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In Derek Hutchinson’s book, “The Complete Book of Sea Kayaking”, on page
48 while talking about nose clips he states “…in some cases sudden death
has been caused by water being driven up the nose”. Really? It makes
it sound like we cheat death by not wearing a nose plug.

IMO the book is less than impressive, some interesting material, but a
lot of “look at me” stuff like he wants to score points to nail some
kayaking chicks.

Has anyone heard of death by water being driven up the nose while
kayaking?
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Andy Baxter wrote:
In Derek Hutchinson's book, "The Complete Book of Sea Kayaking", on page
48 while talking about nose clips he states "...in some cases sudden death
has been caused by water being driven up the nose". Really? It makes
it sound like we cheat death by not wearing a nose plug.


snip

Has anyone heard of death by water being driven up the nose while
kayaking?


Nope, I did read about death by water in the lungs occurring hours
later, up to a day after the victim had gotten (even a little bit of)
water in their lungs. But sudden death?

Wilko

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In message .com,
Wilko writes
Andy Baxter wrote:
In Derek Hutchinson's book, "The Complete Book of Sea Kayaking", on page
48 while talking about nose clips he states "...in some cases sudden death
has been caused by water being driven up the nose". Really? It makes
it sound like we cheat death by not wearing a nose plug.


snip

Has anyone heard of death by water being driven up the nose while
kayaking?


Nope, I did read about death by water in the lungs occurring hours
later, up to a day after the victim had gotten (even a little bit of)
water in their lungs. But sudden death?


Aka secondary drowning



Wilko

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http://kayaker.nl/


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"Andy Baxter" wrote in message
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In Derek Hutchinson’s book, “The Complete Book of Sea Kayaking”, on page
48 while talking about nose clips he states “…in some cases sudden death
has been caused by water being driven up the nose”. Really? It makes it
sound like we cheat death by not wearing a nose plug.

IMO the book is less than impressive, some interesting material, but a lot
of “look at me” stuff like he wants to score points to nail some kayaking
chicks.

Has anyone heard of death by water being driven up the nose while
kayaking?


LOL. I have that book, I think. Is that the one where he tells the story of
the old guy who points out to him that the boat a few miles offshore is
being pushed sideways? Ach noooo....she's movin' sideways!

As for the "look at me" attitude, hell's bells, welcome to rec.boats.paddle.


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KMAN wrote:
"Andy Baxter" wrote in message
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In Derek Hutchinson's book, "The Complete Book of Sea Kayaking", on page
48 while talking about nose clips he states "...in some cases sudden death
has been caused by water being driven up the nose". Really? It makes it
sound like we cheat death by not wearing a nose plug.

IMO the book is less than impressive, some interesting material, but a lot
of "look at me" stuff like he wants to score points to nail some kayaking
chicks.

Has anyone heard of death by water being driven up the nose while
kayaking?



never heard of this. i suppose one could be driven to gag, vomit, then
aspirate acidic fluid to get severe enough bronchoconstriction to
suffocate. this is highly unlikely, though. the lungs are *very* good
about keeping water out. in many cases people drown, not by inhaling
water, but simply by being underwater with closed lungs.

sounds like a bit of urban (or not so urban) legend.



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On Soulboater.com this (German language) article was postet recently:

http://www.soulboater.com/sbt2004/co...=7805&lang=deu

Below the translated text of the sea kayaker magazine, a doctor
explains what happens if you (almost) get water in your lungs. He talks
about "dry drowning" and a near drowning where in the case of the "dry
drowning" the "Laryngospasmus" in the victim causes to shut off all air
to the lungs. This usually also causes a lot of water to go to the
stomach.

The other situation of the "near drowning", the doctor mentions clear
and sal****er "near drownings".

Some other articles about the effects of near drowning:

http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic744.htm

http://scuba-doc.com/hypoth.htm
(a bit down the page is about "near drowning")

Just because you haven't heard of it doesn't mean it doesn't exist...
:-)

Wilko

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LOL. Open mouth, insert foot.

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Unfortunately I'm familiar with this since it's what happened to me back in
1996. Strangely though, it was the most peaceful feeling I had ever had in
my life when I quit breathing. Coming back to was the scary part.

Courtney


"Wilko" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Soulboater.com this (German language) article was postet recently:


http://www.soulboater.com/sbt2004/co...=7805&lang=deu

Below the translated text of the sea kayaker magazine, a doctor
explains what happens if you (almost) get water in your lungs. He talks
about "dry drowning" and a near drowning where in the case of the "dry
drowning" the "Laryngospasmus" in the victim causes to shut off all air
to the lungs. This usually also causes a lot of water to go to the
stomach.

The other situation of the "near drowning", the doctor mentions clear
and sal****er "near drownings".

Some other articles about the effects of near drowning:

http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic744.htm

http://scuba-doc.com/hypoth.htm
(a bit down the page is about "near drowning")

Just because you haven't heard of it doesn't mean it doesn't exist...
:-)

Wilko

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Eindhoven The Netherlands Europe
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http://kayaker.nl/



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Didn't we have a long thread here about 6 years back about near-death
drowning experiences folks here had had?

--riverman

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In Derek Hutchinson’s book, “The Complete Book of Sea Kayaking”, on page
48 while talking about nose clips he states “…in some cases sudden death
has been caused by water being driven up the nose”. Really? It makes it
sound like we cheat death by not wearing a nose plug.

IMO the book is less than impressive, some interesting material, but a lot
of “look at me” stuff like he wants to score points to nail some kayaking
chicks.

Has anyone heard of death by water being driven up the nose while
kayaking?


Considering how often whitewater kayakers roll, and I've never heard of a
single case of a kayaker dying like that, I suspect it's total BS. Sure,
there's always a comfort factor--getting water up your nose is not fun, but
it won't kill you. (You might cough and sputter a bit after rolling, but
you'll be alive!)

-Paul




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