupt. All schools will be overcrowded, on year-around schedules,
and academic success will be less than half of what it was in 2004.
Restricted private proprietary schools and hospitals will appear to take
care of the upper-class, with armed-guards at the doors. Murders in all
other schools will be commonplace."
"By 2015-20, the Hispanic-Latino cohort will also dominate the states of
Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Nevada, Utah, Colorado, Louisiana, Alabama,
Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Mississippi, New York, and
perhaps a few more," Flack said. "The rich and upper-class will be
insulated, just as it is in Mexico in 2006."

What can we do in 2006 to halt this invasion and change our future?
Flack said, "The better alternative is for our citizens to demand that
our government find its backbone to immediately take control of all of
our international borders, build temporary tent-city criminal-alien
incarceration facilities near the southern border, quash the scam of
overstaying visitor-visas at two million annually, pass a law to clarify
and reinterpret the 14th Amendment which gives us 1.2 million
"instant-citizens" in 2006, crackdown on employers with jail terms,
appoint a U.S. Immigration CEO and adopt a concise U S Immigration
Strategic Plan to only bring in limited numbers of certain targeted
skilled-workers in the interim while rapidly creating a
training-education program to grow our own skilled workers to meet
future needs."

"If not," Flack said, "Thus rendered rudderless, our ship of state will
founder with increasing speed. The prevailing leadership will deny this
is happening."

U.S. Illegal Immigration Population Trends; 2006 - 2010 "The
handwriting is on the wall," Flack said. "The overall ineptitude, plus
"the appearance of ineptitude-contamination" of the Republicans in
elected office is telling. The trend toward more control of illegal
aliens will be reversed at all levels."

Flack predicts democrats will take control of the U.S. House and Senate,
and most similar state legislative bodies in the November 2006 election.
The limited number of Republican governors that remain will be rendered
impotent. The Democrats will elect their candidate for the Presidency in
2008. During the 2006-2010 period, the Democrats will orchestrate
leniency for the illegal aliens already here, and will continue to
advocate for open borders.

The Department of Homeland Security will be left to rot from the
inside-out.
Enforcement against errant employers will also be stalled, and many
state laws enacted to control aliens will be revoked.
"During 2006-2008, the President and the Democrats will work as a team
to implement a substantial Guest-Worker program, which includes family
accompanying most women of age 15-35, to include teen-daughters, who
will birth "instant-citizen" babies in the U.S. every third year," Flack
said.

"The U.S. Democratic politicos will also work as a team to create a
"path to citizenship" for the illegal aliens already here, and the
new-future arrivals will be automatically included. In addition, the
Democrats will find a way to give the illegals the "right-to-vote" as
soon as possible.

The new citizens will immediately commence to sponsor their family
members for naturalization; each will successfully sponsor seven in the
ten years after they become citizens.

The implementation date of each piece of the resurrected

Kennedy-Specter-McCain-Reid-Pelosi "2007 Comprehensive-Omnibus
Undocumented Immigrants Salvation Bill" will determine how many aliens
are given amnesty. Brace yourself. Again, the growth-rate for the
"illegal-alien cohort" is now 17 percent annually. That rate will
increase as the "citizenship-opportunity" word spreads to Mexico and
beyond. If nothing changes substantially in the next few years, here are
those projected numbers:

As of September 2004, there were 20 million illegals, plus their nine
million kids here. (Seven million of those kids are "Instant-citizens.")
These are Bear-Stearns numbers.

As of September 2005, there were 23 million illegals, plus their 11
million kids here. (Eight million of those kids are "Instant-citizens.")

As of September 2006, there were 27 million illegals, plus their 13
million kids here. (Nine million of those kids are "Instant-citizens.")

As of September 2007, there will be 32 million illegals, plus their 15
million kids here. (11 million of those kids are "Instant-citizens.")

As of September 2008, there will be 37 million illegals, plus their 17
million kids here. (12 million of those kids are "Instant-citizens.")

As of September 2009, there will be 44 million illegals, plus their 20
million kids here. (14 million of those kids are "Instant-citizens.")

As of September 2010, there will be 51 million illegals, plus their 23
million kids here. (17 million of those kids are "Instant-citizens.")

If you remember in 1986, official government reports showed 1.3 million
illegal aliens would gain citizenship with the Reagan amnesty. Actual
figures showed 3.4 million gained citizenship, which is almost a factor
of three times more than the estimate. Today, official reports tell us
11-12 million illegal aliens inhabit our country. Flack's figures,
according to Bear-Stearns, stand up to demographic tests. We suffer at
least two and possibly three times more illegals than presented by
government figures.

If you examine anything this president and Congress tell us today, you
witness nothing but lies about Iraq, lies about weapons of mass
destruction, lies about 9/11, cover-up on the Jack Abramoff affair,
massive fraud on H-1B and H-2B visas, fraud of the guest worker programs
and federal debt under reporting.

In the meantime, no matter what the worst-case scenario might be, our
country explodes with a "least-case" scenario of 100 million added
people caused by legal and illegal immigration by 2040. That's the
bare-bones minimum. With Flack's research, those numbers grow into scary
population nightmares. No matter how you cut it, that creates a
worst-case reality facing all Americans.

As we wake up to this accelerating invasion-and continue to do
nothing-our children and all of us suffer a "worst-case" future.


Does the public not understand the environmental impact of immigration?

ted


F. George McDuffee October 24th 06 01:56 AM

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Changed to OT: subject

On 23 Oct 2006 17:43:56 -0700, wrote:

Does the public not understand the environmental impact of immigration?


