Global Warming: It Has Stopped
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message

To tell you the truth, Bert, I rarely look into your toilet bowl. I figure
if you posted it, no matter the subject, it absolutely, positively has to
be b.s.

Have a nice day and no need to respond; I'm unlikely to read it.

.......unlike Bert's first post, to which you responded in (count 'em) *4*
minutes; or his reply to you, to which you responded in a mere 1:15.

That's a pretty amazing display for someone who doesn't even read Bert's
missives.

I'm impressed.

LOL

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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message

You might be right, or you might be wrong. However, here's an analogy.
Your doctor says you have a brain tumor. You tell him ........

HA!!

Crapola, Dougie-Boy! That's not an analogy, it's a High School debating
trick

Global Warming: It Has Stopped
 

"The constant cycles of cooling and warming has occurred for millions of
years. Why is the fact that we are in a heightened solar flare cycle and
both the Earth and Mars are getting warmer not of interest to you? What
caused the glaciers from the last ice age, over 10,000 years ago to thaw?
What caused those glaciers to form in the first place? Something you global
warming adherents fail to comprehend is that the planet does not exist alone
and that the Sun is an integral part of our existence and has a dramatic
effect on our planet and our own existence."
- Bert

Bert,
Does the ozone hole exhibit geologic cyclic behavior, also?
One of the things the Global Warming folks bring up is that the ozone hole
is getting bigger and that is, in part, attached to the claims of man-made
global warming.

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"Bryan" wrote in message
...
"The constant cycles of cooling and warming has occurred for millions of
years. Why is the fact that we are in a heightened solar flare cycle and
both the Earth and Mars are getting warmer not of interest to you? What
caused the glaciers from the last ice age, over 10,000 years ago to thaw?
What caused those glaciers to form in the first place? Something you
global
warming adherents fail to comprehend is that the planet does not exist
alone
and that the Sun is an integral part of our existence and has a dramatic
effect on our planet and our own existence."
- Bert

Bert,
Does the ozone hole exhibit geologic cyclic behavior, also?
One of the things the Global Warming folks bring up is that the ozone hole
is getting bigger and that is, in part, attached to the claims of man-made
global warming.



The enlarged ozone hole was blamed on the release of freon and other CFC's.
Since they were banned years ago, the ozone hole has gotten bigger.

RCE

Global Warming: It Has Stopped
 

"Bryan" wrote in message
...
"The constant cycles of cooling and warming has occurred for millions of
years. Why is the fact that we are in a heightened solar flare cycle and
both the Earth and Mars are getting warmer not of interest to you? What
caused the glaciers from the last ice age, over 10,000 years ago to thaw?
What caused those glaciers to form in the first place? Something you
global
warming adherents fail to comprehend is that the planet does not exist
alone
and that the Sun is an integral part of our existence and has a dramatic
effect on our planet and our own existence."
- Bert

Bert,
Does the ozone hole exhibit geologic cyclic behavior, also?
One of the things the Global Warming folks bring up is that the ozone hole
is getting bigger and that is, in part, attached to the claims of man-made
global warming.

No, the Ozone hole exhibits a cycle that almost coincides with the Earth's
solar year. The Ozone hole expands and contracts throughout the year. If the
Ozone hole had expanded at the rates initially reported then it would be the
size of the entire southern hemisphere by now.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Jeff Rigby wrote:
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...9/ixworld.html

It appears that one of the legacies of the Clinton administration is
that global warming stopped in 1998.

Raising hand I have a question! Are you the opinion that there
could never be any information which would convince you that we *are*
contributing to global warming, and might want to change a few living
habits?
There is no information at this time that would convince me that global
warming is a man made phenomena.
You might be right, or you might be wrong. However, here's an analogy.
Your doctor says you have a brain tumor. You tell him won't believe it's
dangerous until he shows you a petri dish on his desk containing a
tumor, from your head, the size of a bran muffin. Of course, by that
time, you'd be so messed up that you won't be able to comment on what
you're seeing.

No, the analogy should be; You have headaches and one doctor says you
have a brain tumor even though it doesn't show up on a CT scan, "it's too
small" says the doctor "to show up on a scan at this time but it will
kill you if left untreated". You go for a second opinion and that doctor
asks about your lifestyle, does and in-depth study and concludes that
it's probably related to your job as an amusement ride inspector but to
be on the safe side you should get a CT scan every 6 months for 2 years
to be sure. You can't quit your job ( you have a family to support) so
you follow the second doctors advice.

Doug, you call the second doctor a quack when that IS the reasonable
choice. The first doctor MAY be right but the evidence is not all in.
There may be a tumor caused by insult but it's not going to be malignant,
it's not going to grow or metastasize.


