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GM Forced to Lay Off Thousands
"John H." wrote in message ... On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 08:23:57 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: Doug Kanter wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... On 21 Nov 2005 13:53:41 -0800, wrote: Skipper wrote: Doug Kanter wrote: "Skipper" wrote in message ... Sir Rodney Smithers wrote: "Skipper" wrote: Wonder if Krause drives A GM product or one o' them oriental makes? Krause purchased a Toyota Tundra. I am sure he is completely responsible for those 30,000 employees losing their job. He should be ashamed of himself. Then bottom line, he and his ilk *are* responsible for those lost jobs. Hang on a minute, Scupper. I thought you right wing fags believe in personal responsibility. It sure seems that way when you're slamming the welfare system. But now, GM gets a pass because not enough customers want their cars? It's more a red state blue state thingy. Real Americans live in red states, buy GM or Ford, and support their country. Them leftists living in blue states allowed to drive make payments on foreign tinkle toys. Bottom line...the Looney Left does not support their country or traditional American values. They weaken American at every turn. -- Skipper That's because righties are lemmings, lefties are not. A right winger would buy American no matter what, because they're told to do so. A left winger would use their brains, and know that some of the foreign models are more dependable, and better equipped for less money. And then bitch about the jobs going overseas. -- John H My Tacoma was built in California. IIRC, the engine block came from Japan, but Toyota does that to protect my job. It guarantees that the vehicle will get me to work many more times than another brand. I recall reading several years ago that Toyota was planning to manufacture some of its truck engines in the USA, too, but I haven't followed that story, so I have no idea whether it took place. Some of us realize that if the US had a decent program of national health insurance and pension programs, as most other modern nations do, our manufacturers would be more competitive. If we all gave the money to the government, we wouldn't be able to buy the products at the prices they'd want anyway. -- John H "It's *not* a baby kicking, beautiful bride, it's only a fetus!" A Famous Hypocrite I heard this on 700 WLW this morning. The figures are pretty close to what I recall as being reported: Average number of hours to produce a car: Toyota 21 hours Ford 26 hours Chrysler 34 hours GM 38 hours Add to that the health care coverage and pension giveaways and one wonders why GM is struggling? |
GM Forced to Lay Off Thousands
" *JimH*" wrote in message ... "John H." wrote in message ... On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 08:23:57 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: Doug Kanter wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... On 21 Nov 2005 13:53:41 -0800, wrote: Skipper wrote: Doug Kanter wrote: "Skipper" wrote in message ... Sir Rodney Smithers wrote: "Skipper" wrote: Wonder if Krause drives A GM product or one o' them oriental makes? Krause purchased a Toyota Tundra. I am sure he is completely responsible for those 30,000 employees losing their job. He should be ashamed of himself. Then bottom line, he and his ilk *are* responsible for those lost jobs. Hang on a minute, Scupper. I thought you right wing fags believe in personal responsibility. It sure seems that way when you're slamming the welfare system. But now, GM gets a pass because not enough customers want their cars? It's more a red state blue state thingy. Real Americans live in red states, buy GM or Ford, and support their country. Them leftists living in blue states allowed to drive make payments on foreign tinkle toys. Bottom line...the Looney Left does not support their country or traditional American values. They weaken American at every turn. -- Skipper That's because righties are lemmings, lefties are not. A right winger would buy American no matter what, because they're told to do so. A left winger would use their brains, and know that some of the foreign models are more dependable, and better equipped for less money. And then bitch about the jobs going overseas. -- John H My Tacoma was built in California. IIRC, the engine block came from Japan, but Toyota does that to protect my job. It guarantees that the vehicle will get me to work many more times than another brand. I recall reading several years ago that Toyota was planning to manufacture some of its truck engines in the USA, too, but I haven't followed that story, so I have no idea whether it took place. Some of us realize that if the US had a decent program of national health insurance and pension programs, as most other modern nations do, our manufacturers would be more competitive. If we all gave the money to the government, we wouldn't be able to buy the products at the prices they'd want anyway. -- John H "It's *not* a baby kicking, beautiful bride, it's only a fetus!" A Famous Hypocrite I heard this on 700 WLW this morning. The figures are what I recall as being reported but may be off by a couple of hours: Average number of hours to produce a car: Toyota 21 hours Ford 26 hours Chrysler 34 hours GM 38 hours Add to that the health care coverage and pension giveaways and one wonders why GM is struggling? edit |
