Skipper wrote:


Some NG readers recognize a troll when they see it.

They are pretty easy to spot. Usually have Democrats, Liberals, George
Bush, or another poster's name in the heading and 6-10 per day
originate in Kansas.

Have a pleasant Sunday, (whatever remains of it), Psuedo.

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 12:16:22 -0500, "Awsome" wrote:

I am thinking of Atlantic crossing for some time in my tiny power boat,
Bayliner 30 footer Aft. bridge. I am doing some changes in boat to get it
ready for this trip.

1. Replacing the Gas engine with diesel cauz diesel gives more milage plus
its cheap in Europe as compare to gas.
2. Adding extra fuel tanks to carry diesel fuel.
3. Installing small wind generator for extra electrical power on boat.
4. As back up source, installing 1000watts solar panels and small diesel
generator.
5. Another idea of using some kind of alteration on my outboard unit to
drive it with electric motor as well as engine. Havn't done the
calculation
yet but I am sure it is possible. With extra onboard electric power I
think
it is possible to use DC motor to drive the propeller shaft atleast for
some
time and then switch over to diesel engine.
6. Another wild idea is to add flying kite thingy to my boat for extra
pull
under good wind situation, here is the link if some of you is not familar
with this thing: http://www.kiteship.com/id2.html
7. I've already installed small sea water to fresh water converting unit,
so
no worries to carry extra water.
8. Getting all the communication equipments like GPS, HF Radio bla bla.

Now the last thing .... what route ? should I use Northern route to cut
down
the long leg in sea like From New York to Halifax, St. John, Greenland,
Iceland, Scottland and then onward.

Or should I go through southern route which most of the sailing boats
normally use, like from Florida to Panamma, Ponta Delgada and Gibraltor
etc.

I know it sounds like a crazy idea but hey peoples are doing it on rowing
boats, why can't I do it.

I am open to suggestions from Folks, Please give me your best shot or any
good advise that help me or warn me of any dangers that I should be aware
off besides normal open sea encounter. Any other thing that I am over
looking here in my preparation ?

What month is better ? Which route is good North or South ?



Harry will have a lot of those answers, but he's fishing today.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

Hypocrital Liberal

You bad. Lots of 55 gallon barrels of fuel.
http://www.insidebayarea.com/trivall...ews/ci_3191094
If a go fast boat can make it a thousand miles, a slower boat ought to do
better.

Awsome wrote:
I am thinking of Atlantic crossing for some time in my tiny power boat,
Bayliner 30 footer Aft. bridge. I am doing some changes in boat to get it
ready for this trip.



Why not save the money for the retro fit, sell the Bayliner to another
coastal cruiser or Happyhour Captain and combine the money and get a
used 'Trader' or other small vessel better suited to the task at hand?

Not being a wise ass, just practical... plus much safer IMHO.

No matter what you decide, just do it! As the say, keep the dream
alive!

Matt

On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:36:22 +0000, Bill McKee wrote:


You bad. Lots of 55 gallon barrels of fuel.
http://www.insidebayarea.com/trivall...ews/ci_3191094 If a go
fast boat can make it a thousand miles, a slower boat ought to do better.

Whatever happened to the stealth boats? Several years back, I remember
reading drug smugglers where using so-called stealth boats. I believe
they were low and slow, but I never did see a picture of one.

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:36:22 +0000, Bill McKee wrote:


You bad. Lots of 55 gallon barrels of fuel.
http://www.insidebayarea.com/trivall...ews/ci_3191094 If a go
fast boat can make it a thousand miles, a slower boat ought to do better.

Whatever happened to the stealth boats? Several years back, I remember
reading drug smugglers where using so-called stealth boats. I believe
they were low and slow, but I never did see a picture of one.

These seem to be stealth except for the wake. Looks like it is over a
thousand mile, and so they need speed to allow less time for discovery.

Matt:
I agreed with you, after reading lot of post here I gave up Bayliner....
start looking again...may be a Cruiser 51 or some thing else.





"Capt. Matt" wrote in message
oups.com...

Awsome wrote:
I am thinking of Atlantic crossing for some time in my tiny power boat,
Bayliner 30 footer Aft. bridge. I am doing some changes in boat to get it
ready for this trip.



Why not save the money for the retro fit, sell the Bayliner to another
coastal cruiser or Happyhour Captain and combine the money and get a
used 'Trader' or other small vessel better suited to the task at hand?

Not being a wise ass, just practical... plus much safer IMHO.

No matter what you decide, just do it! As the say, keep the dream
alive!

Matt

Awsome wrote:
Matt:
I agreed with you, after reading lot of post here I gave up Bayliner....
start looking again...may be a Cruiser 51 or some thing else.


I Would recommend a Swan 74, but that is just me,

Now promise that if you get any progress with the outboard
Electric/diesel hybrid you'll let us know. I'm also very interested in
the kite assist, let us know if it is an idea that can work or just too
much trouble for real world application... (ask Charlie Brown).

Good luck and keep us informed!

Matt

Thanks to all those folks who responded to my post. I was expecting that all
the shots will be fired at me instead of settleing some good old score in
between them :-)

Now I have one last curious question which none of my friends addressed here
in their post. Just for the argument sake keeping my tiny boat in mind
crossing 2000 Miles in one go is mission impossible. I can't carry that much
fuel without a supporting vessel. So I have to forget about southern and
middle atltantic route cauz 2000 miles no way hell I can make it on this
boat.

