The people have the right to know that their
government is engaged in running secret gulags,

Oh, BULL. When's the last time the media reported on a new hospital
opening in Iraq? Where's the reporting on Afghanistan? We've got troops
over there, too, you know.

People still haven't caught on that this is WAR. Those "folks" in the
"gulags" are the ENEMY. They would giggle with delight while
shishkabobing your granddaughter and roasting her over hot coals. As
far as I'm concerned, they can torture them as much as is necessary to
get information that can save American lives. Back in Vietnam, we just
took VC captives up to 10,000 feet in choppers and threatened to kick
them out the door if they didn't talk. It worked great, too, they'd
jabber like typewriters up there. Saved the lives of thousands of U.S.
soldiers. There were other effective tricks, too, like slowly peeling
strips of skin off their legs with a pair of pliers, or sticking
flamethrowers up their butts.

Now, jeez... it's like we gotta give them pedicures and manicures or
something. Whoever leaked this about those CIA facilities should be
hauled out and shot. What do they think this is, a church picnic? And
where were all these whiny do-gooders back when Saddam was murdering an
average of 150 innocent people PER DAY?

But people in general will stupidly devour whatever pablum is fed to
them by the news media. Of COURSE Bush lied about WMDs, that was the
only way to get us in there; we couldn't just "invade the middle east."


Or remember all that crap about how the inspectors couldn't find any
weapons. People are so stupid, they didn't bother to notice that the
purpose of the inspectors was NOT to "search for hidden weapons."
Their mission was to examine Saddam's evidence that the weapons had
been destroyed - and there was none, although it looked mighty
suspicious when they'd delay the inspectors for 2 days while trucks
carried concealed cargo out of a warehouse, then the inspectors would
be allowed in to find it empty, then the trucks would rumble back in
after they left. Nooooooooo, we never saw THAT story on the front
pages, did we?

Or like that soldier that was prosecuted for murder for killing a
wounded Iraqi. They made him sound like a homicidal lunatic. The news
stories didn't mention that half the guy's BRAINS were hanging out of
his skull!

I'm seeing more and more parallels between Iraq and Vietnam. No, not in
being a "quagmire," but in our being crippled and prevented from
fighting the war to win, as an indirect result of the public being
relentlessly propagandized by the media. We've got all these
flip-wristed whiners, starving for "hot stories," ready to bark like
dogs if a U.S. soldier so much as sneezes the wrong way.

But, like World War II before Pearl Harbor, people are too blind to see
where all this is leading: a full scale, global war against Islamic
extremism. If the major world powers would stop all the self-serving
BS and take decisive action together against these ragheaded loonies,
we could prevent it, but of course, that won't happen. It'll drag on
and drag on, at a cost of millions of lives, until things spiral out of
control and erupts in a global conflagration. Some terrorist who was
"mistrated" in Abu Graib will detonate a suitcase nuke in Manhattan,
and as the mushroom cloud rises, missle silos in Israel will begin to
open...

Ron M.

On 3 Nov 2005 08:16:36 -0800, "Ron M." wrote:

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Back in Vietnam, we just took VC captives up to 10,000 feet in choppers and threatened to kick
them out the door if they didn't talk. It worked great, too, they'd
jabber like typewriters up there. Saved the lives of thousands of U.S.
soldiers. There were other effective tricks, too, like slowly peeling
strips of skin off their legs with a pair of pliers, or sticking
flamethrowers up their butts.


Sorry Ron but that is bull****. You've been watching too many movies.
You throw someone out of a chopper and you've got a minimum of 3
witnesses, 2 of which are officers and not likely to risk their
position for your sorry ass.
You were probably "Jody" during Vietnam.

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Ron M.

Mark E. Williams