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Doug Kanter October 5th 05 02:14 PM


"Netsock" wrote in message
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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 02:12:54 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


It's precisely the towing limit of my truck. Being a Toyota, it's

probably a
conservative number, but still....I don't want to mess up a 10 year
investment. If it was a throwaway like a Chevy or Ford....


ROFLMAO.... and I tow #8,000 with a Colorado.....


throwaway, indeed......


No kidding.

My second truck is a 1989 Chevy Silvarado, with a TBI 350, and 242k miles
on
it.

All original, and still runs great. Has over 30 psi of oil pressure, and
of
those 242k miles...80% were haulin' a boat!

How old are you Dougie?


52. Why do you ask?



Doug Kanter October 5th 05 02:15 PM


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 03:34:06 GMT, "Bill McKee"
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 17:54:31 -0400, "Glenn S."
wrote:

or buy a real truck with a PowerStroke Diesel

Damn straight. :)


Duramax. Quieter, better milage, more pulling power.


With all due respect, bullfeathers. So far this season, I've pulled
two, count 'em two, Duramax GMCs up the ramp at Webster Lake this
summer. I say two, but it was really only one, twice.

They got nuttin'. :)


Why did they need to be pulled?



Doug Kanter October 5th 05 02:46 PM

"Jack Goff" wrote in message
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On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 09:12:21 -0500, "Dan J.S." wrote:


"Jack Goff" wrote in message



I'm not a big GM fan, but my current yard truck is an '89 Chevy 1500.
Original 350 motor, tranny, rear end. Interior and body all original.
Everything works,it drives and rides great, and it still looks good.
At 16 years old, it's worth more than that Toy.

Besides, it'll snatch that puny-assed Toyota all over the place.
3500# towing limit? That's not a towing limit... it's a warning... to
not try to tow anything!



Give it up dude. Any Toyota truck will put ANY GM or Ford truck to shame.


OK, "dude", surf's up. Let's give it a whirl.

Any Toyota truck includes Doug's, so it qualifies, right? Doug's
towing capacity is 3500 lbs (snicker), so when he hooks up to
Shortwave's boat, the game is all over. It can't safely tow the boat
and an ice chest full of fish home. Period.

Enter a Ford F150. It can hookup and tow both the boat and the tiny
Toy truck home with a 8500 lb towing capacity.


I know what I'm about to suggest is completely insane, but were you
interested in comparing similar models? A Ford F-150 cannot be compared to a
Toyota Tacoma.


Who is ashamed now?


Is this about shame? Are you aware that there are drugs that can help with
the REAL issue you've introduced here?



But hey... the Toyota is not a bad vehicle... it will get the
groceries, pick up some ice and beer, make a pizza run... oh, you get
the idea. But if you need to do some real work, tow some real weight,
need a full sized truck, you'll need to look to Ford, GM, or Dodge for
your answer. The ricer trucks are getting close to matching the
capabilities of a standard American truck,. but can't come close to
the abilities af a F-250 or GM 2500 series.

Once again... 3500# towing limit? That's not a towing limit... it's
a warning... to not try to tow anything!


You have to be a moron to own a vehicle capable of towing something you have
no intention of owning.



Don White October 5th 05 03:20 PM

Doug Kanter wrote:
"Jack Goff" wrote in message
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On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 09:12:21 -0500, "Dan J.S." wrote:


"Jack Goff" wrote in message


I'm not a big GM fan, but my current yard truck is an '89 Chevy 1500.
Original 350 motor, tranny, rear end. Interior and body all original.
Everything works,it drives and rides great, and it still looks good.
At 16 years old, it's worth more than that Toy.

Besides, it'll snatch that puny-assed Toyota all over the place.
3500# towing limit? That's not a towing limit... it's a warning... to
not try to tow anything!



Give it up dude. Any Toyota truck will put ANY GM or Ford truck to shame.


OK, "dude", surf's up. Let's give it a whirl.

