If Dave M. were still in the market for a boat, I came across something
that would have appealed to him 6 or 7 years ago when he was in Seattle
doing some shopping.

I went up to LaConner today to see if I could find an interesting boat
for the NW Classics column of our magazine, and I hit paydirt. This is
a one-off world cruiser, full displacement hull, 30 tons of lead
ballast, no windows below the main deck, etc etc etc.(The boat itself
isn't truly a classic, but the design and concept most certainly is) I
took a bunch of photos and notes to build an article around, but here's
a link to the broker's web site where one could get a look at the boat.

http://www.laconneryachtsales.com/co...=laconnerys &

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If Dave M. were still in the market for a boat, I came across something
that would have appealed to him 6 or 7 years ago when he was in Seattle
doing some shopping.

I went up to LaConner today to see if I could find an interesting boat
for the NW Classics column of our magazine, and I hit paydirt. This is
a one-off world cruiser, full displacement hull, 30 tons of lead
ballast, no windows below the main deck, etc etc etc.(The boat itself
isn't truly a classic, but the design and concept most certainly is) I
took a bunch of photos and notes to build an article around, but here's
a link to the broker's web site where one could get a look at the boat.

http://www.laconneryachtsales.com/co...=laconnerys &



How much will you give him on trade for his 22 foot '86 Bayliner? ;-)

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If Dave M. were still in the market for a boat, I came across something
that would have appealed to him 6 or 7 years ago when he was in Seattle
doing some shopping.


http://www.laconneryachtsales.com/co...=laconnerys &


Humphrey Bogart, where are you?

Eisboch

wrote:

I came across something that would have appealed to him 6 or 7 years
ago when he was in Seattle doing some shopping.

http://tinyurl.com/dkjym

So, for someone looking to cruise from the Gulf of Alaska to the Cortez
and avoid the return bash by diverting to Hawaii you'd recommend that
boat? Fascinating! Do you believe intended usage plays at all in boat
selection?

--
Skipper

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:58:08 -0600, Skipper wrote:

So, for someone looking to cruise from the Gulf of Alaska to the Cortez
and avoid the return bash by diverting to Hawaii you'd recommend that
boat? Fascinating! Do you believe intended usage plays at all in boat
selection?

What? The only thing missing in your case is the training wheels.

Skipper wrote:
wrote:

I came across something that would have appealed to him 6 or 7 years
ago when he was in Seattle doing some shopping.

http://tinyurl.com/dkjym

So, for someone looking to cruise from the Gulf of Alaska to the Cortez
and avoid the return bash by diverting to Hawaii you'd recommend that
boat? Fascinating! Do you believe intended usage plays at all in boat
selection?


Absolutely. What do you figure from Mexico to HI, 2500 miles? Maybe a
bit less? (Depends where you set out from, of course) Right now, with
1000 gallons, she's supposed to have an 1800 mile range. Add a pair of
250 gallon fuel tanks and a watermaker you're set. 70,000 lb
displacement, deep draft, full displacement hull? This is what a true
seagoing boat looks like. Even Beebe would probably approve. You could
skip the additional fuel tanks if you're only going to coastal cruise
and willing to forget about Hawaii. If you had to, you could sail this
thing with a jib.

I was aboard this boat today, and she's built hell for stout. People
make Hawaii all the time in little mass-pro sailboats that couldn't
hold a candle to this trawler.

wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/dkjym

So, for someone looking to cruise from the Gulf of Alaska to the Cortez
and avoid the return bash by diverting to Hawaii you'd recommend that
boat? Fascinating! Do you believe intended usage plays at all in boat
selection?

Absolutely. What do you figure from Mexico to HI, 2500 miles? Maybe a
bit less? (Depends where you set out from, of course) Right now, with
1000 gallons, she's supposed to have an 1800 mile range. Add a pair of
250 gallon fuel tanks and a watermaker you're set. 70,000 lb
displacement, deep draft, full displacement hull? This is what a true
seagoing boat looks like.

To your eye maybe, but not mine. AND I suppose it does depend on what
your definition of is is. While the boat is pleasing to the eye, it is
not the best choice for the stated usage. It's a boat better suited for
inward passage cruising, IMO. Suspect you may have fallen victim to a
bit of stableblindness here, Chuck.

I'll mention just a few of the obvious problems with your choice of the
best boat for the stated usage:

1- Fuel costs for this vessel is about $200+ per day. That can add up
rather quickly on a voyage from Tracy Arm to Mazatlan. Sail might be the
more prudent choice.

2- I believe roll could well be a problem offshore with that boat's
unstablized rounded bottom.

3- Only having one (1) head on long voyages is more of risk than I'd
like to assume.

4- The boat is well short of the amenities needed for such a voyage.
Ground tackle also seems substandard for the intended usage. That
$225,000 asking would only be the starting point to equip this boat for
offshore passagemaking.