GM Forced to Lay Off Thousands
"thunder" wrote in message ... On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 08:23:57 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: Some of us realize that if the US had a decent program of national health insurance and pension programs, as most other modern nations do, our manufacturers would be more competitive. You have a point. Last time I looked, health care costs were very close to 15% GDP. The rest of the industrialized world is around 10% and under. That is a major anti-competitive cost. I'll take the US's health care system over any other health system in the world. I can get the services I want when I want them rather than having them be rationed to me. |
GM Forced to Lay Off Thousands
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Bert Robbins" wrote in message ... "Bryan" wrote in message . net... "Skipper" wrote in message ... Doug Kanter wrote: Hang on a minute, Scupper. I thought you right wing fags believe in personal responsibility. It sure seems that way when you're slamming the welfare system. But now, GM gets a pass because not enough customers want their cars? It's more a red state blue state thingy. Real Americans live in red states, buy GM or Ford, and support their country. Them leftists living in blue states allowed to drive make payments on foreign tinkle toys. Bottom line...the Looney Left does not support their country or traditional American values. They weaken American at every turn. -- Skipper I guess I'm just confused: I own a Ford Truck made in UhMurkuh and a Toyota made god knows where and a Sea Ray again made in UhMurkuh. In 200,000 miles I've had fewer problems with the Toyota than I've had with my truck in 50,000 miles. I wouldn't trade my truck for anything, except another truck, but damn I wish my Ford had fewer problems. I buy American when I can, but not to the extent of buying a lesser product just to prove I'm red white and blue through and through. My heart goes out to anyone that loses a job. And there's no politics in that. I've got 70,000+ miles on a 2001 F150 SuperCrew with the 5.4L V8 and I have had zero problems. I just get the oil changed every 5 to 10 thousand miles and I've replaced the tires once. Other than oil & tires.....oh never mind. You must have missed the part where I said "I have had zero problems." Oh yeah, I replace the wiper blades every winter. |
GM Forced to Lay Off Thousands
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:28:56 -0500, " *JimH*" wrote:
"John H." wrote in message .. . On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 08:23:57 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: Doug Kanter wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... On 21 Nov 2005 13:53:41 -0800, wrote: Skipper wrote: Doug Kanter wrote: "Skipper" wrote in message ... Sir Rodney Smithers wrote: "Skipper" wrote: Wonder if Krause drives A GM product or one o' them oriental makes? Krause purchased a Toyota Tundra. I am sure he is completely responsible for those 30,000 employees losing their job. He should be ashamed of himself. Then bottom line, he and his ilk *are* responsible for those lost jobs. Hang on a minute, Scupper. I thought you right wing fags believe in personal responsibility. It sure seems that way when you're slamming the welfare system. But now, GM gets a pass because not enough customers want their cars? It's more a red state blue state thingy. Real Americans live in red states, buy GM or Ford, and support their country. Them leftists living in blue states allowed to drive make payments on foreign tinkle toys. Bottom line...the Looney Left does not support their country or traditional American values. They weaken American at every turn. -- Skipper That's because righties are lemmings, lefties are not. A right winger would buy American no matter what, because they're told to do so. A left winger would use their brains, and know that some of the foreign models are more dependable, and better equipped for less money. And then bitch about the jobs going overseas. -- John H My Tacoma was built in California. IIRC, the engine block came from Japan, but Toyota does that to protect my job. It guarantees that the vehicle will get me to work many more times than another brand. I recall reading several years ago that Toyota was planning to manufacture some of its truck engines in the USA, too, but I haven't followed that story, so I have no idea whether it took place. Some of us realize that if the US had a decent program of national health insurance and pension programs, as most other modern nations do, our manufacturers would be more competitive. If we all gave the money to the government, we wouldn't be able to buy the products at the prices they'd want anyway. -- John H "It's *not* a baby kicking, beautiful bride, it's only a fetus!" A Famous Hypocrite I heard this on 700 WLW this morning. The figures are pretty close to what I recall as being reported: Average number of hours to produce a car: Toyota 21 hours Ford 26 hours Chrysler 34 hours GM 38 hours Add to that the health care coverage and pension giveaways and one wonders why GM is struggling? And how badly do the unions fight against robotics? -- John H "It's *not* a baby kicking, beautiful bride, it's only a fetus!" A Famous Hypocrite |