Any Toyota truck includes Doug's, so it qualifies, right? Doug's
towing capacity is 3500 lbs (snicker), so when he hooks up to
Shortwave's boat, the game is all over. It can't safely tow the boat
and an ice chest full of fish home. Period.

Enter a Ford F150. It can hookup and tow both the boat and the tiny
Toy truck home with a 8500 lb towing capacity.



I know what I'm about to suggest is completely insane, but were you
interested in comparing similar models? A Ford F-150 cannot be compared to a
Toyota Tacoma.



Who is ashamed now?



Is this about shame? Are you aware that there are drugs that can help with
the REAL issue you've introduced here?




But hey... the Toyota is not a bad vehicle... it will get the
groceries, pick up some ice and beer, make a pizza run... oh, you get
the idea. But if you need to do some real work, tow some real weight,
need a full sized truck, you'll need to look to Ford, GM, or Dodge for
your answer. The ricer trucks are getting close to matching the
capabilities of a standard American truck,. but can't come close to
the abilities af a F-250 or GM 2500 series.

Once again... 3500# towing limit? That's not a towing limit... it's
a warning... to not try to tow anything!



You have to be a moron to own a vehicle capable of towing something you have
no intention of owning.


That's right. I have the 2005 Toyota trucks sales brocures right here
in my hands. The 4 cyl 2 wd Tacoma has the 3500 towing capacity. Go to
a 6 cyl and it bumps up to 5000.
Not enough?.... try the 4 wd optional pkg which jumps to 6500 lbs.
Still not enough for the macho crowd?...get a Tundra with a V8 that tops
out at 7300 lbs. i wouldn't trust any of you towing more than that.

ed October 5th 05 03:33 PM

Tom, tell ya what, you can donate that boat to me and I will let you claim
me as a dependent on your taxes for the next 5 years lol If I were working
and making bucks I would buy that boat in a heartbeat.

Edward
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 23:51:59 GMT, "Eisboch"
wrote:


-rick- wrote in message
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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My long suffering wife has finally put her foot down - get rid of one
of the boats and it can't be the Halman.

~~ women ~~

Anyway, I'm willing to make somebody one hell of a deal on a 2000
Ranger 200C CC bay boat with T-top and goodies. I might even throw in
a couple of custom made rods and Penn reels if necessary to seal the
deal. Note the might.

By the by, I mean ONE HELL OF A DEAL. So much so that you could
probably take the boat down south and make a couple of thou.


I'll trade you a cheese hat, three bags of pretzels, and 2 matched pairs

of RCA
6L6's.


(hee, hee, hee .... love it.)

Sorry Tom, but *that* was funny!


Indeed it was.

Who knew Darwinists had a sense of humor? :)




Doug Kanter October 5th 05 05:00 PM


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 13:15:04 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 03:34:06 GMT, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 17:54:31 -0400, "Glenn S."
wrote:

or buy a real truck with a PowerStroke Diesel

Damn straight. :)

Duramax. Quieter, better milage, more pulling power.

With all due respect, bullfeathers. So far this season, I've pulled
two, count 'em two, Duramax GMCs up the ramp at Webster Lake this
summer. I say two, but it was really only one, twice.

They got nuttin'. :)


Why did they need to be pulled?


Ok, I'll fess up.

The driver was an idiot. :)


Spinning the wheels on the nice algae coated ramp?



Doug Kanter October 5th 05 05:30 PM


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 16:00:09 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 13:15:04 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 03:34:06 GMT, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:nju5k119gturc630cffd0752m5gt3tmhc7@4ax. com...
On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 17:54:31 -0400, "Glenn S."
wrote:

or buy a real truck with a PowerStroke Diesel

Damn straight. :)

Duramax. Quieter, better milage, more pulling power.

With all due respect, bullfeathers. So far this season, I've pulled
two, count 'em two, Duramax GMCs up the ramp at Webster Lake this
summer. I say two, but it was really only one, twice.

They got nuttin'. :)

Why did they need to be pulled?

Ok, I'll fess up.

The driver was an idiot. :)


Spinning the wheels on the nice algae coated ramp?