Interesting, but if certain posters here (and I am not hinting you are one
of those) claimed there was no connection between the activities of man
and global warming, I would dismiss those claims out of hand because of
the demonstrated pigheadedness and stupidity of those posters, and the
fact that they have their heads stuck up the butts of the US Chamber of
Commerce.

All things being equal the eco systems of the earth can handle increased
carbon dioxide in the air, in fact life will flourish as plants take up this
nutrient and algae and plants become more prolific. Short term we might
have a moderate increase in temperature, nothing like the 8 degree swings of
the past before we were a factor in planetary terms.

We should all be much more concerned with the OTHER pollutants like lead,
mercury, cadmium, radium and others that are going into the atmosphere from
coal fired power plants. As far as I am concerned the coal plants can
produce MORE carbon dioxide if they can eliminate the heavy metals from the
stack.

The global warming scare is a political shell game, it's crap.....Everyone's
attention is diverted from the REAL issues.

Harry, tell me why NO-ONE is concerned about these poisons. Why the
attention to a benign gas that IS part of the life cycle. IS NECESSARY for
life to flourish.... and no attention to elements that are not a part of the
life cycle, that pollute the food chain and KILL higher forms of life.

Do you think you are being manipulated Harry....think about it.... I know
we are and it makes me angry!

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"Jeff Rigby" wrote in message
...

Harry, tell me why NO-ONE is concerned about these poisons.

Not true, Jeff. The article below is dumbed down a bit for mass consumption,
and focuses primarily on global warming. But, the groups behind Spitzer's
efforts are equally focused on mercury and other contaminants.

http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/feb2...3-02-21-10.asp

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RCE wrote:
"Bryan" wrote in message
...

"The constant cycles of cooling and warming has occurred for millions of
years. Why is the fact that we are in a heightened solar flare cycle and
both the Earth and Mars are getting warmer not of interest to you? What
caused the glaciers from the last ice age, over 10,000 years ago to thaw?
What caused those glaciers to form in the first place? Something you
global
warming adherents fail to comprehend is that the planet does not exist
alone
and that the Sun is an integral part of our existence and has a dramatic
effect on our planet and our own existence."
- Bert

Bert,
Does the ozone hole exhibit geologic cyclic behavior, also?
One of the things the Global Warming folks bring up is that the ozone hole
is getting bigger and that is, in part, attached to the claims of man-made
global warming.




The enlarged ozone hole was blamed on the release of freon and other CFC's.
Since they were banned years ago, the ozone hole has gotten bigger.

RCE





We didn't even know about the ozone hole until 1984. We haven't enough
data to know if it has geologic cycles or not. Or even if it has always
existed or just appeared as a result of CFC's breaking down ozone (which
was the theory of the time, which was presented as fact, much the way
global climate models are presented as fact these days)

I have seen almost NO science about climate change. Even in journals
like Nature, climatology has become polluted by politics.

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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Jeff Rigby" wrote in message
...

Harry, tell me why NO-ONE is concerned about these poisons.

Not true, Jeff. The article below is dumbed down a bit for mass
consumption, and focuses primarily on global warming. But, the groups
behind Spitzer's efforts are equally focused on mercury and other
contaminants.

http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/feb2...3-02-21-10.asp
Yes, read the article. It makes my point. The uninformed, Democrats,
Liberals, Everyone but Lieberman (a rational democrat) is concerned about
carbon dioxide. Lieberman is concerned with mercury emissions. As I've
said before, I'd vote for him for president even though I'm a Republican.
Bush is implementing mercury emission standards but he is SLOWLY
implementing them. I'm not happy about that.

Global Warming: It Has Stopped
 

"Jeff Rigby" wrote in message
. ..

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Jeff Rigby" wrote in message
...

Harry, tell me why NO-ONE is concerned about these poisons.

Not true, Jeff. The article below is dumbed down a bit for mass
consumption, and focuses primarily on global warming. But, the groups
behind Spitzer's efforts are equally focused on mercury and other
contaminants.

http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/feb2...3-02-21-10.asp
Yes, read the article. It makes my point. The uninformed, Democrats,
Liberals, Everyone but Lieberman (a rational democrat) is concerned about
carbon dioxide. Lieberman is concerned with mercury emissions. As I've
said before, I'd vote for him for president even though I'm a Republican.
Bush is implementing mercury emission standards but he is SLOWLY
implementing them. I'm not happy about that.


When the monkey's staff refused to reveal the attendees at his so-called
"energy task force" meetings, did you find that odd, and write to his
sitters to complain?