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![]() wrote in message ups.com... Anybody else notice how the corrupt liberal media has failed to report on the massacre going on in China right now? Of course they wont report it because this would tarnish the image of the system they love so much. I checked with a source, in Asia, and found that only two were killed and several wounded. It seems that the villagers attacked the police and some resisted arrest while others were prepared to "fire bomb" the police. Perhaps the killings were justified???? Here is another report from the "news blaze" Radio Free Asia. Chinese Police Fire on Protesters, Killing At Least Two By Radio Free Asia HONG KONG - At least two villagers in China's southern province of Guangdong have died after police fired on a crowd protesting the construction of a wind power plant, Radio Free Asia (RFA) reports. Witnesses told RFA's Mandarin service that by 9:30 p.m. Tuesday, villagers Jiang Hu and Jiang Guanji had died in the local hospital while a third, identified as Tang Daxiang, was receiving emergency treatment. Dongzhou Hospital authorities near the city of Shanwei confirmed two deaths and one wounded undergoing treatment, but they declined to give names. "At least four villagers have died," another villager said at approximately 11:30 p.m. "There is a dead body on the street yet to be retrieved. Many are wounded by gunshots. I don't know what kind of guns. I just know they were using real bullets on us. No policemen were wounded." "The hospital has become a virtual funeral hall with family members of the dead crying," one villager told reporter Ding Xiao. "They were bleeding. One was hit in the head, one in the foot, and one in the torso. They have been rushed to Dongzhou Hospital. We have prepared detonators. We're ready to fight," another said. Riot police sent According to several eyewitness accounts, hundreds of riot police moved into the site of the wind power plant Monday after a long-simmering dispute over how much villagers should be paid for land slated to become a wind-power plant. Around midday Tuesday, three representatives from Dongzhou village went to the site to see what was happening. The three villagers were immediately detained, witnesses said. Shortly after 5 p.m., thousands of villagers showed up at the site of the plant and demanded the release of the three representatives, they said. Police stationed inside the power plant fired tear gas at the crowd but caused no serious injuries. Later Tuesday, authorities dispatched several hundred more riot police to the site of the plant but they were stopped outside Dongzhou village by villagers. "We are really scared. We need your help. The riot police are at the entrance of our village. There are several hundred of them, between 400 and 500," one villager said in an interview that was cut off several times. No answer, no comment from officials "They were firing shots. But they were afraid to move in. We had blocked the roads with water pipes, gasoline and detonators," another villager said. "And there were about 10,000 villagers there. We tried calling the central government several times for help. But all we got was answering machines." Riot police have now crashed through roadblocks set up by villagers and dismantled their tents near the power plant. Villagers have retreated back to Dongzhou village, they said. Li Min, deputy mayor of Shanwei and chief of public security, asked to comment by phone, said only, "I don't know" and hung up. Guangdong provincial public security offices and the Guangdong provincial government went unanswered. A duty officer at the Dongzhou police station said, "I am not familiar with the situation." Asked to confirm that two villagers had died, he said, "There is no such thing," and hung up. Local sources said construction began on a wind-power plant several months ago but halted amid a dispute over land compensation. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Radio Free Asia is a private, nonprofit corporation that broadcasts news and information to listeners in those East Asian countries where full, accurate, and timely news reports are unavailable. RFA adheres to the highest standards of journalism and strives for accuracy, balance, and fairness in its editorial content. RFA is funded by an annual grant from the nonprofit Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG). |
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![]() "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Dan J.S." wrote in message ... "tacoexpress" wrote in message oups.com... I'm curious then where you adopted the term "liberal media bias" or is that simply your own perception? It's the truth... the media has taken upon a lot of Marxist views when contrasting with today's events. e.g. ================================================= http://right-wing-b.s./bmrls How the ACLU and other secularist Grinches have almost stolen Christmas - and how you can fight back now The War on Christmas by John Gibson "Happy holidays!" Every time a supermarket checker or store clerk greets you with those words instead of "Merry Christmas," you have met another soldier in the war against Christmas. Secularists are bent on imposing upon us a neutered, secular winter holiday that throws out