"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
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In article . net, Bill
McKee wrote:

"Larry" wrote in message
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Jeff wrote in
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proper to pass within 15 feet of boats doing 25 MPH shouldn't be out
there.


It's 50 ft in South Carolina...just like for a dock. 200' from the
marina.

--
Larry

I guess you never pass on a 2 lane road. Both oncoming and same
direction
traffic.

What does this have to your dangerous overtaking practice? Nothing.

It's damn obvious that you don't understand the Colregs and have no
intention of accepting that you are *wrong*.

PDW

I was not wrong for several reasons. Number one is the other boat was also
a powerboat. Did not matter if it had sails up or not, it had its motor
running. And the road analogy is the same as ColRegs require. You have to
not make unsafe turns. If I am passing, the other boat has to continue in
the same direction. 17, a, i .

Whether you are wrong in the passing situation is debatable. What is not
debatable is the alienation you've achieved on this boat building
group/list.

That said, you might check some of the many books on maritime law. It's
quite different from that administered on land. Among other things, it
assigns blame (costs) as a function of the degree of guilt. It's not the
winner take all game played on land.

I'm surprised no one has brought up the mandatory sound signals involved in
a crossing (including overtaking) situation. Until communications are
established, one should assume nothing about the "burdened" vessel.

How does the old Burma Shave jingle go? "He was right, dead right as he
sped along. Now he's just as dead as if he'd been wrong."

Roger

http://home.earthlink.net/~derbyrm
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
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In article . net, Bill
McKee wrote:

"Larry" wrote in message
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Jeff wrote in
:

proper to pass within 15 feet of boats doing 25 MPH shouldn't be out
there.


It's 50 ft in South Carolina...just like for a dock. 200' from the
marina.

--
Larry

I guess you never pass on a 2 lane road. Both oncoming and same
direction
traffic.

What does this have to your dangerous overtaking practice? Nothing.

It's damn obvious that you don't understand the Colregs and have no
intention of accepting that you are *wrong*.

PDW

I was not wrong for several reasons. Number one is the other boat was
also a powerboat. Did not matter if it had sails up or not, it had its
motor running. And the road analogy is the same as ColRegs require. You
have to not make unsafe turns. If I am passing, the other boat has to
continue in the same direction. 17, a, i .

"Roger Derby" wrote in message
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Whether you are wrong in the passing situation is debatable. What is not
debatable is the alienation you've achieved on this boat building
group/list.

That said, you might check some of the many books on maritime law. It's
quite different from that administered on land. Among other things, it
assigns blame (costs) as a function of the degree of guilt. It's not the
winner take all game played on land.

I'm surprised no one has brought up the mandatory sound signals involved
in a crossing (including overtaking) situation. Until communications are
established, one should assume nothing about the "burdened" vessel.

How does the old Burma Shave jingle go? "He was right, dead right as he
sped along. Now he's just as dead as if he'd been wrong."

Roger

http://home.earthlink.net/~derbyrm
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
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In article . net, Bill
McKee wrote:

"Larry" wrote in message
...
Jeff wrote in
:

proper to pass within 15 feet of boats doing 25 MPH shouldn't be out
there.


It's 50 ft in South Carolina...just like for a dock. 200' from the
marina.

--
Larry

I guess you never pass on a 2 lane road. Both oncoming and same
direction
traffic.

What does this have to your dangerous overtaking practice? Nothing.

It's damn obvious that you don't understand the Colregs and have no
intention of accepting that you are *wrong*.

PDW

I was not wrong for several reasons. Number one is the other boat was
also a powerboat. Did not matter if it had sails up or not, it had its
motor running. And the road analogy is the same as ColRegs require. You
have to not make unsafe turns. If I am passing, the other boat has to
continue in the same direction. 17, a, i .


Then you clip the distribution list. I only reply all.

