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"Gunner" wrote in message
... On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 07:48:57 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" wrote: Yup, for about 21,000 posts now. piker So you say. There's no evidence to bear that out. Fascinating. Though all readers of my posts over the years know full well I sign both Gunner and Gunner Asch. If you want a parallel drawn to Gunner Asch, sign Gunner Asch, ...****tard. Make me..nya nya nya. What a bitch. It's much easier to point out that you're stupid, and then let you demonstrate it for the audience in successive posts. And you're certainly no disappointment. You're nobody in this newsgroup. Which newsgroup might that be? Im posting to a thread on rec.crafts.metalworking. If you weren't such a -piker-, you'd understand your own inaccuracy. So who the hell are you? Who are you to ask? And why should anyone care? I dunno, you're the one that asked. Other than your Dominatrix that is? Jealous that I have one, and you're still ****ing the same fat skank you knocked up in high school? Talk about ****ing things up- I'm a Joe McCarthy Republican, somewhat to the right of Genghis Khan politically and militarily. Then act like one. I do. Racial bigotry like yours is an admission of blanket fear and paranoia, and a ball and chain to true patriots capable of rational thought and action such as myself. You sit around cowering in the dark, spreading hatred on the internet that you're far too yellow to act out in person. You shriek in terror when the girlscouts ring your door bell to sell cookies. People might think a whiney little turd like yourself is typical of conservatives in general and we already get enough bad press from the Leftards. Would you care to express any of this in person? I didn't think so. Douglas Frederick 128 Village Dr Gatlinburg, Tn Your turn. |
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On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:02:51 -0400, Forge
wrote: In article , Gunner wrote: Im still waiting for those cites to prove the claims of the pro illegals. Tell ya what Homey, why don't YOU prove YOUR assertion FIRST and we'll go from there? I asked first. Double dog dare you.."homeboy" Gunner Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error" |
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On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:01:55 -0400, Forge
wrote: In article , "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Your sources won't address the characteristic I'm referring to, which can be observed in early childhood. It's biological and not related to good/bad parenting, nor is it related to nationality. So... baaaaaasically you're saying that brown people are more violent and prone toward committing crime? You know that's been massively disproven by just about everyone, right? Of course its wrong. The subject is illegal aliens. The fact that some are brown is not germane Gunner Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error" |
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On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:48:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "Gunner" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:53:12 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Gunner" wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:43:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway. Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20 and 25% of our prison and jail populations. Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and rape some folks, and.... Gunner So, they're just like everyone else. Are those your desires? Not mine. Gunner Clarification: A given percentage of any population will share certain characteristics. Certain dolts want to believe that illegal immigrants are made up of a higher percentage of *****VIOLENT CRIMINALS*****. These dolts have no information to back this up. But, in this way, this sample population is the same as any other. On the other hand..certain other dolts think that those criminals who have violated our laws by simply being here..and who use the border as a get out of jail free card..are equally as violent as the US population. Which is not true. Tell you what..how about providing cites to your claim that illegals are as violent as citizens. Say..per hundred thousand? Ill be waiting for your cites. With my own, both from the DOJ, the FBI and the Border Patrol , not to mention LA and San Diego Counties. Whenever you are ready..prove your claim. Your sources won't address the characteristic I'm referring to, which can be observed in early childhood. It's biological and not related to good/bad parenting, nor is it related to nationality. Some kids are edgy, and require just a little more attention. For some reason, they don't "socialize" in quite the same way as others. It's theorized that without special attention, they ***MAY*** be predisposed to violence later in life. Here (NY), some of them end up at BOCES for a