every trace of Christianity from the public observance of Christmas. It's all necessary, they tell us, to avoid offending non-Christians and, above all, to keep from violating the all-important separation of church and state. Meanwhile, Christians in America are increasingly marginalized and shunted aside. In The War On Christmas: How the Conspiracy to Subvert Our Most Sacred Holiday Is Worse Than You Thought, popular FOX News anchor John Gibson reveals that this is not happening because of some cultural consensus. On the contrary, he explains that a thorough and virulent anti-Christmas campaign is being waged today by liberal activists, ACLU fanatics, craven politicians, sinister agenda-driven educators, and witless media mavens. But for all their efforts, the Grinches have not won: plucky Christians are already fighting to retake their place in the public square. Gibson reveals just how bad things have become: in Illinois, state government workers were forbidden to say "Merry Christmas" while at work. In Rhode Island, local officials banned Christians from participating in a public project to decorate the lawn of City Hall. A New Jersey school banned even instrumental versions of traditional Christmas carols. And Arizona school officials ruled it unconstitutional for a student to make any reference to the religious history of Christmas in a class project. But according to Gibson, despite what the ACLU says, all of this is completely unnecessary from a genuine Constitutional perspective: the last thing on the Founding Fathers' mind when they wrote that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" was the banning of all public celebration of Christmas. What's more, the Left's campaign to infringe upon Christians' free exercise of their religion has not achieved total victory. Gibson shows how millions of Americans are starting to fight back against the secularist forces and liberal local officials. He shows you how you can help save Christmas from being twisted beyond recognition. The War on Christmas is a perfect gift for all those who want to restore Christianity to its rightful place in American public life -- give it to them with a hearty "Merry Christmas!" The War on Christmas reveals: - Proof: Christmas is under attack in such a sustained and strategized manner that there is without any doubt a war on Christmas - How the Constitutional concept of non-establishment of a religion has been twisted into a hostility to Christianity that is itself quite obviously unconstitutional - Common sight in American public schools every December: Hanukkah and Kwanza decorations proliferating everywhere, but nary a mention of Christmas - How the war on Christmas is not just being fought in loony-left blue state strongholds, but in the American heartland - The ACLU, ADL, and Americans for the Separation of Church and State: how they provide the legal muscle and contorted logic to anti-Christmas warriors while looking approvingly on public expressions of Islam, Hinduism, and Judaism - The ridiculous lengths to which the ACLU has gone in its war against Christmas and its quest to remove all vestiges of Christianity from public life -- including its argument that a rural Georgia school calendar that contained the word "Christmas" represented state endorsement of Christianity and was thus unconstitutional - Amateur constitutionalists who occupy positions of power in America, and are making up the law as they go along (often after being intimidated by the ACLU) - The ACLU lawyer who, on his lunch break, inspected a Christmas tree that had been set up in the Pennsylvania state capitol and found, among its thousand ornaments, three that were cross-shaped -- and promptly filed suit - How liberals stir up fears of aggressive Christians' turning public schools into religious organizations and America into a theocracy to gain support for their war on Christmas - How officials forbade a Texas schoolgirl to give other students goodie bags inscribed "Jesus is the reason for the season" - Roger Ailes: how he put identification breaks that wished viewers "Merry Christmas" on the air on Fox News stations -- to the shock and horror of the politically correct establishment - The throngs of lawyers who are now willing to take on the ACLU and defend Christmas - How Christmas has become the new litmus test of our nation's willingness to abide by its own Constitution, to make certain that people are free to express their religion without being told that they must keep their beliefs private and tucked out of sight ==================== Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night. ;-) A crock of absolute, complete, simple-minded right-wing crap. 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On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:03:51 -0500, Jim Carter wrote:
Radio Free Asia is a private, nonprofit corporation that broadcasts news and information to listeners in those East Asian countries where full, accurate, and timely news reports are unavailable. RFA adheres to the highest standards of journalism and strives for accuracy, balance, and fairness in its editorial content. RFA is funded by an annual grant from the nonprofit Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG). The BBC report is similar. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4517706.stm |