It makes no difference what the public does or does not
understand. The flood of illegal immigrants provides an
extreamly profitable pool of labor, both to actually perform a
job and "threat labor" to replace the existing residents if they
get "uppity" and start asking for more money, refusing to work
through their breaks and off the clock, etc.

As long as the people that make the money also make the rules
nothing is going to change. Have another beer.
Unka' George (George McDuffee)
...............................
Only in Britain could it be thought
a defect to be "too clever by half."
The probability is that too many people
are too stupid by three-quarters.

John Major (b. 1943),
British Conservative politician, prime minister.
Quoted in: Observer (London, 7 July 1991).

Adam Beneschan October 24th 06 02:00 AM

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Our newsgroups are being invaded by inconsiderate spammers. I
certainly don't like the smell of that.


batw October 24th 06 02:13 AM

Wake Up And Smell The Invasion !!!!
 
Ted very good read unfortunatly our good citizens care only that the
refrigerator has beer in it, and the t.v. works this country will be a 3rd.
world citizenry soon batw
wrote in message
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Adam Beneschan October 24th 06 03:07 AM

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Lorne October 24th 06 12:54 PM

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"Adam Beneschan" wrote in message
oups.com...
Our newsgroups are being invaded by inconsiderate spammers. I
certainly don't like the smell of that.


Depends how you access the group. My ISP filters spam so as long as I
access it through a newsreader I get very little. I just scanned back
through old messages and the last spam that I got was on 27th September. and
there was only one other back to 1st September.




Clark Magnuson October 24th 06 03:57 PM

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Things could be worse, they could be legal and violent aliens, like the
ones in Paris.

The illegals we have just want to get some bucks and go home rich.
Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.


--
For choosing to fight, one gets the horrors or war, stress, and possibly
death.
For choosing not to fight, one gets subjugation, humiliation, and
possibly death.
Choose your fights carefully.

JoeSpareBedroom October 24th 06 04:23 PM

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"Clark Magnuson" wrote in message
...
Things could be worse, they could be legal and violent aliens, like the
ones in Paris.

The illegals we have just want to get some bucks and go home rich.
Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.


I could be mistaken, but that's what I want, too, and although my friends
know I'm an alien of sorts, I am legal.



Gunner October 24th 06 04:45 PM

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On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:57:50 -0700, Clark Magnuson
wrote:

Things could be worse, they could be legal and violent aliens, like the
ones in Paris.

The illegals we have just want to get some bucks and go home rich.
Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.


Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20 and
25% of our prison and jail populations.

Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner



"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

JoeSpareBedroom October 24th 06 04:46 PM

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"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:57:50 -0700, Clark Magnuson
wrote:

Things could be worse, they could be legal and violent aliens, like the
ones in Paris.

The illegals we have just want to get some bucks and go home rich.
Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.


Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20 and
25% of our prison and jail populations.

Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner


So, they're just like everyone else.



JoeSpareBedroom October 24th 06 05:07 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:23:16 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Clark Magnuson" wrote in message
...
Things could be worse, they could be legal and violent aliens, like the
ones in Paris.

The illegals we have just want to get some bucks and go home rich.
Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.


I could be mistaken, but that's what I want, too, and although my friends
know I'm an alien of sorts, I am legal.


Real alien? As in from outer space?

It would explain a lot. :)
--


Me? You hang out with 4-legged things from another galaxy, and try to
maintain the outward appearance that everything's normal. What are those
animals really plotting?



JohnH October 24th 06 06:04 PM

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On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:46:52 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:57:50 -0700, Clark Magnuson
wrote:

Things could be worse, they could be legal and violent aliens, like the
ones in Paris.

The illegals we have just want to get some bucks and go home rich.
Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.


Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20 and
25% of our prison and jail populations.

Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner


So, they're just like everyone else.


Speak for yourself! :)

rigger October 24th 06 06:43 PM

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Clark Magnuson wrote:
Things could be worse, they could be legal and violent aliens, like the
ones in Paris.

The illegals we have just want to get some bucks and go home rich.
Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.


--
For choosing to fight, one gets the horrors or war, stress, and possibly
death.
For choosing not to fight, one gets subjugation, humiliation, and
possibly death.
Choose your fights carefully.


The illegals we have just want to get some bucks and go home rich.
Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.


To bad they all cheat, lie, steal, and break numerous other laws to get
what they want while depleting the social services of our country while
they do it.

dennis
in nca


Gunner October 25th 06 12:18 AM

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On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:46:52 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:57:50 -0700, Clark Magnuson
wrote:

Things could be worse, they could be legal and violent aliens, like the
ones in Paris.

The illegals we have just want to get some bucks and go home rich.
Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.


Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20 and
25% of our prison and jail populations.

Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner


So, they're just like everyone else.

Are those your desires? Not mine.

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

JoeSpareBedroom October 25th 06 12:43 AM

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"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:46:52 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:57:50 -0700, Clark Magnuson
wrote:

Things could be worse, they could be legal and violent aliens, like the
ones in Paris.

The illegals we have just want to get some bucks and go home rich.
Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.

Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20 and
25% of our prison and jail populations.

Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner


So, they're just like everyone else.

Are those your desires? Not mine.

Gunner


Clarification: A given percentage of any population will share certain
characteristics. Certain dolts want to believe that illegal immigrants are
made up of a higher percentage of *****VIOLENT CRIMINALS*****. These dolts
have no information to back this up. But, in this way, this sample
population is the same as any other.



Douglas W. \Popeye\ Frederick October 25th 06 01:15 AM

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"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:46:52 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:57:50 -0700, Clark Magnuson
wrote:

Things could be worse, they could be legal and violent aliens, like the
ones in Paris.

The illegals we have just want to get some bucks and go home rich.
Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.

Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20 and
25% of our prison and jail populations.

Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner


So, they're just like everyone else.

Are those your desires? Not mine.

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"


We can tell from your screen name and signature.




--
Popeye
It was when Lucifer first congratulated
himself upon his angelic behavior that he
became the tool of evil. -Hammarskjöld
www.finalprotectivefire.com




Forge October 25th 06 02:51 AM

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In article .com,
"rigger" wrote:

To bad they all cheat, lie, steal, and break numerous other laws to get
what they want while depleting the social services of our country while
they do it.


Mm, yes, they're all just a bunch of ne'er-do-well brigands and thieves.

Um, except they're utterly ****ing not. Statistically they break laws
other than "you're not supposed to live here" just a tiny hair more than
people who were born here. Sorry.

Adam Beneschan October 25th 06 03:06 AM

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Forge wrote:
In article .com,
"rigger" wrote:

To bad they all cheat, lie, steal, and break numerous other laws to get
what they want while depleting the social services of our country while
they do it.


Mm, yes, they're all just a bunch of ne'er-do-well brigands and thieves.

Um, except they're utterly f@#$ing not. Statistically they break laws
other than "you're not supposed to live here" just a tiny hair more than
people who were born here. Sorry.


No, the correct answer is to bid 3NT with this. Since you have KJx
opposite dummy's assumed singleton, it's unlikely that you're going to
get any extra tricks by ruffing, so since this is matchpoints, I'd go
for the higher score. At IMPs, 4S is clear, because of the (small)
chance that at 3NT they can set up and run this suit.


Douglas W. \Popeye\ Frederick October 25th 06 03:28 AM

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"Forge" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
"rigger" wrote:

To bad they all cheat, lie, steal, and break numerous other laws to get
what they want while depleting the social services of our country while
they do it.


Mm, yes, they're all just a bunch of ne'er-do-well brigands and thieves.

Um, except they're utterly ****ing not. Statistically they break laws
other than "you're not supposed to live here" just a tiny hair more than
people who were born here. Sorry.


Which, if you factor in an average economic class comparison, probably
makes them generally more law-abiding over-all.



Gunner October 25th 06 03:44 AM

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On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:43:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.

Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20 and
25% of our prison and jail populations.

Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner

So, they're just like everyone else.

Are those your desires? Not mine.

Gunner


Clarification: A given percentage of any population will share certain
characteristics. Certain dolts want to believe that illegal immigrants are
made up of a higher percentage of *****VIOLENT CRIMINALS*****. These dolts
have no information to back this up. But, in this way, this sample
population is the same as any other.


On the other hand..certain other dolts think that those criminals who
have violated our laws by simply being here..and who use the border as
a get out of jail free card..are equally as violent as the US
population. Which is not true.

Tell you what..how about providing cites to your claim that illegals
are as violent as citizens. Say..per hundred thousand?

Ill be waiting for your cites. With my own, both from the DOJ, the FBI
and the Border Patrol , not to mention LA and San Diego Counties.

Whenever you are ready..prove your claim.

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

Gunner October 25th 06 03:45 AM

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On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:15:31 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:46:52 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:57:50 -0700, Clark Magnuson
wrote:

Things could be worse, they could be legal and violent aliens, like the
ones in Paris.

The illegals we have just want to get some bucks and go home rich.
Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.

Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20 and
25% of our prison and jail populations.

Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner

So, they're just like everyone else.

Are those your desires? Not mine.

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"


We can tell from your screen name and signature.


Really? Gunner Asch and Rule #35?

Fascinating. Please provide how you arrived at that.

It will be interesting reading

Gunner Asch

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

Douglas W. \Popeye\ Frederick October 25th 06 04:31 AM

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"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:15:31 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
wrote:


Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner

So, they're just like everyone else.

Are those your desires? Not mine.


We can tell from your screen name and signature.


Really? Gunner Asch and Rule #35?


No, "Gunner" and "Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge
tactical error"

Fascinating. Please provide how you arrived at that.


By the shortest possible distance, as always.

It will be interesting reading


My posts always are.

Gunner:

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Jeff R. October 25th 06 05:19 AM

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"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" wrote in
message

-noun 1. a person who operates a gun or cannon.
2. Army. an occupational title in the artillery.
3. Navy. a person skilled in handling ammunition and gunnery equipment.
4. Marine Corps. a warrant officer who may be given any one of a number of
assignments.
5. British. a. Military. a private in the artillery.
b. Informal. any officer or enlisted person assigned to the artillery.

6. a person who hunts with a gun.



7. A character from literature. e.g. "Popeye"




[email protected] October 25th 06 05:23 AM

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Jeff R. wrote:

7. A character from literature. e.g. "Popeye"


Popeye was a gunner?


Douglas W. \Popeye\ Frederick October 25th 06 05:36 AM

OT: Wake Up And Smell The Invasion !!!!
 

"Jeff R." wrote in message
u...

"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" wrote in
message

-noun 1. a person who operates a gun or cannon.
2. Army. an occupational title in the artillery.
3. Navy. a person skilled in handling ammunition and gunnery equipment.
4. Marine Corps. a warrant officer who may be given any one of a number
of assignments.
5. British. a. Military. a private in the artillery.
b. Informal. any officer or enlisted person assigned to the artillery.

6. a person who hunts with a gun.


7. A character from literature. e.g. "Popeye"


:-)

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I25015A0E

http://makeashorterlink.com/?X16063A0E




--
Popeye
It was when Lucifer first congratulated
himself upon his angelic behavior that he
became the tool of evil. -Hammarskjöld
www.finalprotectivefire.com



Forge October 25th 06 10:35 AM

OT: Wake Up And Smell The Invasion !!!!
 