while. In other states or countries, I have no idea what happens to them. If you'd like to know more about this, pick up your telephone, call your local elementary school, and ask to speak to one of the special ed teachers. Your weaseling and pychobabble is noted. The comment was made that illegal aliens swamp our social and criminal justice systems and commit crimes at a higher rate than do citizens. You claimed it was false. I asked you to back up your claim with cites. Now you drift off into bull**** in a transparent and rather pathetic attempt to deflect from the fact everyone saw you stupidly painted yourself into the corner. The fact of the matter IS, you stupid git..that illegals DO commit crimes at a higher rate than most citizens of the US. Crimes of violence. And there are clear reasons for this, none of which involve pyschobabble and elementary school bull****. Your denial is pathetic as is the pitiful attempts at trying to get people to ignore you sitting in the corner surrounded by wet paint. Gunner You get very upset when someone shares knowledge which was gained by means other than the internet. It upsets you even more when I suggest that you speak to an authority from whom you could learn something interesting, like a special ed teacher. Thank you. You've illustrated what I told you about some people being "edgy". With kids, it's often easy to treat. But, without treatment.....here you are. More pyschobabble on your part..more attempts to deflect. You get all pedantic and buffoonish whenever someone shows you to be not only wrong..but a buffoon. Seems your "edgy" is manifested by going stupid. Gunner Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error" |
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"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" wrote in message ... Douglas Frederick 128 Village Dr Gatlinburg, Tn Your turn. You must be lonely. Why else would you CROSSPOST your name and address to ..... ..... FIVE FRIGGIN' NEWSGROUPS!? Eisboch |
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"Gunner" wrote in message
... On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:48:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Gunner" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:53:12 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Gunner" wrote in message m... On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:43:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway. Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20 and 25% of our prison and jail populations. Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and rape some folks, and.... Gunner So, they're just like everyone else. Are those your desires? Not mine. Gunner Clarification: A given percentage of any population will share certain characteristics. Certain dolts want to believe that illegal immigrants are made up of a higher percentage of *****VIOLENT CRIMINALS*****. These dolts have no information to back this up. But, in this way, this sample population is the same as any other. On the other hand..certain other dolts think that those criminals who have violated our laws by simply being here..and who use the border as a get out of jail free card..are equally as violent as the US population. Which is not true. Tell you what..how about providing cites to your claim that illegals are as violent as citizens. Say..per hundred thousand? Ill be waiting for your cites. With my own, both from the DOJ, the FBI and the Border Patrol , not to mention LA and San Diego Counties. Whenever you are ready..prove your claim. Your sources won't address the characteristic I'm referring to, which can be observed in early childhood. It's biological and not related to good/bad parenting, nor is it related to nationality. Some kids are edgy, and require just a little more attention. For some reason, they don't "socialize" in quite the same way as others. It's theorized that without special attention, they ***MAY*** be predisposed to violence later in life. Here (NY), some of them end up at BOCES for a while. In other states or countries, I have no idea what happens to them. If you'd like to know more about this, pick up your telephone, call your local elementary school, and ask to speak to one of the special ed teachers. Your weaseling and pychobabble is noted. The comment was made that illegal aliens swamp our social and criminal justice systems and commit crimes at a higher rate than do citizens. You claimed it was false. I asked you to back up your claim with cites. Now you drift off into bull**** in a transparent and rather pathetic attempt to deflect from the fact everyone saw you stupidly painted yourself into the corner. The fact of the matter IS, you stupid git..that illegals DO commit crimes at a higher rate than most citizens of the US. Crimes of violence. And there are clear reasons for this, none of which involve pyschobabble and elementary school bull****. Your denial is pathetic as is the pitiful attempts at trying to get people to ignore you sitting in the corner surrounded by wet