"Dan J.S." wrote
It worked really well when the Arabs burned down half of Europe in the
1600s... ****ing idiot!

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Doug Kanter wrote:
I'm ready for a history lesson. Half of Europe? Which half?


I'm waiting to learn the details too. Enquiring minds want to know!

But I think the reason we are ignorant of this little true-history
nugget is that we must have missed the latest broadcast from Planet
Bozo-Moronia.

DSK

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"Dan J.S." wrote
It worked really well when the Arabs burned down half of Europe in the
1600s... ****ing idiot!

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Doug Kanter wrote:
I'm ready for a history lesson. Half of Europe? Which half?

I'm waiting to learn the details too. Enquiring minds want to know!

But I think the reason we are ignorant of this little true-history nugget
is that we must have missed the latest broadcast from Planet Bozo-Moronia.

DSK


Either that, or Spain is equal to half of Europe. Can't wait to learn Moor.
:-)

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Sammy wrote:
Wow, I thought social unrest was impossible under democratic socialism?


Nah. It's just not moved to a designated "protest zone" where the high
rollin' elite and right wing political candidates don't have to see it.

Don't forget what that old communist, Thomas Jefferson, preached. Every
so often it is healthy for the people to rise up, take control of, and
reform the government. We may be seeing the beginnings of that process
in France, and that should make all the "We-hate-France-because-the
French-didn't-fall-for-the-WMD-propaganda-and-join-the-invasion-of-Iraq"
crowd extremely happy.


It worked really well when the Arabs burned down half of Europe in the
1600s... ****ing idiot!

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.


I'm ready for a history lesson. Half of Europe? Which half?


read about Grand Vizier Merzifonlu Kara Mustafa Pasha

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Sammy wrote:
Wow, I thought social unrest was impossible under democratic
socialism?


Nah. It's just not moved to a designated "protest zone" where the high
rollin' elite and right wing political candidates don't have to see it.

Don't forget what that old communist, Thomas Jefferson, preached. Every
so often it is healthy for the people to rise up, take control of, and
reform the government. We may be seeing the beginnings of that process
in France, and that should make all the "We-hate-France-because-the
French-didn't-fall-for-the-WMD-propaganda-and-join-the-invasion-of-Iraq"
crowd extremely happy.


It worked really well when the Arabs burned down half of Europe in the
1600s... ****ing idiot!

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.


I'm ready for a history lesson. Half of Europe? Which half?


read about Grand Vizier Merzifonlu Kara Mustafa Pasha




Done. Now what?

"Dan J.S." wrote in message
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Sammy wrote:
Wow, I thought social unrest was impossible under democratic socialism?


Nah. It's just not moved to a designated "protest zone" where the high
rollin' elite and right wing political candidates don't have to see it.

Don't forget what that old communist, Thomas Jefferson, preached. Every
so often it is healthy for the people to rise up, take control of, and
reform the government. We may be seeing the beginnings of that process
in France, and that should make all the "We-hate-France-because-the
French-didn't-fall-for-the-WMD-propaganda-and-join-the-invasion-of-Iraq"
crowd extremely happy.


It worked really well when the Arabs burned down half of Europe in the
1600s... ****ing idiot!

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.


Actually Chuck may be right. France is an economic disaster. Almost all
the public union strikes are over the government trying to add a couple of
years more working time before the people retire. In something like 10-15
years, there will be only 2 workers for every retired worker. Think that
will be sustainable? France just happens to be the worst, but lots of
European countries are in the same boat. Naples has a 37% unemployment.
Most likely the reason it is one of the most dangerous cities in Italy
(besides the taxi drivers).

Well France stinks - maybe you guys dont know - but a few EU countries have
been supporting our allied USA in Irak and all other places - Denmark where
i live is one of them, our closest allied and partner is USA - it is
interesting that our unimployment rate is less than 5% - but then again we
dont have a socialistic goverment - they where replaced by a Liberal one 5
year ago - and still have absolute majority.
"Bill McKee" skrev i en meddelelse
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Sammy wrote:
Wow, I thought social unrest was impossible under democratic socialism?


Nah. It's just not moved to a designated "protest zone" where the high
rollin' elite and right wing political candidates don't have to see it.

Don't forget what that old communist, Thomas Jefferson, preached. Every
so often it is healthy for the people to rise up, take control of, and
reform the government. We may be seeing the beginnings of that process
in France, and that should make all the "We-hate-France-because-the
French-didn't-fall-for-the-WMD-propaganda-and-join-the-invasion-of-Iraq"
crowd extremely happy.


It worked really well when the Arabs burned down half of Europe in the
1600s... ****ing idiot!

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.