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![]() "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Dan J.S." wrote in message ... "tacoexpress" wrote in message oups.com... I'm curious then where you adopted the term "liberal media bias" or is that simply your own perception? It's the truth... the media has taken upon a lot of Marxist views when contrasting with today's events. e.g. ================================================= http://right-wing-b.s./bmrls How the ACLU This b.s. you're posting doesn't smell any better when you repost it. It Then why do you keep snipping it? Here is it again for you Harry. You may want to buy the book. ================================================= http://tinyurl.com/bmrls How the ACLU and other secularist Grinches have almost stolen Christmas - and how you can fight back now The War on Christmas by John Gibson "Happy holidays!" Every time a supermarket checker or store clerk greets you with those words instead of "Merry Christmas," you have met another soldier in the war against Christmas. Secularists are bent on imposing upon us a neutered, secular winter holiday that throws out every trace of Christianity from the public observance of Christmas. It's all necessary, they tell us, to avoid offending non-Christians and, above all, to keep from violating the all-important separation of church and state. Meanwhile, Christians in America are increasingly marginalized and shunted aside. In The War On Christmas: How the Conspiracy to Subvert Our Most Sacred Holiday Is Worse Than You Thought, popular FOX News anchor John Gibson reveals that this is not happening because of some cultural consensus. On the contrary, he explains that a thorough and virulent anti-Christmas campaign is being waged today by liberal activists, ACLU fanatics, craven politicians, sinister agenda-driven educators, and witless media mavens. But for all their efforts, the Grinches have not won: plucky Christians are already fighting to retake their place in the public square. Gibson reveals just how bad things have become: in Illinois, state government workers were forbidden to say "Merry Christmas" while at work. In Rhode Island, local officials banned Christians from participating in a public project to decorate the lawn of City Hall. A New Jersey school banned even instrumental versions of traditional Christmas carols. And Arizona school officials ruled it unconstitutional for a student to make any reference to the religious history of Christmas in a class project. But according to Gibson, despite what the ACLU says, all of this is completely unnecessary from a genuine Constitutional perspective: the last thing on the Founding Fathers' mind when they wrote that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" was the banning of all public celebration of Christmas. What's more, the Left's campaign to infringe upon Christians' free exercise of their religion has not achieved total victory. Gibson shows how millions of Americans are starting to fight back against the secularist forces and liberal local officials. He shows you how you can help save Christmas from being twisted beyond recognition. The War on Christmas is a perfect gift for all those who want to restore Christianity to its rightful place in American public life -- give it to them with a hearty "Merry Christmas!" The War on Christmas reveals: - Proof: Christmas is under attack in such a sustained and strategized manner that there is without any doubt a war on Christmas - How the Constitutional concept of non-establishment of a religion has been twisted into a hostility to Christianity that is itself quite obviously unconstitutional - Common sight in American public schools every December: Hanukkah and Kwanza decorations proliferating everywhere, but nary a mention of Christmas - How the war on Christmas is not just being fought in loony-left blue state strongholds, but in the American heartland - The ACLU, ADL, and Americans for the Separation of Church and State: how they provide the legal muscle and contorted logic to anti-Christmas warriors while looking approvingly on public expressions of Islam, Hinduism, and Judaism - The ridiculous lengths to which the ACLU has gone in its war against Christmas and its quest to remove all vestiges of Christianity from public life -- including its argument that a rural Georgia school calendar that contained the word "Christmas" represented state endorsement of Christianity and was thus unconstitutional - Amateur constitutionalists who occupy positions of power in America, and are making up the law as they go along (often after being intimidated by the ACLU) - The ACLU lawyer who, on his lunch break, inspected a Christmas tree that had been set up in the Pennsylvania state capitol and found, among its thousand ornaments, three that were cross-shaped -- and promptly filed suit - How liberals stir up fears of aggressive Christians' turning public schools into religious organizations and America into a theocracy to gain support for their war on Christmas - How officials forbade a Texas schoolgirl to give other students goodie bags inscribed "Jesus is the reason for the season" - Roger Ailes: how he put identification breaks that wished viewers "Merry Christmas" on the air on Fox News stations -- to the shock and horror of the politically correct establishment - The throngs of lawyers who are now willing to take on the ACLU and defend Christmas - How Christmas has become the new litmus test of our nation's willingness to abide by its own Constitution, to make certain that people are free to express their religion without being told that they must keep their beliefs private and tucked out of sight ==================== Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night. ;-) |
