"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
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Eisboch wrote:
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I had a Latin teacher who, in a past life, was a USMC drill
sergeant. He knew how to deal with ADD, even though it didn't have a
label yet in the 1960s (AFAIK). He'd get RIGHT IN a kid's face and
yell loud enough to blow the kid's hair straight back. Worked like a
charm. Everybody learned Latin.

That's the type of educators I remember and respect. Very effective
and no drugs involved.

Today, he'd be sued.

Kibosh
I had lots of great teachers in my K-12 years, but, fortunately, not
one was a former Marine who had failed to adjust to the real world. If
any teacher had pulled that on me, my father would have cold-cocked
him. Of course, if I had misbehaved in class, my father would have
done the same to me, or at least threatened to do so.
Bull****, Harry. The real world includes kids with behavior problems,
some of which are unrelated to any sort of syndrome with a name. If the
parents were doing their jobs, the kids wouldn't be behaving badly in
school. The job then falls to the teacher, who creates an environment
which benefits the majority. If that involves grinding a heel into one
or two wise guys, so be it. I know several from high school. They were
not damaged by being slammed on a regular basis, and they're now
well-adjusted people.

I think you just have a problem with what I wrote because it included
"USMC". But, it's a rare kid who doesn't need a "holy **** what just
happened" moment occasionally.

Nope. Teachers with anger management and aggression problems have no
place in the public schools. That former marine you referenced simply
did not have the proper skills to do his new job. If I had heard of a
teacher like that in my kids' schools, I would have led the parents'
effort to have him transferred out of the classroom. Perhaps "Detention
Class" would be the best place for him.

I wonder if that former marine uses the same tactics to "discipline" his
wife and kids? Betcha he does.

Actually, he was a very soft spoken guy 99.99% of the time, with a great
sense of humor and endless patience, until one or two kids asked for
trouble.


Well, then, he had the skills to handle discipline/inattentiveness
problems properly, but chose not to use them. "Grinding heels into wise
guys" is not how teachers are supposed to behave in the classroom.

Sure it is. And, he only needed to do it once or twice, and things changed
permanently. There are some people you cannot reason with. You know: The
54%. Some of them manage to sneak into Latin classes and advanced placement
courses.