wrote:

Sammy wrote:
Wow, I thought social unrest was impossible under democratic socialism?

Nah. It's just not moved to a designated "protest zone" where the high
rollin' elite and right wing political candidates don't have to see it.

Don't forget what that old communist, Thomas Jefferson, preached. Every
so often it is healthy for the people to rise up, take control of, and
reform the government.

One wonders what certain unscrupulous French used car salesmen think
while watching thousands of cars burn in the street.

--
Skipper

On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 10:29:58 -0600, Skipper wrote:

wrote:

Sammy wrote:
Wow, I thought social unrest was impossible under democratic socialism?

Nah. It's just not moved to a designated "protest zone" where the high
rollin' elite and right wing political candidates don't have to see it.

Don't forget what that old communist, Thomas Jefferson, preached. Every
so often it is healthy for the people to rise up, take control of, and
reform the government.

One wonders what certain unscrupulous French used car salesmen think
while watching thousands of cars burn in the street.

I thought you'd stopped that!
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

Hypocrital Liberal

wrote in message
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Sammy wrote:
Wow, I thought social unrest was impossible under democratic socialism?


Nah. It's just not moved to a designated "protest zone" where the high
rollin' elite and right wing political candidates don't have to see it.

Don't forget what that old communist, Thomas Jefferson, preached. Every
so often it is healthy for the people to rise up, take control of, and
reform the government. We may be seeing the beginnings of that process
in France, and that should make all the "We-hate-France-because-the
French-didn't-fall-for-the-WMD-propaganda-and-join-the-invasion-of-Iraq"
crowd extremely happy.


It worked really well when the Arabs burned down half of Europe in the
1600s... ****ing idiot!

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Dan J.S. wrote:
It worked really well when the Arabs burned down half of Europe in the
1600s... ****ing idiot!


???

Could you explain when & where this happened, please?


You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.


Possibly, but I certainly don't have any idea what you are talking about.

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
...
Dan J.S. wrote:
It worked really well when the Arabs burned down half of Europe in the
1600s... ****ing idiot!


???

Could you explain when & where this happened, please?


His greatest success came on September 12, 1683 as victor at the Battle of
Vienna, with Polish, Austrian and German troops, once more against the Turks
under Kara Mustafa. The pope and other foreign dignitaries then hailed
Sobieski as the "Savior of Vienna and Western European civilization." In a
letter to his wife he wrote, ...All the common people kissed my hands, my
feet, my clothes; others only touched me, saying: Ach, let us kiss so
valiant a hand!".



Turning point of when the Turks backed off.

Just to make sure I'm not accused of misquoting you, you are saying that
the Turks (whose troops were not all Muslim, BTW... look up
"Janissaries") beseiging Vienna... and failing... equals "burning down
half of Europe"?

You may want to check a map.

And as Doug Kanter suggested, you may want to take a gander at some
Spanish history.

DSK


Dan J.S. wrote:
His greatest success came on September 12, 1683 as victor at the Battle of
Vienna, with Polish, Austrian and German troops, once more against the Turks
under Kara Mustafa. The pope and other foreign dignitaries then hailed
Sobieski as the "Savior of Vienna and Western European civilization." In a
letter to his wife he wrote, ...All the common people kissed my hands, my
feet, my clothes; others only touched me, saying: Ach, let us kiss so
valiant a hand!".



Turning point of when the Turks backed off.

Dan J.S. wrote:
wrote in message
ps.com...

Sammy wrote:
Wow, I thought social unrest was impossible under democratic socialism?


Nah. It's just not moved to a designated "protest zone" where the high
rollin' elite and right wing political candidates don't have to see it.

Don't forget what that old communist, Thomas Jefferson, preached. Every
so often it is healthy for the people to rise up, take control of, and
reform the government. We may be seeing the beginnings of that process
in France, and that should make all the "We-hate-France-because-the
French-didn't-fall-for-the-WMD-propaganda-and-join-the-invasion-of-Iraq"
crowd extremely happy.


It worked really well when the Arabs burned down half of Europe in the
1600s... ****ing idiot!

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Worked just as well when the Christian Europeans slaughtered 30,000
Arabs within a quarter of a sqaure mile inside the city walls of
Jerusalem during the first crusade- if you want to go back that far
into history.

Are you blaming the Great Fire of London (1666) on "Arabs"? How
amusing- if you are.

I hope you don't kiss your mother with that mouth.

Are you blaming the Great Fire of London (1666) on "Arabs"? How
amusing- if you are.

I hope you don't kiss your mother with that mouth.


I apologize for swearing at you... I just get all up in arms when Islam
comes up.

On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 14:04:37 -0600, "Dan J.S." wrote:

Are you blaming the Great Fire of London (1666) on "Arabs"? How
amusing- if you are.

I hope you don't kiss your mother with that mouth.


I apologize for swearing at you... I just get all up in arms when Islam
comes up.


Sure wish more folks would follow this example!
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

Hypocrital Liberal

"Dan J.S." wrote in message
...

wrote in message
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Sammy wrote:
Wow, I thought social unrest was impossible under democratic socialism?


Nah. It's just not moved to a designated "protest zone" where the high
rollin' elite and right wing political candidates don't have to see it.

Don't forget what that old communist, Thomas Jefferson, preached. Every
so often it is healthy for the people to rise up, take control of, and
reform the government. We may be seeing the beginnings of that process
in France, and that should make all the "We-hate-France-because-the
French-didn't-fall-for-the-WMD-propaganda-and-join-the-invasion-of-Iraq"
crowd extremely happy.


It worked really well when the Arabs burned down half of Europe in the
1600s... ****ing idiot!

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.


I'm ready for a history lesson. Half of Europe? Which half?