"Melissa" wrote in message
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Hi riverman,

On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:41:15 +0800, you wrote:

Oh yeah? Its been a desire of mine for many years to get printed in
a trade magazine; even better yet to get paid something for it.
You'd think after all these years of river stories, someone would
have contacted me...

HEY, MAGAZINE EDITORS!! I'M HERE, READY AND WILLING!

Be careful what you wish for! :-)

A few years ago, I was contacted by a supposedly
"outdoor/conservationist" magazine (based in NYC) to write a feature
article about my experiences paddling with the resident whales of my
local waters. The publisher sent me several copies of the magazine
(very glossy, and filled with advertising for the "upscale
conspicuous consumer"; with many of these items being quite
"environmentally unfriendly" in my view, even though their "target
consumer" was the "outdoor enthusiast").

Mags like Canadian Geographic struggle with this contradiction all the time.
A lot of their subscriber based would be people who are concerned about the
environment but who are also in middle and upper income territory, perfect
for shiny ads for big pollution spouting SUVs and the like. You need to make
money to run the magazine, yet at the same time you don't want to offend the
readership. A tricky business.

Copyright laws force me to mention that KMAN said:
"Mags like Canadian Geographic struggle with this contradiction all the
time.
A lot of their subscriber based would be people who are concerned about
the
environment but who are also in middle and upper income territory,
perfect
for shiny ads for big pollution spouting SUVs and the like. You need to
make
money to run the magazine, yet at the same time you don't want to
offend the
readership. A tricky business."

Its not just mags that struggle with this. When I was helping start the
WW Rafting industry in Maine back in the early 80s, the region where we
were boating was quite pristine, with no shops or paved roads, only
rustic campsites and a few fishermen. A part of our business was to
show the clientele this aspect of the Maine woods. But the very act of
creating a booming industry means that the roads were getting paved,
the rustic campgrounds were getting developed, new stores and hotels
sprung up, and the pristine aspect was being destroyed. The fact that
the vast majority of the clients were there specifically because they
LIKED pristine areas was bittersweet consolation for the damage they
were doing by just being there.

I don't know that there was an easy solution to this; after a bunch of
years debating with myself about my own role in the destruction of a
wonderful part of Maine, I had to leave the industry. Those who
remained didn't mind; they accepted the fact that once the genii was
let out of the bottle, there was no turning back. But I'd rather not
have that hanging on me.

I think I would have done the same as you, Melissa; if writing the
article about a place would have irevocably changed that area for the
worse, I agree that not writing the article is the best personal course
of action. Even if the article was going to be inevitably written, and
someone was going to make good money off of it.

--riverman

Hi All,

Great to see that rbp is still around with lots of familar faces. I
left Atlanta a few years ago and the computer Scott B. built for me has
never been able to get back on to the net - and it took me this long to
find rpb again on my new computer.

As I see it - the bottom line is Drowing SUCKS!!!!!!

Julie (used to be Keller now Fitzpatrick)
rpb clique #69!

Hi Julie,

It's been a long time. 5 years now since we left Georgia and moved out
west. Can you believe we have a child now and another due in about a
month - and yes I'm still paddling with this huge beach ball of a stomach
but just taking things a little easier!! It's good to see a familiar face
on RBP. It got pretty dead there for a while and I didn't post for a long
time but always kept lurking. I hope you're doing well. Let us know the
next time you make it out this way.

Courtney & Jimmy

"JulieKeller.com" wrote in message
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Hi All,

Great to see that rbp is still around with lots of familar faces. I
left Atlanta a few years ago and the computer Scott B. built for me has
never been able to get back on to the net - and it took me this long to
find rpb again on my new computer.

As I see it - the bottom line is Drowing SUCKS!!!!!!

Julie (used to be Keller now Fitzpatrick)
rpb clique #69!

"JulieKeller.com" wrote in message
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Hi All,

Great to see that rbp is still around with lots of familar faces. I
left Atlanta a few years ago and the computer Scott B. built for me has
never been able to get back on to the net - and it took me this long to
find rpb again on my new computer.

As I see it - the bottom line is Drowing SUCKS!!!!!!

Julie (used to be Keller now Fitzpatrick)
rpb clique #69!


Hey Julie:
Nice to see some familiar typing! Wow, you got married! :-)

--riverman
rbp clique #2

JulieKeller.com wrote:

Great to see that rbp is still around with lots of familar faces. I
left Atlanta a few years ago and the computer Scott B. built for me has
never been able to get back on to the net - and it took me this long to
find rpb again on my new computer. Julie (now) Fitzpatrick, rpb #69

Welcome back, Julie! Hope your photography business is doing well.
I hadn't seen the Whitewater Open Canoe Nationals on the Blackfoot river
in Montana, pictures you put up over a year ago. Nice.

http://juliekeller.com/rt_WWOC2004.htm

I still can't figure out how to read the kayak forum on Boatertalk.com
without impacting my day job, so RBP is my token boating newsgroup.

As I see it - the bottom line is Drowing SUCKS!!!!!!

In more than one way!

"JulieKeller.com" wrote in message
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Hey Julie,

How are ya!?

Rebecca Lightning

Wow, this is a freakin' reunion!

Heya Julie!

"JulieKeller.com" wrote in message
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Hi All,

Great to see that rbp is still around with lots of familar faces. I
left Atlanta a few years ago and the computer Scott B. built for me has
never been able to get back on to the net - and it took me this long to
find rpb again on my new computer.

As I see it - the bottom line is Drowing SUCKS!!!!!!

Julie (used to be Keller now Fitzpatrick)
rpb clique #69!

OK I'm here as well!

In message , Socemdog
writes
Wow, this is a freakin' reunion!

Heya Julie!

"JulieKeller.com" wrote in message
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Hi All,

Great to see that rbp is still around with lots of familar faces. I
left Atlanta a few years ago and the computer Scott B. built for me has
never been able to get back on to the net - and it took me this long to
find rpb again on my new computer.

As I see it - the bottom line is Drowing SUCKS!!!!!!

Julie (used to be Keller now Fitzpatrick)
rpb clique #69!




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Dave Manby