paint. Gunner You get very upset when someone shares knowledge which was gained by means other than the internet. It upsets you even more when I suggest that you speak to an authority from whom you could learn something interesting, like a special ed teacher. Thank you. You've illustrated what I told you about some people being "edgy". With kids, it's often easy to treat. But, without treatment.....here you are. More pyschobabble on your part..more attempts to deflect. You get all pedantic and buffoonish whenever someone shows you to be not only wrong..but a buffoon. Seems your "edgy" is manifested by going stupid. Gunner You haven't shown me anything, actually. All you've said is that illegal aliens are "more likely" to commit violent crimes than members of the legal population of this country. Any statistics professor could help you with that, although you'd probably get upset and call him a fag. |
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Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick wrote: Douglas Frederick 128 Village Dr Gatlinburg, Tn Your turn. Wow, Doug, people actually live in Gatlinburg? Last time I was there, it took an hr. to get in, and about an hr. to get out. The whole town seemed like one giant tourist trap. I really didn't think there was a town there anymore. |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
... "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" wrote in message ... Douglas Frederick 128 Village Dr Gatlinburg, Tn Your turn. You must be lonely. Why else would you CROSSPOST your name and address to .... .... FIVE FRIGGIN' NEWSGROUPS!? Eisboch Maybe because I've just never been worries about low life stalkers like you? I've posted my name, address and phone number (not -1- call) on the internet for ten years. It's only the paranoid and Dungeons&Dragons types like you that are terrified. On the other newsgroup I frequent, where humans also actually see natural light, I've met over 90 members in 11 states (coast to coast) to scuba dive. |
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Douglas W. Popeye Frederick wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" wrote in message ... Douglas Frederick 128 Village Dr Gatlinburg, Tn Your turn. You must be lonely. Why else would you CROSSPOST your name and address to .... .... FIVE FRIGGIN' NEWSGROUPS!? Eisboch Maybe because I've just never been worries about low life stalkers like you? I've posted my name, address and phone number (not -1- call) on the internet for ten years. It's only the paranoid and Dungeons&Dragons types like you that are terrified. On the other newsgroup I frequent, where humans also actually see natural light, I've met over 90 members in 11 states (coast to coast) to scuba dive. |
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"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" wrote in message ... Douglas Frederick 128 Village Dr Gatlinburg, Tn Your turn. You must be lonely. Why else would you CROSSPOST your name and address to .... .... FIVE FRIGGIN' NEWSGROUPS!? Eisboch Maybe because I've just never been worries about low life stalkers like you? I've posted my name, address and phone number (not -1- call) on the internet for ten years. It's only the paranoid and Dungeons&Dragons types like you that are terrified. On the other newsgroup I frequent, where humans also actually see natural light, I've met over 90 members in 11 states (coast to coast) to scuba dive. So, it's necessary for you to crosspost to five newsgroups? Eisboch |
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"Gunner" wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:43:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway. Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20 and 25% of our prison and jail populations. Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and rape some folks, and.... Gunner So, they're just like everyone else. Are those your desires? Not mine. Gunner Clarification: A given percentage of any population will share certain characteristics. Certain dolts want to believe that illegal immigrants are made up of a higher percentage of *****VIOLENT CRIMINALS*****. These dolts have no information to back this up. But, in this way, this sample population is the same as any other. On the other hand..certain other dolts think that those criminals who have violated our laws by simply being here..and who use the border as a get out of jail free card..are equally as violent as the US population. Which is not true. Tell you what..how about providing cites to your claim that illegals are as violent as citizens. Say..per hundred thousand? Ill be waiting for your cites. With my own, both from the DOJ, the FBI and the Border Patrol , not to mention LA and San Diego Counties. Whenever you are ready..prove your claim. Gunner Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error" Actually, I did look it up, Gunner. According to the DOJ's 2003 stats, there were 2084097 people in federal, state, and local detention The GAO says 304168 were illegals That's 