There are other shortcomings that would disqualify this boat for subject
passagemaking, but let me note it DOES have some very good things going
for it as a Northwaste boat. Dry stack, keel cooler, woodburner in the
master are a few of the attractions for someone doing your type of
boating.

--
Skipper

Skipper wrote:
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/dkjym

So, for someone looking to cruise from the Gulf of Alaska to the Cortez
and avoid the return bash by diverting to Hawaii you'd recommend that
boat? Fascinating! Do you believe intended usage plays at all in boat
selection?

Absolutely. What do you figure from Mexico to HI, 2500 miles? Maybe a
bit less? (Depends where you set out from, of course) Right now, with
1000 gallons, she's supposed to have an 1800 mile range. Add a pair of
250 gallon fuel tanks and a watermaker you're set. 70,000 lb
displacement, deep draft, full displacement hull? This is what a true
seagoing boat looks like.

To your eye maybe, but not mine. AND I suppose it does depend on what
your definition of is is. While the boat is pleasing to the eye, it is
not the best choice for the stated usage. It's a boat better suited for
inward passage cruising, IMO. Suspect you may have fallen victim to a
bit of stableblindness here, Chuck.

I'll mention just a few of the obvious problems with your choice of the
best boat for the stated usage:

1- Fuel costs for this vessel is about $200+ per day. That can add up
rather quickly on a voyage from Tracy Arm to Mazatlan. Sail might be the
more prudent choice.

2- I believe roll could well be a problem offshore with that boat's
unstablized rounded bottom.

3- Only having one (1) head on long voyages is more of risk than I'd
like to assume.

4- The boat is well short of the amenities needed for such a voyage.
Ground tackle also seems substandard for the intended usage. That
$225,000 asking would only be the starting point to equip this boat for
offshore passagemaking.

There are other shortcomings that would disqualify this boat for subject
passagemaking, but let me note it DOES have some very good things going
for it as a Northwaste boat. Dry stack, keel cooler, woodburner in the
master are a few of the attractions for someone doing your type of
boating.

--
Skipper
Skipper,
Give us a link of your ideal boat within your price range.

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************

Q. What's the difference between a brown-noser and a ****-head?
A. Depth perception.
************************************************** *************

wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/dkjym


Thanks for the link, Chuck. Interesting boat, if it weren't
on the opposite coast I'd go take a look myself.


..... 70,000 lb
displacement, deep draft, full displacement hull? This is what a true
seagoing boat looks like.


That's not a boat, it's a ship.

Skipper wrote:
To your eye maybe, but not mine. AND I suppose it does depend on what
your definition of is is. While the boat is pleasing to the eye, it is
not the best choice for the stated usage. It's a boat better suited for
inward passage cruising, IMO. Suspect you may have fallen victim to a
bit of stableblindness here, Chuck.


???

Given reasonable structural integrity, that particular boat
looks quite seaworthy to my eye as well.

I'll mention just a few of the obvious problems with your choice of the
best boat for the stated usage:

1- Fuel costs for this vessel is about $200+ per day.

Uh huh. And in a ~50' 30 ton power vessel, what would you
expect for fuel consumption? Unless you're willing to go 5
knots it's very unlikely you'll do any better in any type hull.


.... Sail might be the
more prudent choice.


Yeah, but then you'd have to learn to sail.

2- I believe roll could well be a problem offshore with that boat's
unstablized rounded bottom.


It might be uncomfortable to a landlubber, but if the boat
is ballasted as stated, there is no question of it's
stability. I'd rather have a boat that rolled & had good
reserve stability that one that jerked & slammed, and might
flip bottom-up from a very shallow angle.


3- Only having one (1) head on long voyages is more of risk than I'd
like to assume.


Yeah many lives are lost at sea that way....

I suppose the issue of proper maintenance on the head would
never occur to you? What about the boat's other equipment,
like a single engine?

4- The boat is well short of the amenities needed for such a voyage.
Ground tackle also seems substandard for the intended usage. That
$225,000 asking would only be the starting point to equip this boat for
offshore passagemaking.


I think Chuck tried to make this point to you earlier when
you were griping that he couldn't find you a boat for your
desired price.



Reggie Smithers wrote:
Skipper,
Give us a link of your ideal boat within your price range.


What he said.

Regards
Doug King

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oups.com...
If Dave M. were still in the market for a boat, I came across something
that would have appealed to him 6 or 7 years ago when he was in Seattle
doing some shopping.

I went up to LaConner today to see if I could find an interesting boat
for the NW Classics column of our magazine, and I hit paydirt. This is
a one-off world cruiser, full displacement hull, 30 tons of lead
ballast, no windows below the main deck, etc etc etc.(The boat itself
isn't truly a classic, but the design and concept most certainly is) I
took a bunch of photos and notes to build an article around, but here's
a link to the broker's web site where one could get a look at the boat.


http://www.laconneryachtsales.com/co...=laconnerys &


So....what the heck are the masts for? Nice interior. The
exterior....well....it would have to grow on me, like cancer. ;

-Greg