In article ,
"Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
wrote:

Um, except they're utterly ****ing not. Statistically they break laws
other than "you're not supposed to live here" just a tiny hair more than
people who were born here. Sorry.


Which, if you factor in an average economic class comparison, probably
makes them generally more law-abiding over-all.


Yup, I mean think about it - you're here illegally and you've got a job
and an okay place to live and you're Western Unioning a few hundred a
week back home to Mom and Pop... so whyinhell you gonna f*ck up a good
thing by breaking any other laws??? That'd just be STUPID. And this may
come off as a dumb thing to say but most immigrants? Not stupid.

Those few who come here TO commit crimes, sell dope, hold up liquor
stores - I got no objections, ship 'em back and let 'em rot in those
charming Mexican prisons. But that's a tiny fraction of the number of
Gringos that seem to think living on welfare and selling crack are THEIR
only purpose in life.

Gunner October 25th 06 11:28 AM

OT: Wake Up And Smell The Invasion !!!!
 
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:31:24 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:15:31 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
wrote:


Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner

So, they're just like everyone else.

Are those your desires? Not mine.


We can tell from your screen name and signature.


Really? Gunner Asch and Rule #35?


No, "Gunner" and "Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge
tactical error"

Fascinating. Please provide how you arrived at that.


By the shortest possible distance, as always.

It will be interesting reading


My posts always are.

Gunner:

4 results for: gunner
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Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1) - Cite This Source
gun?ner /'g?n?r/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[guhn-er]
Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation

-noun 1. a person who operates a gun or cannon.
2. Army. an occupational title in the artillery.
3. Navy. a person skilled in handling ammunition and gunnery equipment.
4. Marine Corps. a warrant officer who may be given any one of a number of
assignments.
5. British. a. Military. a private in the artillery.
b. Informal. any officer or enlisted person assigned to the artillery.

6. a person who hunts with a gun.

-Related forms
gun?ner?ship, noun
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.
American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source gun·ner (gnr) Pronunciation
Key
n.
A member of the armed forces who operates a gun.
A warrant officer in the U.S. Marine Corps having charge of ordnance.
Chiefly British. An artillery soldier, especially a private.
One who hunts with a gun.

Clearly you refer to yourself in reality or fantasy as someone with a
professional knowledge of the employment of weapons.

Anyone who chooses that name for a screen name, like your signature
statement, is making a Freudian statement of some kind.


Hummmm so guns = steel penis?

"Asch"? Kirst, I suppose, whatever, but it wasn't in your last post, so
don't try to slip it in, or bother referring to it now.


Gosh Mr. ****tard..do you Always sign your informal correspondence
with your full name?

Fascinating. Though all readers of my posts over the years know full
well I sign both Gunner and Gunner Asch.

Yes..I do have a working and professional knowledge of many types of
arms. I also use the nym Gunner Asch (Herbert) as someone close to my
outlook on the world. Thirdly..Ive been called Gunner for nearly 30
yrs in the real world. Not a nick I picked for myself,..it was
presented to me by those whom I respect. At one time..my working
"nick" was Shiva..but only while working. You remember Shiva dontcha?
That smiling fella out of the Hindu (and others) pantheon.

"Rule #35 That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error"
clearly implies involvement with, and the use of, retaliatory deadly force,
and, it's what you choose from infinity to be recognized by as a
correspondence signature.

So -again- I say, not that we can tell by your chosen screen name or
signature file.


Evidently not. Seems you got virtually everything wrong, except the
cut and pastes. But even you couldnt **** those up too badly.

Perhaps you may find the following sigs more to your liking? Which one
should I keep running for a while:

"[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do
so would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their
methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of
regaining power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well
please. The problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long
that, as a group, they themselves are no longer sure of their goals.
They are a collection of wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a
grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some want a Socialist, secular-humanist
state, others the repeal of the Second Amendment. Some want same
sex/different species marriage, others want voting
rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care
and complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a
culture that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of
political correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same
way I view the competing factions of Islamic fundamentalists. The
latter hate each other to the core, and only join
forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the
core, and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives."
--Ron Marr


Or perhaps...

--
The other day I was talking with a Democrat friend about the election.
She'd remarked, with equal amounts of sarcasm and good-natured
ribbing, that the GOP had two years to build utopia. I thought about
that later while walking Jasper around the block, and thought, no;
they're not about building utopia. Personally, I'm interested in
keeping other people from building Utopia, because the more your
believe you can create heaven on earth the more likely you are to set
up guillotines in the public square to hasten the process.
- James Lileks

or how about:

"Get ****ed.

/´¯/)
,/¯ /
/ /
/´¯/' '/´¯¯`·¸
/'/ / / /¨¯\
('( ´ ´ ¯~/' ')
\ ' ~ /
'' \ _ ·´
\ (
\ \
Laugh laugh laugh

Gunner


Gunner October 25th 06 11:30 AM

OT: Wake Up And Smell The Invasion !!!!
 
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:28:48 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
wrote:

"Forge" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
"rigger" wrote:

To bad they all cheat, lie, steal, and break numerous other laws to get
what they want while depleting the social services of our country while
they do it.


Mm, yes, they're all just a bunch of ne'er-do-well brigands and thieves.

Um, except they're utterly ****ing not. Statistically they break laws
other than "you're not supposed to live here" just a tiny hair more than
people who were born here. Sorry.


Which, if you factor in an average economic class comparison, probably
makes them generally more law-abiding over-all.

Im still waiting for those cites to prove the claims of the pro
illegals.

Still waiting.

More waiting....


Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

Gunner October 25th 06 11:59 AM

OT: Wake Up And Smell The Invasion !!!!
 