14.6% considerably less than your 20-25%. As far as arrests; The GAO lists 21% of illegal alien offences were immigration related. Violent crimes (assault, robbery, sex offence, homicide and kidnapping) accounted for 11.5% of their offences. Roughly the same as the FBI's overall national rate for the same period. (note the GAO's numbers include prostitution with sex offenses and do not separate out the different classes of assault like the FBI stats do) In fact, if your 30,000,000 illegal population figure are correct, That works out to 290 violent crimes per 100000. Considerably less than the 476 national average. http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/03cius.htm http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05646r.pdf http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/welcome.html Paul K. Dickman |
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"Paul K. Dickman" wrote in message
... "Gunner" wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:43:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway. Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20 and 25% of our prison and jail populations. Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and rape some folks, and.... Gunner So, they're just like everyone else. Are those your desires? Not mine. Gunner Clarification: A given percentage of any population will share certain characteristics. Certain dolts want to believe that illegal immigrants are made up of a higher percentage of *****VIOLENT CRIMINALS*****. These dolts have no information to back this up. But, in this way, this sample population is the same as any other. On the other hand..certain other dolts think that those criminals who have violated our laws by simply being here..and who use the border as a get out of jail free card..are equally as violent as the US population. Which is not true. Tell you what..how about providing cites to your claim that illegals are as violent as citizens. Say..per hundred thousand? Ill be waiting for your cites. With my own, both from the DOJ, the FBI and the Border Patrol , not to mention LA and San Diego Counties. Whenever you are ready..prove your claim. Gunner Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error" Actually, I did look it up, Gunner. According to the DOJ's 2003 stats, there were 2084097 people in federal, state, and local detention The GAO says 304168 were illegals That's 14.6% considerably less than your 20-25%. As far as arrests; The GAO lists 21% of illegal alien offences were immigration related. Violent crimes (assault, robbery, sex offence, homicide and kidnapping) accounted for 11.5% of their offences. Roughly the same as the FBI's overall national rate for the same period. (note the GAO's numbers include prostitution with sex offenses and do not separate out the different classes of assault like the FBI stats do) In fact, if your 30,000,000 illegal population figure are correct, That works out to 290 violent crimes per 100000. Considerably less than the 476 national average. http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/03cius.htm http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05646r.pdf http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/welcome.html Paul K. Dickman Please refrain from bringing facts to this discussion, Paul. It causes chaos. |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" wrote in message ... Douglas Frederick 128 Village Dr Gatlinburg, Tn Your turn. You must be lonely. Why else would you CROSSPOST your name and address to .... .... FIVE FRIGGIN' NEWSGROUPS!? Eisboch Maybe because I've just never been worries about low life stalkers like you? I've posted my name, address and phone number (not -1- call) on the internet for ten years. It's only the paranoid and Dungeons&Dragons types like you that are terrified. On the other newsgroup I frequent, where humans also actually see natural light, I've met over 90 members in 11 states (coast to coast) to scuba dive. So, it's necessary for you to crosspost to five newsgroups? That's where the thread is, Dude. Why bother cutting the other four? |
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"Paul K. Dickman" wrote in message
... "Gunner" wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:43:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway. Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20 and 25% of our prison and jail populations. Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and rape some folks, and.... Gunner So, they're just like everyone else. Are those your desires? Not mine. Gunner Clarification: A given percentage of any population will share certain characteristics. Certain dolts want to believe that illegal immigrants are made up of a higher percentage of *****VIOLENT CRIMINALS*****. These dolts have no information to back this up. But, in this way, this sample population is the same as any other. On the other hand..certain other dolts think that those criminals who have violated our laws by simply being here..and who use the border as a get out of jail free card..are equally as violent as the US population. Which is not true. Tell you what..how about providing cites to your claim that illegals are as violent as citizens. Say..per hundred thousand? Ill be waiting for your cites. With my own, both from the DOJ, the FBI and the Border Patrol , not to mention LA and San Diego Counties. Whenever you are ready..prove your claim. Gunner Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error" Actually, I did look it up, Gunner. According to the DOJ's 2003 stats, there were 2084097 people in federal, state, and local detention The GAO says 304168 were illegals That's 14.6% considerably less than your 20-25%. As far as arrests; The GAO lists 21% of illegal alien offences were immigration related. Violent crimes (assault, robbery, sex offence, homicide and kidnapping) accounted for 11.5% of their offences. Roughly the same as the FBI's overall national rate for the same period. (note the GAO's numbers include prostitution with sex offenses and do not separate out the different classes of assault like the FBI stats do) In fact, if your 30,000,000 illegal population figure are correct, That works out to 290 violent crimes per 100000. Considerably less than the 476 national average. http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/03cius.htm http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05646r.pdf http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/welcome.html Paul K. Dickman cough :-) |
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Gunner wrote: Of course its wrong. The subject is illegal aliens. The fact that some are brown is not germane Do you really think there would be nearly as much an outrage against illegals if they were all English-speaking Canadians? The fact is that color, culture, and language are germane to the immigration issue because not everybody is as enlightened and liberal as you are. |
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Paul K. Dickman wrote: In fact, if your 30,000,000 illegal population figure are correct, That works out to 290 violent crimes per 100000. Considerably less than the 476 national average. http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/03cius.htm http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05646r.pdf http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/welcome.html The statistics I've seen support what you've stated, and even for crime overall (violent and nonviolent), illegals seem to commit them at half the average rate. Actually they may be even better than that, once you consider that they're more likely to live in high-crime areas. Doesn't it occur to him that illegals have a very strong economic incentive to stay out of trouble? The typical illegal from Mexico just wants to work here for ten years and then go back to Mexico and live in a nice house staffed by a maid and nanny. Maybe 5% of them already have maids back home. |
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"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... So, it's necessary for you to crosspost to five newsgroups? That's where the thread is, Dude. Why bother cutting the other four? Dude? DUDE? Eisboch |
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In article ,
Gunner wrote: Im still waiting for those cites to prove the claims of the pro illegals. Tell ya what Homey, why don't YOU prove YOUR assertion FIRST and we'll go from there? I asked first. Double dog dare you.."homeboy" No you didn't. You made your claim, one of us said "Cite?" |
This thread is interesting.
Y'know.
Wahts really funny about this whole thread is that "Tedor.." , just like "Fred",started this thread with the usual cross-posting, and did you notice that "Tedor.." , like "Fred" hasn't been in here to comment on the thread that "Tedor.." himself started. Sort of like the behavior pattern of those who start some rukus, then back out like saying "well, don't blame me..." Or a crap slinger with the process of something like: "Hey! lets you and him fight!" Sure enough, it looks like "Tedor.." , just like "Fred", got the results he was probably looking for.... A genuine free-for-all. Adda-boy "Tedor..." ! |
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Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" wrote in message ... Douglas Frederick 128 Village Dr Gatlinburg, Tn Your turn. You must be lonely. Why else would you CROSSPOST your name and address to .... .... FIVE FRIGGIN' NEWSGROUPS!? Eisboch Maybe because I've just never been worries about low life stalkers like you? I've posted my name, address and phone number (not -1- call) on the internet for ten years. It's only the paranoid and Dungeons&Dragons types like you that are terrified. On the other newsgroup I frequent, where humans also actually see natural light, I've met over 90 members in 11 states (coast to coast) to scuba dive. So, it's necessary for you to crosspost to five newsgroups? That's where the thread is, Dude. Why bother cutting the other four? Common courtesy. |
Ah yes! and here's the source!