Peter,
Please do not encourage him. Trying to teach a pig to sing.....
He has only just started to read Colregs and then only the parts he
wants. Just keep him away from the legislators or else he will start
calling for direction signals (that he probably does not use in his pick
up) and brake lights (how we get brakes is yet to be determined).
If you think people like this are a not to be carefully watched over by
a competent adult, remember that in several states it is now non-lawful
to be on the foredeck underway.
Matt Colie A.Sloop "Bonne Ide'e"
Lifelong Waterman, Licnesed Mariner and Congenital Sailor

Roger Derby wrote:
Whether you are wrong in the passing situation is debatable. What is not
debatable is the alienation you've achieved on this boat building
group/list.

That said, you might check some of the many books on maritime law. It's
quite different from that administered on land. Among other things, it
assigns blame (costs) as a function of the degree of guilt. It's not the
winner take all game played on land.

I'm surprised no one has brought up the mandatory sound signals involved in
a crossing (including overtaking) situation. Until communications are
established, one should assume nothing about the "burdened" vessel.

How does the old Burma Shave jingle go? "He was right, dead right as he
sped along. Now he's just as dead as if he'd been wrong."

Roger

http://home.earthlink.net/~derbyrm
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In article . net, Bill
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"Larry" wrote in message
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Jeff wrote in
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proper to pass within 15 feet of boats doing 25 MPH shouldn't be out
there.


It's 50 ft in South Carolina...just like for a dock. 200' from the
marina.

--
Larry

I guess you never pass on a 2 lane road. Both oncoming and same
direction
traffic.

What does this have to your dangerous overtaking practice? Nothing.

It's damn obvious that you don't understand the Colregs and have no
intention of accepting that you are *wrong*.

PDW

I was not wrong for several reasons. Number one is the other boat was
also a powerboat. Did not matter if it had sails up or not, it had its
motor running. And the road analogy is the same as ColRegs require. You
have to not make unsafe turns. If I am passing, the other boat has to
continue in the same direction. 17, a, i .

In article , Matt Colie
wrote:

Peter,
Please do not encourage him. Trying to teach a pig to sing.....
He has only just started to read Colregs and then only the parts he
wants.

Yeah, ok. I was going to ask him where on the planet you're allowed to
drive at 200 to 300 mph a couple feet away from a vehicle travelling at
50 mph, but that'd no doubt go over his head too.

Let's hope he argues with a big ship.

PDW

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
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In article , Matt Colie
wrote:

Peter,
Please do not encourage him. Trying to teach a pig to sing.....
He has only just started to read Colregs and then only the parts he
wants.

Yeah, ok. I was going to ask him where on the planet you're allowed to
drive at 200 to 300 mph a couple feet away from a vehicle travelling at
50 mph, but that'd no doubt go over his head too.

Let's hope he argues with a big ship.

PDW

Planet Earth. And I am not a sailboater, so know I do not have the "right
of way" over large ships.

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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Planet Earth. And I am not a sailboater, so know I do not have the "right
of way" over large ships.

Mebbe, mebbe not.

otn

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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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Planet Earth. And I am not a sailboater, so know I do not have the
"right of way" over large ships.

Mebbe, mebbe not.

otn


Who has "right of way"?

"Bill McKee" wrote

And I am not a sailboater


That is blatantly obvious.

SBV

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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I was not wrong for several reasons. Number one is the other boat was
also
a powerboat. Did not matter if it had sails up or not, it had its motor
running. And the road analogy is the same as ColRegs require. You have
to
not make unsafe turns. If I am passing, the other boat has to continue in
the same direction. 17, a, i .

Bill. A sailboat is still a sailboat, even if the motor is running. It
has to be in gear with the propulsion machinery in motion to be classified
as a power boat. There are many reasons for a sailboat to have the motor
running and not in gear. Recharging batteries, running a motor driven pump
or other on board device not pertaining to the propulsion of the vessel.

You are still at fault for being too fast and too close if you collide with
the sailboat. Do you not have enough brain power to comprehend this?

Jim C.