Now how about northern route ? Any one knows any thing about that ? From New
Foundland, Canada to Greenland is roughly 750 miles and then upto Iceland
another 860 miles. From Iceland to Northern part of Scotland is another
roughly 600 miles. That kinda distance can be reachable provided weather is
in my favor and I take it easy and don't rush things.

Any one wanna comment on this route please ?


"Awsome" wrote in message
. ..
I am thinking of Atlantic crossing for some time in my tiny power boat,
Bayliner 30 footer Aft. bridge. I am doing some changes in boat to get it
ready for this trip.

1. Replacing the Gas engine with diesel cauz diesel gives more milage plus
its cheap in Europe as compare to gas.
2. Adding extra fuel tanks to carry diesel fuel.
3. Installing small wind generator for extra electrical power on boat.
4. As back up source, installing 1000watts solar panels and small diesel
generator.
5. Another idea of using some kind of alteration on my outboard unit to
drive it with electric motor as well as engine. Havn't done the
calculation
yet but I am sure it is possible. With extra onboard electric power I
think
it is possible to use DC motor to drive the propeller shaft atleast for
some
time and then switch over to diesel engine.
6. Another wild idea is to add flying kite thingy to my boat for extra
pull
under good wind situation, here is the link if some of you is not familar
with this thing: http://www.kiteship.com/id2.html
7. I've already installed small sea water to fresh water converting unit,
so
no worries to carry extra water.
8. Getting all the communication equipments like GPS, HF Radio bla bla.

Now the last thing .... what route ? should I use Northern route to cut
down
the long leg in sea like From New York to Halifax, St. John, Greenland,
Iceland, Scottland and then onward.

Or should I go through southern route which most of the sailing boats
normally use, like from Florida to Panamma, Ponta Delgada and Gibraltor
etc.

I know it sounds like a crazy idea but hey peoples are doing it on rowing
boats, why can't I do it.

I am open to suggestions from Folks, Please give me your best shot or any
good advise that help me or warn me of any dangers that I should be aware
off besides normal open sea encounter. Any other thing that I am over
looking here in my preparation ?

What month is better ? Which route is good North or South ?

Matt:

I am actively workin on this electric hybrid project on my boat and
definitely keep you guys inform through this post.

Thanks again for all the comments.

"Capt. Matt" wrote in message
oups.com...

Awsome wrote:
Matt:
I agreed with you, after reading lot of post here I gave up Bayliner....
start looking again...may be a Cruiser 51 or some thing else.


I Would recommend a Swan 74, but that is just me,

Now promise that if you get any progress with the outboard
Electric/diesel hybrid you'll let us know. I'm also very interested in
the kite assist, let us know if it is an idea that can work or just too
much trouble for real world application... (ask Charlie Brown).

Good luck and keep us informed!

Matt

Awsome wrote:
Thanks to all those folks who responded to my post. I was expecting that all
the shots will be fired at me instead of settleing some good old score in
between them :-)

Now I have one last curious question which none of my friends addressed here
in their post. Just for the argument sake keeping my tiny boat in mind
crossing 2000 Miles in one go is mission impossible. I can't carry that much
fuel without a supporting vessel. So I have to forget about southern and
middle atltantic route cauz 2000 miles no way hell I can make it on this
boat.

Now how about northern route ? Any one knows any thing about that ? From New
Foundland, Canada to Greenland is roughly 750 miles and then upto Iceland
another 860 miles. From Iceland to Northern part of Scotland is another
roughly 600 miles. That kinda distance can be reachable provided weather is
in my favor and I take it easy and don't rush things.

Any one wanna comment on this route please ?


"Awsome" wrote in message
. ..

I am thinking of Atlantic crossing for some time in my tiny power boat,
Bayliner 30 footer Aft. bridge. I am doing some changes in boat to get it
ready for this trip.

1. Replacing the Gas engine with diesel cauz diesel gives more milage plus
its cheap in Europe as compare to gas.
2. Adding extra fuel tanks to carry diesel fuel.
3. Installing small wind generator for extra electrical power on boat.
4. As back up source, installing 1000watts solar panels and small diesel
generator.
5. Another idea of using some kind of alteration on my outboard unit to
drive it with electric motor as well as engine. Havn't done the
calculation
yet but I am sure it is possible. With extra onboard electric power I
think
it is possible to use DC motor to drive the propeller shaft atleast for
some
time and then switch over to diesel engine.
6. Another wild idea is to add flying kite thingy to my boat for extra
pull
under good wind situation, here is the link if some of you is not familar
with this thing: http://www.kiteship.com/id2.html
7. I've already installed small sea water to fresh water converting unit,
so
no worries to carry extra water.
8. Getting all the communication equipments like GPS, HF Radio bla bla.

Now the last thing .... what route ? should I use Northern route to cut
down
the long leg in sea like From New York to Halifax, St. John, Greenland,
Iceland, Scottland and then onward.

Or should I go through southern route which most of the sailing boats
normally use, like from Florida to Panamma, Ponta Delgada and Gibraltor
etc.

I know it sounds like a crazy idea but hey peoples are doing it on rowing
boats, why can't I do it.

I am open to suggestions from Folks, Please give me your best shot or any
good advise that help me or warn me of any dangers that I should be aware
off besides normal open sea encounter. Any other thing that I am over
looking here in my preparation ?

What month is better ? Which route is good North or South ?


Canadian Coast Guard and Navy are always rescuing adventurers who get
into trouble for one reason or another. good thing...should be lots of
traffic incase things go bad.