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![]() "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... thunder wrote: On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:03:51 -0500, Jim Carter wrote: Radio Free Asia is a private, nonprofit corporation that broadcasts news and information to listeners in those East Asian countries where full, accurate, and timely news reports are unavailable. RFA adheres to the highest standards of journalism and strives for accuracy, balance, and fairness in its editorial content. RFA is funded by an annual grant from the nonprofit Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG). The BBC report is similar. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4517706.stm Wow! Of course, they could have been Iraqis attending a wedding party next door to a building the US Air Force bombed. A book you may want to read Harry: ================================================= http://tinyurl.com/bmrls How the ACLU and other secularist Grinches have almost stolen Christmas - and how you can fight back now The War on Christmas by John Gibson "Happy holidays!" Every time a supermarket checker or store clerk greets you with those words instead of "Merry Christmas," you have met another soldier in the war against Christmas. Secularists are bent on imposing upon us a neutered, secular winter holiday that throws out every trace of Christianity from the public observance of Christmas. It's all necessary, they tell us, to avoid offending non-Christians and, above all, to keep from violating the all-important separation of church and state. Meanwhile, Christians in America are increasingly marginalized and shunted aside. In The War On Christmas: How the Conspiracy to Subvert Our Most Sacred Holiday Is Worse Than You Thought, popular FOX News anchor John Gibson reveals that this is not happening because of some cultural consensus. On the contrary, he explains that a thorough and virulent anti-Christmas campaign is being waged today by liberal activists, ACLU fanatics, craven politicians, sinister agenda-driven educators, and witless media mavens. But for all their efforts, the Grinches have not won: plucky Christians are already fighting to retake their place in the public square. Gibson reveals just how bad things have become: in Illinois, state government workers were forbidden to say "Merry Christmas" while at work. In Rhode Island, local officials banned Christians from participating in a public project to decorate the lawn of City Hall. A New Jersey school banned even instrumental versions of traditional Christmas carols. And Arizona school officials ruled it unconstitutional for a student to make any reference to the religious history of Christmas in a class project. But according to Gibson, despite what the ACLU says, all of this is completely unnecessary from a genuine Constitutional perspective: the last thing on the Founding Fathers' mind when they wrote that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" was the banning of all public celebration of Christmas. What's more, the Left's campaign to infringe upon Christians' free exercise of their religion has not achieved total victory. Gibson shows how millions of Americans are starting to fight back against the secularist forces and liberal local officials. He shows you how you can help save Christmas from being twisted beyond recognition. The War on Christmas is a perfect gift for all those who want to restore Christianity to its rightful place in American public life -- give it to them with a hearty "Merry Christmas!" The War on Christmas reveals: - Proof: Christmas is under attack in such a sustained and strategized manner that there is without any doubt a war on Christmas - How the Constitutional concept of non-establishment of a religion has been twisted into a hostility to Christianity that is itself quite obviously unconstitutional - Common sight in American public schools every December: Hanukkah and Kwanza decorations proliferating everywhere, but nary a mention of Christmas - How the war on Christmas is not just being fought in loony-left blue state strongholds, but in the American heartland - The ACLU, ADL, and Americans for the Separation of Church and State: how they provide the legal muscle and contorted logic to anti-Christmas warriors while looking approvingly on public expressions of Islam, Hinduism, and Judaism - The ridiculous lengths to which the ACLU has gone in its war against Christmas and its quest to remove all vestiges of Christianity from public life -- including its argument that a rural Georgia school calendar that contained the word "Christmas" represented state endorsement of Christianity and was thus unconstitutional - Amateur constitutionalists who occupy positions of power in America, and are making