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On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 13:07:00 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
wrote: "Gunner" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 07:48:57 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" wrote: Yup, for about 21,000 posts now. piker So you say. There's no evidence to bear that out. Snicker...run my email addys through google stats. 21,000... amature time. Fascinating. Though all readers of my posts over the years know full well I sign both Gunner and Gunner Asch. If you want a parallel drawn to Gunner Asch, sign Gunner Asch, ...****tard. Make me..nya nya nya. What a bitch. Yo momma! It's much easier to point out that you're stupid, and then let you demonstrate it for the audience in successive posts. And you're certainly no disappointment. Im sure your parents are proud. As is the local mental health services. They actually got you communicating again. You're nobody in this newsgroup. Which newsgroup might that be? Im posting to a thread on rec.crafts.metalworking. If you weren't such a -piker-, you'd understand your own inaccuracy. Care to demonstrate the inaccuracy? So who the hell are you? Who are you to ask? And why should anyone care? I dunno, you're the one that asked. Other than your Dominatrix that is? Jealous that I have one, and you're still ****ing the same fat skank you knocked up in high school? Which one was that? Wasnt yo momma was it? Talk about ****ing things up- I'm a Joe McCarthy Republican, somewhat to the right of Genghis Khan politically and militarily. Then act like one. I do. Right. So does Alfrankin Racial bigotry like yours is an admission of blanket fear and paranoia, and a ball and chain to true patriots capable of rational thought and action such as myself. Which racial bigotry might that be? You sit around cowering in the dark, spreading hatred on the internet that you're far too yellow to act out in person. I guess thats why Ive got sunburn on my red neck. You shriek in terror when the girlscouts ring your door bell to sell cookies. Really..still sniffing around the girl scouts? People might think a whiney little turd like yourself is typical of conservatives in general and we already get enough bad press from the Leftards. Would you care to express any of this in person? I didn't think so. Douglas Frederick 128 Village Dr Gatlinburg, Tn Your turn. Sure..when can I expect the plane tickets? I can take a flight out of Ontario, California. Next Thursday is good. Gunner, 326 Olive Ave Taft, California Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error" |
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On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 13:15:07 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" wrote in message ... Douglas Frederick 128 Village Dr Gatlinburg, Tn Your turn. You must be lonely. Why else would you CROSSPOST your name and address to .... .... FIVE FRIGGIN' NEWSGROUPS!? Eisboch Cause he is indeed a loony Gunner Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error" |
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On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:21:21 -0400, Forge
wrote: In article , Gunner wrote: Im still waiting for those cites to prove the claims of the pro illegals. Tell ya what Homey, why don't YOU prove YOUR assertion FIRST and we'll go from there? I asked first. Double dog dare you.."homeboy" No you didn't. You made your claim, one of us said "Cite?" Sigh..review the thread on google groups. So you are ducking again? Gunner Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error" |
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On 25 Oct 2006 14:40:37 -0700, "larry moe 'n curly"
wrote: Gunner wrote: Of course its wrong. The subject is illegal aliens. The fact that some are brown is not germane Do you really think there would be nearly as much an outrage against illegals if they were all English-speaking Canadians? **** yes. The fact is that color, culture, and language are germane to the immigration issue because not everybody is as enlightened and liberal as you are. Really? Odd..so the black and hispanic Minutemen are simply race traitors? Fascinating Gunner Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error" |
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On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:15:22 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: More pyschobabble on your part..more attempts to deflect. You get all pedantic and buffoonish whenever someone shows you to be not only wrong..but a buffoon. Seems your "edgy" is manifested by going stupid. Gunner You haven't shown me anything, actually. All you've said is that illegal aliens are "more likely" to commit violent crimes than members of the legal population of this country. Any statistics professor could help you with that, although you'd probably get upset and call him a fag. Provide yours..then Ill refute with mine. Double dog dare you. Gunner "[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of regaining power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well please. The problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a group, they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a collection of wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some want a Socialist, secular-humanist state, others the repeal of the Second Amendment. Some want same sex/different species marriage, others want voting rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view the competing factions of Islamic fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the core, and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr |
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On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:31:30 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman"
wrote: "Gunner" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:43:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway. Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20 and 25% of our prison and jail populations. Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and rape some folks, and.... Gunner So, they're just like everyone else. Are those your desires? Not mine. Gunner Clarification: A given percentage of any population will share certain characteristics. Certain dolts want to believe that illegal immigrants are made up of a higher percentage of *****VIOLENT CRIMINALS*****. These dolts have no information to back this up. But, in this way, this sample population is the same as any other. On the other hand..certain other dolts think that those criminals who have violated our laws by simply being here..and who use the border as a get out of jail free card..are equally as violent as the US population. Which is not true. Tell you what..how about providing cites to your claim that illegals are as violent as citizens. Say..per hundred thousand? Ill be waiting for your cites. With my own, both from the DOJ, the FBI and the Border Patrol , not to mention LA and San Diego Counties. Whenever you are ready..prove your claim. Gunner Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error" Actually, I did look it up, Gunner. According to the DOJ's 2003 stats, there were 2084097 people in federal, state, and local detention The GAO says 304168 were illegals That's 14.6% considerably less than your 20-25%. As far as arrests; The GAO lists 21% of illegal alien offences were immigration related. Violent crimes (assault, robbery, sex offence, homicide and kidnapping) accounted for 11.5% of their offences. Roughly the same as the FBI's overall national rate for the same period. (note the GAO's numbers include prostitution with sex offenses and do not separate out the different classes of assault like the FBI stats do) In fact, if your 30,000,000 illegal population figure are correct, That works out to 290 violent crimes per 100000. Considerably less than the 476 national average. http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/03cius.htm http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05646r.pdf http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/welcome.html Paul K. Dickman Check the stats for California. But thanks for the nice post. Now getting back to California again.... Gunner Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error" |
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oups.com... Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick wrote: I've posted my name, address and phone number (not -1- call) on the internet for ten years. It's only the paranoid and Dungeons&Dragons types like you that are terrified. On the other newsgroup I frequent, where humans also actually see natural light, I've met over 90 members in 11 states (coast to coast) to scuba dive. So, it's necessary for you to crosspost to five newsgroups? That's where the thread is, Dude. Why bother cutting the other four? Common courtesy. The thread has been running through the four groups from its inception, or at least since long before I entered it. It is only natural to reply to it in the original state. Common sense dictates that if you don't want to read it, -simply- don't open it. You're the one that -chooses- to open and read it and then whines, not me. I'm not responsible for your poor choices. ps, if you came to Usenet expecting a lot of courtesy, I hope you brook disappointment well. -- Popeye The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present. - Abraham Lincoln www.finalprotectivefire.com |
OT: Wake Up And Smell The Invasion !!!!
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 03:43:05 GMT, Gunner
wrote: On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:15:22 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: More pyschobabble on your part..more attempts to deflect. You get all pedantic and buffoonish whenever someone shows you to be not only wrong..but a buffoon. Seems your "edgy" is manifested by going stupid. Gunner You haven't shown me anything, actually. All you've said is that illegal aliens are "more likely" to commit violent crimes than members of the legal population of this country. Any statistics professor could help you with that, although you'd probably get upset and call him a fag. Provide yours. But...you are the one making the claim. |
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"Gunner" wrote in message
... On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 13:07:00 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" wrote: Yup, for about 21,000 posts now. piker So you say. There's no evidence to bear that out. Snicker...run my email addys through google stats. 21,000... amature time. What, more of your Ouija Board reputation? Did I miss a list of your "addys"? Your claim, your cite, knock yourself out. Waiting. You'll need proof, of course, that they're your e-mails. They'll all have to be signed Gunner Asch. Which newsgroup might that be? Im posting to a thread on rec.crafts.metalworking. If you weren't such a -piker-, you'd understand your own inaccuracy. Care to demonstrate the inaccuracy? No, Mr. Usenet Vet. I'd just as soon let you continue to make yourself look foolish. Sure..when can I expect the plane tickets? I can take a flight out of Ontario, California. Next Thursday is good. No need. I'm in Rancho Cucamonga several times a year. Real name? Phone number? Gunner, 326 Olive Ave Taft, California |
OT: Wake Up And Smell The Invasion !!!!