GM Forced to Lay Off Thousands
"John H." wrote in message ... On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:28:56 -0500, " *JimH*" wrote: "John H." wrote in message . .. On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 08:23:57 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: Doug Kanter wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... On 21 Nov 2005 13:53:41 -0800, wrote: Skipper wrote: Doug Kanter wrote: "Skipper" wrote in message ... Sir Rodney Smithers wrote: "Skipper" wrote: Wonder if Krause drives A GM product or one o' them oriental makes? Krause purchased a Toyota Tundra. I am sure he is completely responsible for those 30,000 employees losing their job. He should be ashamed of himself. Then bottom line, he and his ilk *are* responsible for those lost jobs. Hang on a minute, Scupper. I thought you right wing fags believe in personal responsibility. It sure seems that way when you're slamming the welfare system. But now, GM gets a pass because not enough customers want their cars? It's more a red state blue state thingy. Real Americans live in red states, buy GM or Ford, and support their country. Them leftists living in blue states allowed to drive make payments on foreign tinkle toys. Bottom line...the Looney Left does not support their country or traditional American values. They weaken American at every turn. -- Skipper That's because righties are lemmings, lefties are not. A right winger would buy American no matter what, because they're told to do so. A left winger would use their brains, and know that some of the foreign models are more dependable, and better equipped for less money. And then bitch about the jobs going overseas. -- John H My Tacoma was built in California. IIRC, the engine block came from Japan, but Toyota does that to protect my job. It guarantees that the vehicle will get me to work many more times than another brand. I recall reading several years ago that Toyota was planning to manufacture some of its truck engines in the USA, too, but I haven't followed that story, so I have no idea whether it took place. Some of us realize that if the US had a decent program of national health insurance and pension programs, as most other modern nations do, our manufacturers would be more competitive. If we all gave the money to the government, we wouldn't be able to buy the products at the prices they'd want anyway. -- John H "It's *not* a baby kicking, beautiful bride, it's only a fetus!" A Famous Hypocrite I heard this on 700 WLW this morning. The figures are what I recall as being reported but may be off by a couple of hours: Average number of hours to produce a car: Toyota 21 hours Ford 26 hours Chrysler 34 hours GM 38 hours Add to that the health care coverage and pension giveaways and one wonders why GM is struggling? And how badly do the unions fight against robotics? -- John H http://tinyurl.com/be4qe Go figure. |
GM Forced to Lay Off Thousands
" *JimH*" wrote in message . .. "John H." wrote in message ... On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:28:56 -0500, " *JimH*" wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 08:23:57 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: Doug Kanter wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... On 21 Nov 2005 13:53:41 -0800, wrote: Skipper wrote: Doug Kanter wrote: "Skipper" wrote in message ... Sir Rodney Smithers wrote: "Skipper" wrote: Wonder if Krause drives A GM product or one o' them oriental makes? Krause purchased a Toyota Tundra. I am sure he is completely responsible for those 30,000 employees losing their job. He should be ashamed of himself. Then bottom line, he and his ilk *are* responsible for those lost jobs. Hang on a minute, Scupper. I thought you right wing fags believe in personal responsibility. It sure seems that way when you're slamming the welfare system. But now, GM gets a pass because not enough customers want their cars? It's more a red state blue state thingy. Real Americans live in red states, buy GM or Ford, and support their country. Them leftists living in blue states allowed to drive make payments on foreign tinkle toys. Bottom line...the Looney Left does not support their country or traditional American values. They weaken American at every turn. -- Skipper That's because righties are lemmings, lefties are not. A right winger would buy American no matter what, because they're told to do so. A left winger would use their brains, and know that some of the foreign models are more dependable, and better equipped for less money. And then bitch about the jobs going overseas. -- John H My Tacoma was built in California. IIRC, the engine block came from Japan, but Toyota does that to protect my job. It guarantees that the vehicle will get me to work many more times than another brand. I