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Eisboch wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message ... I suscribe to Consumer Reports and the main Toyota vehicles i would be interested in are always at the top of the pack. that is.. Sienna, Tundra, Corolla, Highlander, RAV4 and I expect the new RAV6 Consumer Reports has a "thing" with Toyota and has for years. Eisboch I have always been leary of CR, but when I looked at MSN consumer reviews, Toyota still had great reviews, a 8.1 from users. Then I checked Honda and they had a 9.3. Toyota and Honda used to run neck and neck, it appears Honda has jumped ahead in the mid-size sedan. |
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On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 08:40:26 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... I suscribe to Consumer Reports and the main Toyota vehicles i would be interested in are always at the top of the pack. that is.. Sienna, Tundra, Corolla, Highlander, RAV4 and I expect the new RAV6 Consumer Reports has a "thing" with Toyota and has for years. Eisboch I have always been leary of CR, but when I looked at MSN consumer reviews, Toyota still had great reviews, a 8.1 from users. Then I checked Honda and they had a 9.3. Toyota and Honda used to run neck and neck, it appears Honda has jumped ahead in the mid-size sedan. I've found Consumer Reports online to be a valuable source of information on a range of products. http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/index.htm It also makes me popular with family and friends who call wanting the latest info! |
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JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 08:40:26 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... I suscribe to Consumer Reports and the main Toyota vehicles i would be interested in are always at the top of the pack. that is.. Sienna, Tundra, Corolla, Highlander, RAV4 and I expect the new RAV6 Consumer Reports has a "thing" with Toyota and has for years. Eisboch I have always been leary of CR, but when I looked at MSN consumer reviews, Toyota still had great reviews, a 8.1 from users. Then I checked Honda and they had a 9.3. Toyota and Honda used to run neck and neck, it appears Honda has jumped ahead in the mid-size sedan. I've found Consumer Reports online to be a valuable source of information on a range of products. http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/index.htm It also makes me popular with family and friends who call wanting the latest info! Same here. My sister sends my nices to me for an 'insider' opinion. One bought the Toyota Sienna minivan after I pointed out CR's ratings. One brother-in-law is still a hard sell though. He's mostly mad because the local Toyota dealers are all owned by the same company and they refuse to dicker. |
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On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 13:23:52 GMT, Don White wrote:
JohnH wrote: On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 08:40:26 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... I suscribe to Consumer Reports and the main Toyota vehicles i would be interested in are always at the top of the pack. that is.. Sienna, Tundra, Corolla, Highlander, RAV4 and I expect the new RAV6 Consumer Reports has a "thing" with Toyota and has for years. Eisboch I have always been leary of CR, but when I looked at MSN consumer reviews, Toyota still had great reviews, a 8.1 from users. Then I checked Honda and they had a 9.3. Toyota and Honda used to run neck and neck, it appears Honda has jumped ahead in the mid-size sedan. I've found Consumer Reports online to be a valuable source of information on a range of products. http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/index.htm It also makes me popular with family and friends who call wanting the latest info! Same here. My sister sends my nices to me for an 'insider' opinion. One bought the Toyota Sienna minivan after I pointed out CR's ratings. One brother-in-law is still a hard sell though. He's mostly mad because the local Toyota dealers are all owned by the same company and they refuse to dicker. Both my daughters have the Honda Odyssey (sp?), but they got the info a few years ago! |
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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... I suscribe to Consumer Reports and the main Toyota vehicles i would be interested in are always at the top of the pack. that is.. Sienna, Tundra, Corolla, Highlander, RAV4 and I expect the new RAV6 Consumer Reports has a "thing" with Toyota and has for years. Eisboch I have always been leary of CR, but when I looked at MSN consumer reviews, Toyota still had great reviews, a 8.1 from users. CR does not always test the items in the manner that they are used in over time. With small appliances the ratings are irrelevant due to the low purchase cost and the hight maintenance cost. The wife just go a new motor put into the vacuum cleaner for about $129 with $50 of it being labor. Most likely we should have bought a new one. Then I checked Honda and they had a 9.3. I want to see rantings of the products over their expected life span. With a care you need to come to me after 4 or 5 years and ask me what is good and what sucks. I laugh every time I hear about the JD Power Initial Quality ratings being cited by car companies and car dealerships. Two or three months with a car is not long enough to evaluate quality and if anything breaks in the first six months the car company should be forced to purchase the car back with interest. Toyota and Honda used to run neck and neck, it appears Honda has jumped ahead in the mid-size sedan. I have owned a Honda but never a Toyota. If Honda ever comes out with a Honda build truck, not that silly thing they are selling that people thing is a truck, I would buy one. |
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Bert Robbins wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... I suscribe to Consumer Reports and the main Toyota vehicles i would be interested in are always at the top of the pack. that is.. Sienna, Tundra, Corolla, Highlander, RAV4 and I expect the new RAV6 Consumer Reports has a "thing" with Toyota and has for years. Eisboch I have always been leary of CR, but when I looked at MSN consumer reviews, Toyota still had great reviews, a 8.1 from users. CR does not always test the items in the manner that they are used in over time. With small appliances the ratings are irrelevant due to the low purchase cost and the hight maintenance cost. The wife just go a new motor put into the vacuum cleaner for about $129 with $50 of it being labor. Most likely we should have bought a new one. One of the nice things about MSN Auto user reviews is you can look at the reviews for a specific brand and model for a specific year (ie your 4 or 5 yr old car). CR reviews are based upon a very limited sample. If they get a lemon to test, or they get a great product for their test, it does not necessary reflect what the majority of users will buy. |
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