On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 12:10:56 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Consumer Reports has a "thing" with Toyota and has for years.

Well, I'm a bit prejudiced I suppose since we've had two Corollas, a
Camry, and a Tundra. All have been great vehicles. The two Corollas
went close to, or over, 200K miles and were still running when we
sold them. The '92 Camry is at 200K and is still being driven by my
youngest son every day in and out of NYC. It still looks good and
runs well.

The 2002 Tundra is a youngster at 60K miles and is showing every sign
of lasting longer than I will.

I think Consumer Reports is right on the money with Toyota.

Eisboch wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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My lovely wife informed me the other day that she "really likes" the new
little Mustangs and might want to buy one.

She's looking at a 2007 "V6 Premium," with the 4 liter V6, 5-speed auto,
and anti-lock brakes with traction control, and a bunch of other
accessories. Our local dealer is more than willing to "make a deal."

Wimmins!

She'll probably get similar mileage with the 4.7L V8 and it'll make it a
lot "sportier".

Eisboch


Goofed. It's a 4.6L

The need to put the Super Charged 5.4L V8 that they put in the F-150
Lighting's and chip it. Will most likely burn the rubber of the rear
tires before gaining traction.

One things Mustangs are good for when there is the slightest bit of
water, in all of its forms, and that is to look at them while they
remain parked.

Eisboch wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
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I suscribe to Consumer Reports and the main Toyota vehicles i would be
interested in are always at the top of the pack.
that is.. Sienna, Tundra, Corolla, Highlander, RAV4 and I expect the new
RAV6

Consumer Reports has a "thing" with Toyota and has for years.

Wasn't Consumer Reports involved in a little problem with selling
ratings or some other unethical practices a few years ago?

On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 20:20:28 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
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I suscribe to Consumer Reports and the main Toyota vehicles i would be
interested in are always at the top of the pack.
that is.. Sienna, Tundra, Corolla, Highlander, RAV4 and I expect the new
RAV6

Consumer Reports has a "thing" with Toyota and has for years.

Wasn't Consumer Reports involved in a little problem with selling
ratings or some other unethical practices a few years ago?

I've been taking CR for quite a while now, and I don't recall that. Any
info on it?

Bert Robbins wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
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I suscribe to Consumer Reports and the main Toyota vehicles i would
be interested in are always at the top of the pack.
that is.. Sienna, Tundra, Corolla, Highlander, RAV4 and I expect the
new RAV6


Consumer Reports has a "thing" with Toyota and has for years.


Wasn't Consumer Reports involved in a little problem with selling
ratings or some other unethical practices a few years ago?


Bull****!

JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 20:20:28 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:


Eisboch wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
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I suscribe to Consumer Reports and the main Toyota vehicles i would be
interested in are always at the top of the pack.
that is.. Sienna, Tundra, Corolla, Highlander, RAV4 and I expect the new
RAV6

Consumer Reports has a "thing" with Toyota and has for years.

Wasn't Consumer Reports involved in a little problem with selling
ratings or some other unethical practices a few years ago?


I've been taking CR for quite a while now, and I don't recall that. Any
info on it?


Bert is mixed up with the story about one of the smaller SUV
manufacturers complaining when CR said their vehicle was tipsy if driven
too fast into curves.

On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 01:53:03 GMT, Tom Francis wrote:

On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 01:32:38 GMT, Don White
wrote:

Bert Robbins wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
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I suscribe to Consumer Reports and the main Toyota vehicles i would
be interested in are always at the top of the pack.
that is.. Sienna, Tundra, Corolla, Highlander, RAV4 and I expect the
new RAV6

Consumer Reports has a "thing" with Toyota and has for years.

Wasn't Consumer Reports involved in a little problem with selling
ratings or some other unethical practices a few years ago?

Bull****!

No, Bert's right, but I think it was related to their methodology in
some fashion.

I seem to remember that there was a issue with working with
"purchased" cars that had been "tweaked" by engineers rather than just
walking into a show room and saying "we'll take that one" kind of a
thing.

It was a while back when it happened - maybe ten/twelve years ago or
so?

It wasn't a major issue - a kind of kerfuffle really over what was a
minor detail.

I do know that they seem to have a bias towards certain types of cars
and manufacturers.

They now buy their test vehicles off the lot just as you or I would,
according to them anyway. I would imagine they get watched pretty closely.

They seem biased towards Toyota, Honda, VW (the Passat, anyway), and a few
others who always seem to have vehicles in the top ten. Lately a Buick made
the top ten, a first (for many years anyway) for an American sedan.

It could be they're biased towards cars that perform well and are reliable.

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
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I suscribe to Consumer Reports and the main Toyota vehicles i would be
interested in are always at the top of the pack.
that is.. Sienna, Tundra, Corolla, Highlander, RAV4 and I expect the new
RAV6

Consumer Reports has a "thing" with Toyota and has for years.

Wasn't Consumer Reports involved in a little problem with selling ratings
or some other unethical practices a few years ago?

Consumer Reports ratings become a little suspect when they continue to rave
about a certain vehicle while the manufacturer is issuing massive recalls
and owners are complaining about quality issues. Toyota went through a
period of this (as do all manufacturers from time to time) but Consumer
Reports never blinked in their ratings.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
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I suscribe to Consumer Reports and the main Toyota vehicles i would be
interested in are always at the top of the pack.
that is.. Sienna, Tundra, Corolla, Highlander, RAV4 and I expect the new
RAV6

Consumer Reports has a "thing" with Toyota and has for years.

Eisboch



I have always been leary of CR, but when I looked at MSN consumer
reviews, Toyota still had great reviews, a 8.1 from users.

Then I checked Honda and they had a 9.3.

Toyota and Honda used to run neck and neck, it appears Honda has jumped
ahead in the mid-size sedan.

On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 08:40:26 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
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I suscribe to Consumer Reports and the main Toyota vehicles i would be
interested in are always at the top of the pack.
that is.. Sienna, Tundra, Corolla, Highlander, RAV4 and I expect the new
RAV6

Consumer Reports has a "thing" with Toyota and has for years.

Eisboch



I have always been leary of CR, but when I looked at MSN consumer
reviews, Toyota still had great reviews, a 8.1 from users.

Then I checked Honda and they had a 9.3.

Toyota and Honda used to run neck and neck, it appears Honda has jumped
ahead in the mid-size sedan.

I've found Consumer Reports online to be a valuable source of information
on a range of products.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/index.htm

It also makes me popular with family and friends who call wanting the
latest info!