Actually Chuck may be right. France is an economic disaster. Almost all
the public union strikes are over the government trying to add a couple of
years more working time before the people retire. In something like 10-15
years, there will be only 2 workers for every retired worker. Think that
will be sustainable? France just happens to be the worst, but lots of
European countries are in the same boat. Naples has a 37% unemployment.
Most likely the reason it is one of the most dangerous cities in Italy
(besides the taxi drivers).

Was not painting all Europe with the same brush.

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Well France stinks - maybe you guys dont know - but a few EU countries
have been supporting our allied USA in Irak and all other places - Denmark
where i live is one of them, our closest allied and partner is USA - it is
interesting that our unimployment rate is less than 5% - but then again we
dont have a socialistic goverment - they where replaced by a Liberal one 5
year ago - and still have absolute majority.
"Bill McKee" skrev i en meddelelse
ink.net...

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Sammy wrote:
Wow, I thought social unrest was impossible under democratic
socialism?


Nah. It's just not moved to a designated "protest zone" where the high
rollin' elite and right wing political candidates don't have to see it.

Don't forget what that old communist, Thomas Jefferson, preached. Every
so often it is healthy for the people to rise up, take control of, and
reform the government. We may be seeing the beginnings of that process
in France, and that should make all the "We-hate-France-because-the
French-didn't-fall-for-the-WMD-propaganda-and-join-the-invasion-of-Iraq"
crowd extremely happy.


It worked really well when the Arabs burned down half of Europe in the
1600s... ****ing idiot!

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.


Actually Chuck may be right. France is an economic disaster. Almost all
the public union strikes are over the government trying to add a couple
of years more working time before the people retire. In something like
10-15 years, there will be only 2 workers for every retired worker.
Think that will be sustainable? France just happens to be the worst, but
lots of European countries are in the same boat. Naples has a 37%
unemployment. Most likely the reason it is one of the most dangerous
cities in Italy (besides the taxi drivers).

"ena" wrote in message
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Well France stinks - maybe you guys dont know - but a few EU countries
have been supporting our allied USA in Irak and all other places - Denmark
where i live is one of them, our closest allied and partner is USA - it is
interesting that our unimployment rate is less than 5% - but then again we
dont have a socialistic goverment - they where replaced by a Liberal one 5
year ago - and still have absolute majority.

And I want to thank you for your countries support! I was born in Poland
myself, and we also support the U.S. and are proud of it.

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Sammy wrote:
Wow, I thought social unrest was impossible under democratic socialism?


Nah. It's just not moved to a designated "protest zone" where the high
rollin' elite and right wing political candidates don't have to see it.

Don't forget what that old communist, Thomas Jefferson, preached. Every
so often it is healthy for the people to rise up, take control of, and
reform the government. We may be seeing the beginnings of that process
in France, and that should make all the "We-hate-France-because-the
French-didn't-fall-for-the-WMD-propaganda-and-join-the-invasion-of-Iraq"
crowd extremely happy.


It worked really well when the Arabs burned down half of Europe in the
1600s... ****ing idiot!

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.


Actually Chuck may be right. France is an economic disaster. Almost all
the public union strikes are over the government trying to add a couple of
years more working time before the people retire. In something like 10-15
years, there will be only 2 workers for every retired worker. Think that
will be sustainable? France just happens to be the worst, but lots of
European countries are in the same boat. Naples has a 37% unemployment.
Most likely the reason it is one of the most dangerous cities in Italy
(besides the taxi drivers).


Yep, France's economy is in the crapper and social spending is out of
control.

But those facts are not factors of the riots. Otherwise the rioters would
not be made up only of young muslim men.

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Sammy wrote:
Wow, I thought social unrest was impossible under democratic
socialism?


Nah. It's just not moved to a designated "protest zone" where the high
rollin' elite and right wing political candidates don't have to see
it.

Don't forget what that old communist, Thomas Jefferson, preached.
Every
so often it is healthy for the people to rise up, take control of, and
reform the government. We may be seeing the beginnings of that process
in France, and that should make all the "We-hate-France-because-the

French-didn't-fall-for-the-WMD-propaganda-and-join-the-invasion-of-Iraq"
crowd extremely happy.


It worked really well when the Arabs burned down half of Europe in the
1600s... ****ing idiot!

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.


Actually Chuck may be right. France is an economic disaster. Almost
all
the public union strikes are over the government trying to add a couple
of
years more working time before the people retire. In something like
10-15
years, there will be only 2 workers for every retired worker. Think
that
will be sustainable? France just happens to be the worst, but lots of
European countries are in the same boat. Naples has a 37% unemployment.
Most likely the reason it is one of the most dangerous cities in Italy
(besides the taxi drivers).


Yep, France's economy is in the crapper and social spending is out of
control.

Actually it is to some degree.....economics plays a major role in
it.......and the fact that muslims tend to not assimilate into the culture
where they live means they end up religated to the lower end of the economic
scale.


But those facts are not factors of the riots. Otherwise the rioters would
not be made up only of young muslim men.