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:28:10 GMT, Gunner
wrote:


"Rule #35 That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error"
clearly implies involvement with, and the use of, retaliatory deadly force,
and, it's what you choose from infinity to be recognized by as a
correspondence signature.

So -again- I say, not that we can tell by your chosen screen name or
signature file.


"Rule #35 That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error"
clearly implies involvement with, and the use of, retaliatory deadly force,
and, it's what you choose from infinity to be recognized by as a
correspondence signature.

So -again- I say, not that we can tell by your chosen screen name or
signature file.

X-Signatu Lewis

""The greatest evil is conceived and ordered (moved,
seconded, carried and minuted) in clean, carpeted,
warmed and well-lighted offices...like the bureaucracy
of a police state or a thoroughly nasty business
concern." C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters . X
-Signatu Greek

"**** your parliament and your constitution. America
is an elephant, Cyprus is a flea. If these two fellows
continue itching the elephant, they may just get whacked
by the elephant's trunk, whacked good.... If your prime
minster gives me talk about democracy, parliament and
constitution, he, his parliament, and his constitution,
may not last very long." ~L.B.J. to the Greek
Ambassador, or so the rumor goes... . X-Signatu
ignoramus

"I admit that I am often wrong." Ignoramous-MS-
5/6/2004 . X-Signatu Demkillers

"Republicans Don't Kill People: Democrats Kill
People"

Tony Prentakis . X-Signatu English

-- The problem with defending the purity of the
English language is that English is about as pure as a
cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on
occasion, English has pursued other languages down
alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their
pockets for new vocabulary. --James D. Nicoll . X
-Signatu Lies

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

Douglas W. \Popeye\ Frederick October 25th 06 12:48 PM

OT: Wake Up And Smell The Invasion !!!!
 
"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:31:24 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
wrote:


Hummmm so guns = steel penis?


Now -that- that Freudian.

"Asch"? Kirst, I suppose, whatever, but it wasn't in your last post, so
don't try to slip it in, or bother referring to it now.


Gosh Mr. ****tard..do you Always sign your informal correspondence
with your full name?


Hmmmm, let me look at the top of the screen.

Yup, for about 21,000 posts now.

Fascinating. Though all readers of my posts over the years know full
well I sign both Gunner and Gunner Asch.


If you want a parallel drawn to Gunner Asch, sign Gunner Asch,
....****tard.

You're nobody in this newsgroup.

Yes..I do have a working and professional knowledge of many types of
arms. I also use the nym Gunner Asch (Herbert) as someone close to my
outlook on the world. Thirdly..Ive been called Gunner for nearly 30
yrs in the real world. Not a nick I picked for myself,..it was
presented to me by those whom I respect. At one time..my working
"nick" was Shiva..but only while working. You remember Shiva dontcha?
That smiling fella out of the Hindu (and others) pantheon.

"Rule #35 That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error"
clearly implies involvement with, and the use of, retaliatory deadly
force,
and, it's what you choose from infinity to be recognized by as a
correspondence signature.

So -again- I say, not that we can tell by your chosen screen name or
signature file.


Evidently not. Seems you got virtually everything wrong, except the
cut and pastes. But even you couldnt **** those up too badly.

Perhaps you may find the following sigs more to your liking? Which one
should I keep running for a while:


Talk about ****ing things up- I'm a Joe McCarthy Republican, somewhat to
the right of Genghis Khan politically and militarily.

While I do have Libertarian leanings in personal choice categories, I
don't think the explosives we manufacture should be allowed to cool before
we drop them on someone else's "civilization".

Run along, -boy-, and stick to cut-n-paste.

"[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do
so would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their
methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of
regaining power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well
please. The problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long
that, as a group, they themselves are no longer sure of their goals.
They are a collection of wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a
grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some want a Socialist, secular-humanist
state, others the repeal of the Second Amendment. Some want same
sex/different species marriage, others want voting
rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care
and complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a
culture that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of
political correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same
way I view the competing factions of Islamic fundamentalists. The
latter hate each other to the core, and only join
forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the
core, and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives."
--Ron Marr


Or perhaps...

--
The other day I was talking with a Democrat friend about the election.
She'd remarked, with equal amounts of sarcasm and good-natured
ribbing, that the GOP had two years to build utopia. I thought about
that later while walking Jasper around the block, and thought, no;
they're not about building utopia. Personally, I'm interested in
keeping other people from building Utopia, because the more your
believe you can create heaven on earth the more likely you are to set
up guillotines in the public square to hasten the process.
- James Lileks

or how about:

"Get ****ed.

/´¯/)
,/¯ /
/ /
/´¯/' '/´¯¯`·¸
/'/ / / /¨¯\
('( ´ ´ ¯~/' ')
\ ' ~ /
'' \ _ ·´
\ (
\ \
Laugh laugh laugh

Gunner




Douglas W. \Popeye\ Frederick October 25th 06 12:52 PM

OT: Wake Up And Smell The Invasion !!!!
 
"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:28:48 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
wrote:

"Forge" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
"rigger" wrote:

To bad they all cheat, lie, steal, and break numerous other laws to get
what they want while depleting the social services of our country while
they do it.

Mm, yes, they're all just a bunch of ne'er-do-well brigands and thieves.

Um, except they're utterly ****ing not. Statistically they break laws
other than "you're not supposed to live here" just a tiny hair more than
people who were born here. Sorry.


Which, if you factor in an average economic class comparison, probably
makes them generally more law-abiding over-all.

Im still waiting for those cites to prove the claims of the pro
illegals.

Still waiting.

More waiting....


We'll be right along.