up the law as they go along (often after being intimidated by the ACLU) - The ACLU lawyer who, on his lunch break, inspected a Christmas tree that had been set up in the Pennsylvania state capitol and found, among its thousand ornaments, three that were cross-shaped -- and promptly filed suit - How liberals stir up fears of aggressive Christians' turning public schools into religious organizations and America into a theocracy to gain support for their war on Christmas - How officials forbade a Texas schoolgirl to give other students goodie bags inscribed "Jesus is the reason for the season" - Roger Ailes: how he put identification breaks that wished viewers "Merry Christmas" on the air on Fox News stations -- to the shock and horror of the politically correct establishment - The throngs of lawyers who are now willing to take on the ACLU and defend Christmas - How Christmas has become the new litmus test of our nation's willingness to abide by its own Constitution, to make certain that people are free to express their religion without being told that they must keep their beliefs private and tucked out of sight ==================== Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night. ;-) |
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![]() "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... thunder wrote: On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:03:51 -0500, Jim Carter wrote: Radio Free Asia is a private, nonprofit corporation that broadcasts news and information to listeners in those East Asian countries where full, accurate, and timely news reports are unavailable. RFA adheres to the highest standards of journalism and strives for accuracy, balance, and fairness in its editorial content. RFA is funded by an annual grant from the nonprofit Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG). The BBC report is similar. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4517706.stm Wow! Of course, they could have been Iraqis attending a wedding party next door to a building the US Air Force bombed. Harry, I purposely quoted the news clip from "Radio Free Asia" because it is very right wing. This is the station that is broadcasting reports for the CIA. It is also funded by the CIA. This was to counter the thread started that was saying reports are not taken seriously by the "liberal" media. Harry, check it out please....... Jim C. |
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On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:36:16 -0500, Jim Carter wrote:
Harry, I purposely quoted the news clip from "Radio Free Asia" because it is very right wing. This is the station that is broadcasting reports for the CIA. It is also funded by the CIA. This was to counter the thread started that was saying reports are not taken seriously by the "liberal" media. Harry, check it out please....... It's too early to say with any certainty the situation in China, but I have always been surprised at the violence in some Asian protests. IIRC, several demonstrations in S. Korea and Japan, the use of fire bombs were common. There was a protest over an airport, several years back, that had fire bombs used against the police almost daily. |
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![]() "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Dan J.S." wrote in message ... "tacoexpress" wrote in message oups.com... I'm curious then where you adopted the term "liberal media bias" or is that simply your own perception? It's the truth... the media has taken upon a lot of Marxist views when contrasting with today's events. e.g. ================================================= http://right-wing-b.s./bmrls How the ACLU This b.s. you're posting doesn't smell any better when you repost it. It Then why do you keep snipping it? I'm performing a public service. The reality is, Christmas itself is a canard, a holiday that only by convention is celebrated on the 25th of December. The date itself has nothing to do with the man now called Jesus. What you are celebrating is a holiday created from whole cloth by Constantine the Great in the fourth century. He picked the same date as an existing pagan festival. Jesus, a pious Jewish man, probably would have disdained the holiday named for him via a name that was not his. Probably not Harry. ================================================= http://tinyurl.com/bmrls How the ACLU and other secularist Grinches have almost stolen Christmas - and how you can fight back now The War on Christmas by John Gibson "Happy holidays!" Every time a supermarket checker or store clerk greets you with those words instead of "Merry Christmas," you have met another soldier in the war against Christmas. Secularists are bent on imposing upon us a neutered, secular winter holiday that throws out every trace of Christianity from the public observance of Christmas. It's all necessary, they tell us, to avoid offending non-Christians and, above all, to keep from violating the all-important separation of church and state. Meanwhile, Christians in America are increasingly marginalized and shunted aside. In The War On Christmas: How the Conspiracy to Subvert Our Most Sacred Holiday Is Worse Than You Thought, popular FOX News anchor John Gibson reveals that this is not happening because of some cultural