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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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My lovely wife informed me the other day that she "really likes" the new
little Mustangs and might want to buy one.

She's looking at a 2007 "V6 Premium," with the 4 liter V6, 5-speed auto,
and anti-lock brakes with traction control, and a bunch of other
accessories. Our local dealer is more than willing to "make a deal."

Any thoughts about this vehicle as an "everyday car?" Most of my wife's
driving is suburban, with very few trips of more than, say, 50 miles.

I drove such a vehicle recently and thought the power-brakes-handling were
more than adequate. Any ideas about gas mileage, reliability, that sort of
thing?

I'd prefer she buy a new top of the line Toyota, but she wants something
sportier.

Wimmins!

She'll probably get similar mileage with the 4.7L V8 and it'll make it a
lot "sportier".

Eisboch

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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My lovely wife informed me the other day that she "really likes" the new
little Mustangs and might want to buy one.

She's looking at a 2007 "V6 Premium," with the 4 liter V6, 5-speed auto,
and anti-lock brakes with traction control, and a bunch of other
accessories. Our local dealer is more than willing to "make a deal."

Wimmins!


She'll probably get similar mileage with the 4.7L V8 and it'll make it a
lot "sportier".

Eisboch


Goofed. It's a 4.6L

Eisboch

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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I'd still rather she went with a Toyota.

Toyota has gone almost full circle. They are currently in the recovery
phase of poor quality, numerous recalls and the decline of their good
reputation. Just like the American automobile industry did.

Eisboch

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Harry Krause wrote:
On 10/13/2006 11:25 AM, Eisboch wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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I'd still rather she went with a Toyota.


Toyota has gone almost full circle. They are currently in the
recovery phase of poor quality, numerous recalls and the decline of
their good reputation. Just like the American automobile industry did.

Eisboch



I suppose. I have a 2004 on which I have not had to spend a nickel,
beyond normal maintenance items. Nothing has broken or even worked loose.

I suscribe to Consumer Reports and the main Toyota vehicles i would be
interested in are always at the top of the pack.
that is.. Sienna, Tundra, Corolla, Highlander, RAV4 and I expect the new
RAV6

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"Don White" wrote in message
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I suscribe to Consumer Reports and the main Toyota vehicles i would be
interested in are always at the top of the pack.
that is.. Sienna, Tundra, Corolla, Highlander, RAV4 and I expect the new
RAV6

Consumer Reports has a "thing" with Toyota and has for years.

Eisboch

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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I'd still rather she went with a Toyota.

Toyota has gone almost full circle. They are currently in the recovery
phase of poor quality, numerous recalls and the decline of their good
reputation. Just like the American automobile industry did.

Eisboch


Yeah, but it didn't take Toyota 25 years, including a period of denial and
depending on stupid appeals to patriotism.

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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I suscribe to Consumer Reports and the main Toyota vehicles i would be
interested in are always at the top of the pack.
that is.. Sienna, Tundra, Corolla, Highlander, RAV4 and I expect the new
RAV6

Consumer Reports has a "thing" with Toyota and has for years.

Eisboch


Yeah. The "thing" is that when they compare brand new cars, they still find
more little defects in GM, Ford & Chrysler cars. Even if it's just a crooked
kick panel, it should make people wonder what else was done carelessly.

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Eisboch wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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I'd still rather she went with a Toyota.


Toyota has gone almost full circle. They are currently in the recovery
phase of poor quality, numerous recalls and the decline of their good
reputation. Just like the American automobile industry did.

Eisboch



Could be in part that Toyota is as American as many "American" cars
these days, many are built here now. That said I've been impressed with
the fit & finish of the ones I've dealt with. Only real nag was the V6
offered in the mid 90s that liked to blow head gaskets, the 4 was damn
near indestructible if a bit underpowered. Friend of mine is on his 3rd
set of head gaskets and looking into swapping in the redesigned later V6.

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Yeah. The "thing" is that when they compare brand new cars, they still find
more little defects in GM, Ford & Chrysler cars. Even if it's just a crooked
kick panel, it should make people wonder what else was done carelessly.




I noticed a lot of little nags like that on a rental Ford. It really is
a shame, I'd love to be proud of cars built in this country, at one
point in time we built the best stuff in the world, now it's a miracle
we can build anything at all. Heck by the time I got to highschool the
metal and wood shops had already been shut down. Everything is being
outsourced and everyone is so obsessed with buying the absolute cheapest
anything. It's getting hard to find quality tools even, brand names are
largely irrelevant, reputable names often nothing beyond stickers
slapped on the latest Chinese junk.

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Yeah. The "thing" is that when they compare brand new cars, they still
find more little defects in GM, Ford & Chrysler cars. Even if it's just a
crooked kick panel, it should make people wonder what else was done
carelessly.


I noticed a lot of little nags like that on a rental Ford. It really is a
shame, I'd love to be proud of cars built in this country, at one point in
time we built the best stuff in the world, now it's a miracle we can build
anything at all. Heck by the time I got to highschool the metal and wood
shops had already been shut down. Everything is being outsourced and
everyone is so obsessed with buying the absolute cheapest anything. It's
getting hard to find quality tools even, brand names are largely
irrelevant, reputable names often nothing beyond stickers slapped on the
latest Chinese junk.

I test drove a Dodge sedan - the big one - I forget the name. The panel
under the steering wheel fell off completely when I went over a bump. The
factory forgot to put the speed clips over the plastic tabs. There was
nothing for the sheet metal screws to thread into. How the thing stayed on
that long, I have no idea.