Would you mind holding your breath till we get there?

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"




JoeSpareBedroom October 25th 06 12:53 PM

OT: Wake Up And Smell The Invasion !!!!
 
"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:43:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.

Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20 and
25% of our prison and jail populations.

Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner

So, they're just like everyone else.

Are those your desires? Not mine.

Gunner


Clarification: A given percentage of any population will share certain
characteristics. Certain dolts want to believe that illegal immigrants are
made up of a higher percentage of *****VIOLENT CRIMINALS*****. These dolts
have no information to back this up. But, in this way, this sample
population is the same as any other.


On the other hand..certain other dolts think that those criminals who
have violated our laws by simply being here..and who use the border as
a get out of jail free card..are equally as violent as the US
population. Which is not true.

Tell you what..how about providing cites to your claim that illegals
are as violent as citizens. Say..per hundred thousand?

Ill be waiting for your cites. With my own, both from the DOJ, the FBI
and the Border Patrol , not to mention LA and San Diego Counties.

Whenever you are ready..prove your claim.



Your sources won't address the characteristic I'm referring to, which can be
observed in early childhood. It's biological and not related to good/bad
parenting, nor is it related to nationality. Some kids are edgy, and require
just a little more attention. For some reason, they don't "socialize" in
quite the same way as others. It's theorized that without special attention,
they ***MAY*** be predisposed to violence later in life. Here (NY), some of
them end up at BOCES for a while. In other states or countries, I have no
idea what happens to them.

If you'd like to know more about this, pick up your telephone, call your
local elementary school, and ask to speak to one of the special ed teachers.



JohnH October 25th 06 01:26 PM

OT: Wake Up And Smell The Invasion !!!!
 
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 06:48:05 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 10/25/2006 6:28 AM, Gunner wrote:
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:31:24 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:15:31 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
wrote:
Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner
So, they're just like everyone else.

Are those your desires? Not mine.
We can tell from your screen name and signature.
Really? Gunner Asch and Rule #35?
No, "Gunner" and "Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge
tactical error"

Fascinating. Please provide how you arrived at that.
By the shortest possible distance, as always.

It will be interesting reading
My posts always are.

Gunner:

4 results for: gunner
View results from: Dictionary | Thesaurus | Encyclopedia | the Web

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1) - Cite This Source
gun?ner /'g?n?r/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[guhn-er]
Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation

-noun 1. a person who operates a gun or cannon.
2. Army. an occupational title in the artillery.
3. Navy. a person skilled in handling ammunition and gunnery equipment.
4. Marine Corps. a warrant officer who may be given any one of a number of
assignments.
5. British. a. Military. a private in the artillery.
b. Informal. any officer or enlisted person assigned to the artillery.

6. a person who hunts with a gun.

-Related forms
gun?ner?ship, noun
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.
American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source gun·ner (gnr) Pronunciation
Key
n.
A member of the armed forces who operates a gun.
A warrant officer in the U.S. Marine Corps having charge of ordnance.
Chiefly British. An artillery soldier, especially a private.
One who hunts with a gun.

Clearly you refer to yourself in reality or fantasy as someone with a
professional knowledge of the employment of weapons.

Anyone who chooses that name for a screen name, like your signature
statement, is making a Freudian statement of some kind.


Hummmm so guns = steel penis?
"Asch"? Kirst, I suppose, whatever, but it wasn't in your last post, so
don't try to slip it in, or bother referring to it now.


Gosh Mr. ****tard..do you Always sign your informal correspondence
with your full name?

Fascinating. Though all readers of my posts over the years know full
well I sign both Gunner and Gunner Asch.

Yes..I do have a working and professional knowledge of many types of
arms. I also use the nym Gunner Asch (Herbert) as someone close to my
outlook on the world. Thirdly..Ive been called Gunner for nearly 30
yrs in the real world. Not a nick I picked for myself,..it was
presented to me by those whom I respect. At one time..my working
"nick" was Shiva..but only while working. You remember Shiva dontcha?
That smiling fella out of the Hindu (and others) pantheon.
"Rule #35 That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error"
clearly implies involvement with, and the use of, retaliatory deadly force,
and, it's what you choose from infinity to be recognized by as a
correspondence signature.

So -again- I say, not that we can tell by your chosen screen name or
signature file.


Evidently not. Seems you got virtually everything wrong, except the
cut and pastes. But even you couldnt **** those up too badly.

Perhaps you may find the following sigs more to your liking? Which one
should I keep running for a while:


It doesn't matter. Everyone already knows you are a flaming right-wing
retardo.


Harry, your silly crossposting doesn't help keep the trash out.

Forge October 25th 06 05:01 PM

OT: Wake Up And Smell The Invasion !!!!
 
In article ,
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

Your sources won't address the characteristic I'm referring to, which can be
observed in early childhood. It's biological and not related to good/bad
parenting, nor is it related to nationality.


So... baaaaaasically you're saying that brown people are more violent
and prone toward committing crime?

You know that's been massively disproven by just about everyone, right?

Forge October 25th 06 05:02 PM

OT: Wake Up And Smell The Invasion !!!!
 
In article ,
Gunner wrote:

Im still waiting for those cites to prove the claims of the pro
illegals.


Tell ya what Homey, why don't YOU prove YOUR assertion FIRST and we'll
go from there?

JoeSpareBedroom October 25th 06 05:07 PM

OT: Wake Up And Smell The Invasion !!!!
 
"Forge" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

Your sources won't address the characteristic I'm referring to, which can
be
observed in early childhood. It's biological and not related to good/bad
parenting, nor is it related to nationality.


So... baaaaaasically you're saying that brown people are more violent
and prone toward committing crime?