consensus. On the contrary, he explains that a thorough and virulent anti-Christmas campaign is being waged today by liberal activists, ACLU fanatics, craven politicians, sinister agenda-driven educators, and witless media mavens. But for all their efforts, the Grinches have not won: plucky Christians are already fighting to retake their place in the public square. Gibson reveals just how bad things have become: in Illinois, state government workers were forbidden to say "Merry Christmas" while at work. In Rhode Island, local officials banned Christians from participating in a public project to decorate the lawn of City Hall. A New Jersey school banned even instrumental versions of traditional Christmas carols. And Arizona school officials ruled it unconstitutional for a student to make any reference to the religious history of Christmas in a class project. But according to Gibson, despite what the ACLU says, all of this is completely unnecessary from a genuine Constitutional perspective: the last thing on the Founding Fathers' mind when they wrote that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" was the banning of all public celebration of Christmas. What's more, the Left's campaign to infringe upon Christians' free exercise of their religion has not achieved total victory. Gibson shows how millions of Americans are starting to fight back against the secularist forces and liberal local officials. He shows you how you can help save Christmas from being twisted beyond recognition. The War on Christmas is a perfect gift for all those who want to restore Christianity to its rightful place in American public life -- give it to them with a hearty "Merry Christmas!" The War on Christmas reveals: - Proof: Christmas is under attack in such a sustained and strategized manner that there is without any doubt a war on Christmas - How the Constitutional concept of non-establishment of a religion has been twisted into a hostility to Christianity that is itself quite obviously unconstitutional - Common sight in American public schools every December: Hanukkah and Kwanza decorations proliferating everywhere, but nary a mention of Christmas - How the war on Christmas is not just being fought in loony-left blue state strongholds, but in the American heartland - The ACLU, ADL, and Americans for the Separation of Church and State: how they provide the legal muscle and contorted logic to anti-Christmas warriors while looking approvingly on public expressions of Islam, Hinduism, and Judaism - The ridiculous lengths to which the ACLU has gone in its war against Christmas and its quest to remove all vestiges of Christianity from public life -- including its argument that a rural Georgia school calendar that contained the word "Christmas" represented state endorsement of Christianity and was thus unconstitutional - Amateur constitutionalists who occupy positions of power in America, and are making up the law as they go along (often after being intimidated by the ACLU) - The ACLU lawyer who, on his lunch break, inspected a Christmas tree that had been set up in the Pennsylvania state capitol and found, among its thousand ornaments, three that were cross-shaped -- and promptly filed suit - How liberals stir up fears of aggressive Christians' turning public schools into religious organizations and America into a theocracy to gain support for their war on Christmas - How officials forbade a Texas schoolgirl to give other students goodie bags inscribed "Jesus is the reason for the season" - Roger Ailes: how he put identification breaks that wished viewers "Merry Christmas" on the air on Fox News stations -- to the shock and horror of the politically correct establishment - The throngs of lawyers who are now willing to take on the ACLU and defend Christmas - How Christmas has become the new litmus test of our nation's willingness to abide by its own Constitution, to make certain that people are free to express their religion without being told that they must keep their beliefs private and tucked out of sight ==================== Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night. ;-) |
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On 10 Dec 2005 15:02:07 -0800, "tacoexpress" wrote:
Interesting topic for the rec.boats forum... It's broad sweeping generalizations like "Liberal Media Bias" that make it difficult for constructive discourse between groups with differing views. You can't believe everything that Rush tells you. Stop fueling the fire and make a real point. http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2447 This line seems to say a lot: A full 92% of responding journalists said the quality of economic policy coverage on broadcast TV networks was only "fair" or "poor," with just 6% saying it was "good" and not a single respondent saying it was "excellent." And that's with journalists rating journalists! Thirty-five percent thought the major daily newspapers were 'fair' or 'poor'. And that's journalists rating journalists! Of the minority who do not identify with the center, most have left leanings concerning social issues and right leanings concerning economic ones. (But go look at the numbers.) -- John H MERRY CHRISTMAS! Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day. |
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