recall reading several years ago that Toyota was planning to manufacture some of its truck engines in the USA, too, but I haven't followed that story, so I have no idea whether it took place. Some of us realize that if the US had a decent program of national health insurance and pension programs, as most other modern nations do, our manufacturers would be more competitive. If we all gave the money to the government, we wouldn't be able to buy the products at the prices they'd want anyway. -- John H "It's *not* a baby kicking, beautiful bride, it's only a fetus!" A Famous Hypocrite I heard this on 700 WLW this morning. The figures are what I recall as being reported but may be off by a couple of hours: Average number of hours to produce a car: Toyota 21 hours Ford 26 hours Chrysler 34 hours GM 38 hours Add to that the health care coverage and pension giveaways and one wonders why GM is struggling? And how badly do the unions fight against robotics? -- John H http://www.jdpa.com/news/releases/pr...asp?ID=2005088 http://www.toyota-europe.com/about/n...dNews_2005.asp http://search.japantimes.co.jp/print...20050520a3.htm Go figure. Edit links |
GM Forced to Lay Off Thousands
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:31:38 -0500, " *JimH*" wrote:
"John H." wrote in message .. . On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:28:56 -0500, " *JimH*" wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 08:23:57 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: Doug Kanter wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... On 21 Nov 2005 13:53:41 -0800, wrote: Skipper wrote: Doug Kanter wrote: "Skipper" wrote in message ... Sir Rodney Smithers wrote: "Skipper" wrote: Wonder if Krause drives A GM product or one o' them oriental makes? Krause purchased a Toyota Tundra. I am sure he is completely responsible for those 30,000 employees losing their job. He should be ashamed of himself. Then bottom line, he and his ilk *are* responsible for those lost jobs. Hang on a minute, Scupper. I thought you right wing fags believe in personal responsibility. It sure seems that way when you're slamming the welfare system. But now, GM gets a pass because not enough customers want their cars? It's more a red state blue state thingy. Real Americans live in red states, buy GM or Ford, and support their country. Them leftists living in blue states allowed to drive make payments on foreign tinkle toys. Bottom line...the Looney Left does not support their country or traditional American values. They weaken American at every turn. -- Skipper That's because righties are lemmings, lefties are not. A right winger would buy American no matter what, because they're told to do so. A left winger would use their brains, and know that some of the foreign models are more dependable, and better equipped for less money. And then bitch about the jobs going overseas. -- John H My Tacoma was built in California. IIRC, the engine block came from Japan, but Toyota does that to protect my job. It guarantees that the vehicle will get me to work many more times than another brand. I recall reading several years ago that Toyota was planning to manufacture some of its truck engines in the USA, too, but I haven't followed that story, so I have no idea whether it took place. Some of us realize that if the US had a decent program of national health insurance and pension programs, as most other modern nations do, our manufacturers would be more competitive. If we all gave the money to the government, we wouldn't be able to buy the products at the prices they'd want anyway. -- John H "It's *not* a baby kicking, beautiful bride, it's only a fetus!" A Famous Hypocrite I heard this on 700 WLW this morning. The figures are what I recall as being reported but may be off by a couple of hours: Average number of hours to produce a car: Toyota 21 hours Ford 26 hours Chrysler 34 hours GM 38 hours Add to that the health care coverage and pension giveaways and one wonders why GM is struggling? And how badly do the unions fight against robotics? -- John H http://tinyurl.com/be4qe Go figure. Because of its anti-Christmas stance, Wal-Mart gets none of my business this year. Last year I canceled my Macy's card, with a letter explaining that I didn't like their Christmas stance (not using the word). This year Macy's is using "Merry Christmas" every chance it gets. I guess they got the word. We'll see if Wal-Mart amends its policy. I sent them a letter informing them of my stance. -- John H "It's *not* a baby kicking, beautiful bride, it's only a fetus!" A Famous Hypocrite |
GM Forced to Lay Off Thousands
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:42:53 -0500, " *JimH*" wrote:
John H http://www.jdpa.com/news/releases/pr...asp?ID=2005088 http://www.toyota-europe.com/about/n...dNews_2005.asp http://search.japantimes.co.jp/print...20050520a3.htm Go figure. Edit links I'm surprised at how few problems Jaguar had reported. After owning an MGB-GT, I thought British cars were little more than maintenance hobbies. -- John H "It's *not* a baby kicking, beautiful bride, it's only a fetus!" A Famous Hypocrite |
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