Actually, I didn't say that, nor did I imply it. If you disagree, point out
the precise words which gave you that impression.



Gunner October 25th 06 05:26 PM

OT: Wake Up And Smell The Invasion !!!!
 
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 06:48:05 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 10/25/2006 6:28 AM, Gunner wrote:
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:31:24 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:15:31 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
wrote:
Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner
So, they're just like everyone else.

Are those your desires? Not mine.
We can tell from your screen name and signature.
Really? Gunner Asch and Rule #35?
No, "Gunner" and "Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge
tactical error"

Fascinating. Please provide how you arrived at that.
By the shortest possible distance, as always.

It will be interesting reading
My posts always are.

Gunner:

4 results for: gunner
View results from: Dictionary | Thesaurus | Encyclopedia | the Web

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1) - Cite This Source
gun?ner /'g?n?r/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[guhn-er]
Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation

-noun 1. a person who operates a gun or cannon.
2. Army. an occupational title in the artillery.
3. Navy. a person skilled in handling ammunition and gunnery equipment.
4. Marine Corps. a warrant officer who may be given any one of a number of
assignments.
5. British. a. Military. a private in the artillery.
b. Informal. any officer or enlisted person assigned to the artillery.

6. a person who hunts with a gun.

-Related forms
gun?ner?ship, noun
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.
American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source gun·ner (gnr) Pronunciation
Key
n.
A member of the armed forces who operates a gun.
A warrant officer in the U.S. Marine Corps having charge of ordnance.
Chiefly British. An artillery soldier, especially a private.
One who hunts with a gun.

Clearly you refer to yourself in reality or fantasy as someone with a
professional knowledge of the employment of weapons.

Anyone who chooses that name for a screen name, like your signature
statement, is making a Freudian statement of some kind.


Hummmm so guns = steel penis?
"Asch"? Kirst, I suppose, whatever, but it wasn't in your last post, so
don't try to slip it in, or bother referring to it now.


Gosh Mr. ****tard..do you Always sign your informal correspondence
with your full name?

Fascinating. Though all readers of my posts over the years know full
well I sign both Gunner and Gunner Asch.

Yes..I do have a working and professional knowledge of many types of
arms. I also use the nym Gunner Asch (Herbert) as someone close to my
outlook on the world. Thirdly..Ive been called Gunner for nearly 30
yrs in the real world. Not a nick I picked for myself,..it was
presented to me by those whom I respect. At one time..my working
"nick" was Shiva..but only while working. You remember Shiva dontcha?
That smiling fella out of the Hindu (and others) pantheon.
"Rule #35 That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error"
clearly implies involvement with, and the use of, retaliatory deadly force,
and, it's what you choose from infinity to be recognized by as a
correspondence signature.

So -again- I say, not that we can tell by your chosen screen name or
signature file.


Evidently not. Seems you got virtually everything wrong, except the
cut and pastes. But even you couldnt **** those up too badly.

Perhaps you may find the following sigs more to your liking? Which one
should I keep running for a while:


It doesn't matter. Everyone already knows you are a flaming right-wing
retardo.


The opinon of a flaming leftwing retardo is noted..and found funny as
hell.

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

Gunner October 25th 06 05:31 PM

OT: Wake Up And Smell The Invasion !!!!
 
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 07:48:57 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:31:24 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
wrote:


Hummmm so guns = steel penis?


Now -that- that Freudian.

"Asch"? Kirst, I suppose, whatever, but it wasn't in your last post, so
don't try to slip it in, or bother referring to it now.


Gosh Mr. ****tard..do you Always sign your informal correspondence
with your full name?


Hmmmm, let me look at the top of the screen.

Yup, for about 21,000 posts now.


piker


Fascinating. Though all readers of my posts over the years know full
well I sign both Gunner and Gunner Asch.


If you want a parallel drawn to Gunner Asch, sign Gunner Asch,
...****tard.


Make me..nya nya nya.

You're nobody in this newsgroup.


Which newsgroup might that be? Im posting to a thread on
rec.crafts.metalworking. So who the hell are you? And why should
anyone care? Other than your Dominatrix that is?

Yes..I do have a working and professional knowledge of many types of
arms. I also use the nym Gunner Asch (Herbert) as someone close to my
outlook on the world. Thirdly..Ive been called Gunner for nearly 30
yrs in the real world. Not a nick I picked for myself,..it was
presented to me by those whom I respect. At one time..my working
"nick" was Shiva..but only while working. You remember Shiva dontcha?
That smiling fella out of the Hindu (and others) pantheon.

"Rule #35 That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error"
clearly implies involvement with, and the use of, retaliatory deadly
force,
and, it's what you choose from infinity to be recognized by as a
correspondence signature.

So -again- I say, not that we can tell by your chosen screen name or
signature file.


Evidently not. Seems you got virtually everything wrong, except the
cut and pastes. But even you couldnt **** those up too badly.

Perhaps you may find the following sigs more to your liking? Which one
should I keep running for a while:


Talk about ****ing things up- I'm a Joe McCarthy Republican, somewhat to
the right of Genghis Khan politically and militarily.


Then act like one. People might think a whiney little turd like
yourself is typical of conservatives in general and we already get
enough bad press from the Leftards.

While I do have Libertarian leanings in personal choice categories, I
don't think the explosives we manufacture should be allowed to cool before
we drop them on someone else's "civilization".


Care to try that in English?

Run along, -boy-, and stick to cut-n-paste.


Blink blink?