"Gunner" wrote in message
... On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:31:30 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman" wrote: http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/03cius.htm http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05646r.pdf http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/welcome.html Paul K. Dickman Check the stats for California. But thanks for the nice post. Now getting back to California again.... Oh, -HELL- no. You didn't say -squat- about "California" in your bigoted rant. You taunted Paul to produce the numbers, and he Pro-Pimp Bitchslapped you. Don't be trying to switch the context now that you're in the hole. |
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"David Johnston" wrote in message
... On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 03:43:05 GMT, Gunner wrote: On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:15:22 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: More pyschobabble on your part..more attempts to deflect. You get all pedantic and buffoonish whenever someone shows you to be not only wrong..but a buffoon. Seems your "edgy" is manifested by going stupid. Gunner You haven't shown me anything, actually. All you've said is that illegal aliens are "more likely" to commit violent crimes than members of the legal population of this country. Any statistics professor could help you with that, although you'd probably get upset and call him a fag. Provide yours. But...you are the one making the claim. And he claims to be a Usenet etiquette expert... :-) |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Forge" wrote in message ... In article , "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Your sources won't address the characteristic I'm referring to, which can be observed in early childhood. It's biological and not related to good/bad parenting, nor is it related to nationality. So... baaaaaasically you're saying that brown people are more violent and prone toward committing crime? Actually, I didn't say that, nor did I imply it. If you disagree, point out the precise words which gave you that impression. Nobody would say it anyway, because it simply silly. If it were true, then, if you got a suntan, you'd suddenly get the urge to rob banks. |
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Gunner wrote: On 25 Oct 2006 14:40:37 -0700, "larry moe 'n curly" wrote: Do you really think there would be nearly as much an outrage against illegals if they were all English-speaking Canadians? **** yes. How could we tell they weren't Americans without asking them? |
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"Gunner" wrote in message
... On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:15:22 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: More pyschobabble on your part..more attempts to deflect. You get all pedantic and buffoonish whenever someone shows you to be not only wrong..but a buffoon. Seems your "edgy" is manifested by going stupid. Gunner You haven't shown me anything, actually. All you've said is that illegal aliens are "more likely" to commit violent crimes than members of the legal population of this country. Any statistics professor could help you with that, although you'd probably get upset and call him a fag. Provide yours..then Ill refute with mine. Double dog dare you. Gunner First of all, someone here already provided the stats which refute your silly theory. There's no point in my repeating it. I *will* do something for you, though. Tell me what town & state you live in, and give me you phone number. I'll contact the nearest high school or college, find a statistics teacher, and have that person get in touch with you. If you can shut the phuque up long enough to listen to them, you'll learn something. |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
... On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:26:34 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Gunner" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:15:22 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: More pyschobabble on your part..more attempts to deflect. You get all pedantic and buffoonish whenever someone shows you to be not only wrong..but a buffoon. Seems your "edgy" is manifested by going stupid. Gunner You haven't shown me anything, actually. All you've said is that illegal aliens are "more likely" to commit violent crimes than members of the legal population of this country. Any statistics professor could help you with that, although you'd probably get upset and call him a fag. Provide yours..then Ill refute with mine. Double dog dare you. First of all, someone here already provided the stats which refute your silly theory. There's no point in my repeating it. I *will* do something for you, though. Tell me what town & state you live in, and give me you phone number. I'll contact the nearest high school or college, find a statistics teacher, and have that person get in touch with you. If you can shut the phuque up long enough to listen to them, you'll learn something. http://www.cis.org/articles/2001/cri...estimated.html I'd like to see these stats compared to those of a similar population. Unfortunately, if I describe that population, a different group of ******s will crawl out of the woodwork. |
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OT: Wake Up And Smell The Invasion !!!!
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 00:22:15 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
wrote: You'll need proof, of course, that they're your e-mails. They'll all have to be signed Gunner Asch. Nope..they all have to originate from or several others with spam protection built in And I dont need to provide anything. You mean dick in the grand scheme of things and are simply a bit of snot flicked on the wall, that I note in disgust in passing Snicker Gunner Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error" |
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