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![]() " *JimH*" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ink.net... "Dan J.S." wrote in message ... wrote in message ps.com... Sammy wrote: Wow, I thought social unrest was impossible under democratic socialism? Nah. It's just not moved to a designated "protest zone" where the high rollin' elite and right wing political candidates don't have to see it. Don't forget what that old communist, Thomas Jefferson, preached. Every so often it is healthy for the people to rise up, take control of, and reform the government. We may be seeing the beginnings of that process in France, and that should make all the "We-hate-France-because-the French-didn't-fall-for-the-WMD-propaganda-and-join-the-invasion-of-Iraq" crowd extremely happy. It worked really well when the Arabs burned down half of Europe in the 1600s... ****ing idiot! You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Actually Chuck may be right. France is an economic disaster. Almost all the public union strikes are over the government trying to add a couple of years more working time before the people retire. In something like 10-15 years, there will be only 2 workers for every retired worker. Think that will be sustainable? France just happens to be the worst, but lots of European countries are in the same boat. Naples has a 37% unemployment. Most likely the reason it is one of the most dangerous cities in Italy (besides the taxi drivers). Yep, France's economy is in the crapper and social spending is out of control. But those facts are not factors of the riots. Otherwise the rioters would not be made up only of young muslim men. Take a look at photos of riots in the Middle East. Women don't often participate in them. Of course, you knew that, you know why, but you just forgot. |
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![]() " *JimH*" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ink.net... "Dan J.S." wrote in message ... wrote in message ps.com... Sammy wrote: Wow, I thought social unrest was impossible under democratic socialism? Nah. It's just not moved to a designated "protest zone" where the high rollin' elite and right wing political candidates don't have to see it. Don't forget what that old communist, Thomas Jefferson, preached. Every so often it is healthy for the people to rise up, take control of, and reform the government. We may be seeing the beginnings of that process in France, and that should make all the "We-hate-France-because-the French-didn't-fall-for-the-WMD-propaganda-and-join-the-invasion-of-Iraq" crowd extremely happy. It worked really well when the Arabs burned down half of Europe in the 1600s... ****ing idiot! You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Actually Chuck may be right. France is an economic disaster. Almost all the public union strikes are over the government trying to add a couple of years more working time before the people retire. In something like 10-15 years, there will be only 2 workers for every retired worker. Think that will be sustainable? France just happens to be the worst, but lots of European countries are in the same boat. Naples has a 37% unemployment. Most likely the reason it is one of the most dangerous cities in Italy (besides the taxi drivers). Yep, France's economy is in the crapper and social spending is out of control. But those facts are not factors of the riots. Otherwise the rioters would not be made up only of young muslim men. They are a part of the riots. The 40% unemployment in their society goes a long way towards dissatisfaction with life. This also makes a verdant garden for Mullahs to recruit in. Plus the families never assimilated into French life. The parents thought they would return to the home countries. Part of this is France reaping the rewards of being an asshole colonial ruler. England at least trained and educated the ruled, but France did not educate females and educated the makes to the 6th grade level. So they could read the instructions for work for their masters. Had a coworker who grew up under the French in Algeria. His description of life for the Algerians was not nice. But after the Algerian's finally tossed the French, their was a power vacuum and the different sect's of Islam are maiming/killing the other sects, so the underdogs flee to France, as that is OK under the old colonial rules. But, no jobs for the immigrants or only menial jobs makes for a nasty neighborhood. France's socialized society has not created enough new jobs to satisfy the needs of these people, so they are reaping the fruits of their garden. Not enough dole money to give them a decent life, and no way to make enough money. And Imam's that want a Islamic Europe, find good recruiting ground. |
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![]() Sammy wrote: Wow, I thought social unrest was impossible under democratic socialism? Please, do tell, exactly WHAT made you think that "social unrest was impossible under democratic socialism"? |
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