"[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do
so would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their
methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of
regaining power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well
please. The problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long
that, as a group, they themselves are no longer sure of their goals.
They are a collection of wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a
grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some want a Socialist, secular-humanist
state, others the repeal of the Second Amendment. Some want same
sex/different species marriage, others want voting
rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care
and complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a
culture that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of
political correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same
way I view the competing factions of Islamic fundamentalists. The
latter hate each other to the core, and only join
forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the
core, and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives."
--Ron Marr


Or perhaps...

--
The other day I was talking with a Democrat friend about the election.
She'd remarked, with equal amounts of sarcasm and good-natured
ribbing, that the GOP had two years to build utopia. I thought about
that later while walking Jasper around the block, and thought, no;
they're not about building utopia. Personally, I'm interested in
keeping other people from building Utopia, because the more your
believe you can create heaven on earth the more likely you are to set
up guillotines in the public square to hasten the process.
- James Lileks

or how about:

"Get ****ed.

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Laugh laugh laugh

Gunner



Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

Gunner October 25th 06 05:42 PM

OT: Wake Up And Smell The Invasion !!!!
 
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:53:12 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:43:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.

Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20 and
25% of our prison and jail populations.

Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner

So, they're just like everyone else.

Are those your desires? Not mine.

Gunner

Clarification: A given percentage of any population will share certain
characteristics. Certain dolts want to believe that illegal immigrants are
made up of a higher percentage of *****VIOLENT CRIMINALS*****. These dolts
have no information to back this up. But, in this way, this sample
population is the same as any other.


On the other hand..certain other dolts think that those criminals who
have violated our laws by simply being here..and who use the border as
a get out of jail free card..are equally as violent as the US
population. Which is not true.

Tell you what..how about providing cites to your claim that illegals
are as violent as citizens. Say..per hundred thousand?

Ill be waiting for your cites. With my own, both from the DOJ, the FBI
and the Border Patrol , not to mention LA and San Diego Counties.

Whenever you are ready..prove your claim.



Your sources won't address the characteristic I'm referring to, which can be
observed in early childhood. It's biological and not related to good/bad
parenting, nor is it related to nationality. Some kids are edgy, and require
just a little more attention. For some reason, they don't "socialize" in
quite the same way as others. It's theorized that without special attention,
they ***MAY*** be predisposed to violence later in life. Here (NY), some of
them end up at BOCES for a while. In other states or countries, I have no
idea what happens to them.

If you'd like to know more about this, pick up your telephone, call your
local elementary school, and ask to speak to one of the special ed teachers.

Your weaseling and pychobabble is noted.

The comment was made that illegal aliens swamp our social and criminal
justice systems and commit crimes at a higher rate than do citizens.

You claimed it was false. I asked you to back up your claim with
cites. Now you drift off into bull**** in a transparent and rather
pathetic attempt to deflect from the fact everyone saw you stupidly
painted yourself into the corner.

The fact of the matter IS, you stupid git..that illegals DO commit
crimes at a higher rate than most citizens of the US. Crimes of
violence.

And there are clear reasons for this, none of which involve
pyschobabble and elementary school bull****.

Your denial is pathetic as is the pitiful attempts at trying to get
people to ignore you sitting in the corner surrounded by wet paint.

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

JoeSpareBedroom October 25th 06 05:48 PM

OT: Wake Up And Smell The Invasion !!!!
 
"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:53:12 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:43:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.

Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20
and
25% of our prison and jail populations.

Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner

So, they're just like everyone else.

Are those your desires? Not mine.

Gunner

Clarification: A given percentage of any population will share certain
characteristics. Certain dolts want to believe that illegal immigrants
are
made up of a higher percentage of *****VIOLENT CRIMINALS*****. These
dolts
have no information to back this up. But, in this way, this sample
population is the same as any other.

On the other hand..certain other dolts think that those criminals who
have violated our laws by simply being here..and who use the border as
a get out of jail free card..are equally as violent as the US
population. Which is not true.

Tell you what..how about providing cites to your claim that illegals
are as violent as citizens. Say..per hundred thousand?

Ill be waiting for your cites. With my own, both from the DOJ, the FBI
and the Border Patrol , not to mention LA and San Diego Counties.

Whenever you are ready..prove your claim.



Your sources won't address the characteristic I'm referring to, which can
be
observed in early childhood. It's biological and not related to good/bad
parenting, nor is it related to nationality. Some kids are edgy, and
require
just a little more attention. For some reason, they don't "socialize" in
quite the same way as others. It's theorized that without special
attention,
they ***MAY*** be predisposed to violence later in life. Here (NY), some
of
them end up at BOCES for a while. In other states or countries, I have no
idea what happens to them.

If you'd like to know more about this, pick up your telephone, call your
local elementary school, and ask to speak to one of the special ed
teachers.

Your weaseling and pychobabble is noted.

The comment was made that illegal aliens swamp our social and criminal
justice systems and commit crimes at a higher rate than do citizens.

You claimed it was false. I asked you to back up your claim with
cites. Now you drift off into bull**** in a transparent and rather
pathetic attempt to deflect from the fact everyone saw you stupidly
painted yourself into the corner.

The fact of the matter IS, you stupid git..that illegals DO commit
crimes at a higher rate than most citizens of the US. Crimes of
violence.

And there are clear reasons for this, none of which involve
pyschobabble and elementary school bull****.

Your denial is pathetic as is the pitiful attempts at trying to get
people to ignore you sitting in the corner surrounded by wet paint.

Gunner


You get very upset when someone shares knowledge which was gained by means
other than the internet. It upsets you even more when I suggest that you
speak to an authority from whom you could learn something interesting, like
a special ed teacher. Thank you. You've illustrated what I told you about
some people being "edgy". With kids, it's often easy to treat. But, without
treatment.....here you are.




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