Pretty much.


Some trucks have a funny little stick that puts them into a lower set of
gears for slippery situations. However, some people believe the stick's only
purpose is for hanging a plastic trash bag.



Bill McKee October 5th 05 08:50 PM


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 13:15:04 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 03:34:06 GMT, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 17:54:31 -0400, "Glenn S."
wrote:

or buy a real truck with a PowerStroke Diesel

Damn straight. :)

Duramax. Quieter, better milage, more pulling power.

With all due respect, bullfeathers. So far this season, I've pulled
two, count 'em two, Duramax GMCs up the ramp at Webster Lake this
summer. I say two, but it was really only one, twice.

They got nuttin'. :)


Why did they need to be pulled?


Ok, I'll fess up.

The driver was an idiot. :)


I met the same driver a couple of years ago at Lake Shasta. New 4x4
Avalanche. Tries to retreive the boat across the only muddy area of the
shore. Beach launch. Keeps spinning the wheels and digs himself in deeper.



Bill McKee October 5th 05 08:57 PM


"Don White" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:
"Jack Goff" wrote in message
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On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 09:12:21 -0500, "Dan J.S." wrote:


"Jack Goff" wrote in message

I'm not a big GM fan, but my current yard truck is an '89 Chevy 1500.
Original 350 motor, tranny, rear end. Interior and body all original.
Everything works,it drives and rides great, and it still looks good.
At 16 years old, it's worth more than that Toy.

Besides, it'll snatch that puny-assed Toyota all over the place.
3500# towing limit? That's not a towing limit... it's a warning... to
not try to tow anything!



Give it up dude. Any Toyota truck will put ANY GM or Ford truck to
shame.


OK, "dude", surf's up. Let's give it a whirl.

Any Toyota truck includes Doug's, so it qualifies, right? Doug's
towing capacity is 3500 lbs (snicker), so when he hooks up to
Shortwave's boat, the game is all over. It can't safely tow the boat
and an ice chest full of fish home. Period.

Enter a Ford F150. It can hookup and tow both the boat and the tiny
Toy truck home with a 8500 lb towing capacity.



I know what I'm about to suggest is completely insane, but were you
interested in comparing similar models? A Ford F-150 cannot be compared
to a Toyota Tacoma.



Who is ashamed now?



Is this about shame? Are you aware that there are drugs that can help
with the REAL issue you've introduced here?




But hey... the Toyota is not a bad vehicle... it will get the
groceries, pick up some ice and beer, make a pizza run... oh, you get
the idea. But if you need to do some real work, tow some real weight,
need a full sized truck, you'll need to look to Ford, GM, or Dodge for
your answer. The ricer trucks are getting close to matching the
capabilities of a standard American truck,. but can't come close to
the abilities af a F-250 or GM 2500 series.

Once again... 3500# towing limit? That's not a towing limit... it's
a warning... to not try to tow anything!



You have to be a moron to own a vehicle capable of towing something you
have no intention of owning.

That's right. I have the 2005 Toyota trucks sales brocures right here in
my hands. The 4 cyl 2 wd Tacoma has the 3500 towing capacity. Go to a 6
cyl and it bumps up to 5000.
Not enough?.... try the 4 wd optional pkg which jumps to 6500 lbs.
Still not enough for the macho crowd?...get a Tundra with a V8 that tops
out at 7300 lbs. i wouldn't trust any of you towing more than that.


And try to tow that 5000# up a hill with that wimpy 6 cylinder. You will
make it, in low gear and a crawl. There is lots to be said for Toyotas, but
trying to pull 5000# with a small motor is not what you want to do. Short
life, and poor performance. My Expedition with a 5.4L 4x4 would tow my
4500# boat up steep grades, but it also suffered from performance in hte
mountains. My Duramax gets 20% better milage and does not slow down for
those big hills. Towing my daughters 2000 POS 4 dr Explorer home on a UHaul
trailer, and averaged 62 mph according to the trip computer, including the
Grapevine on I-5 and I do not think I ever towed over 70 coming home. 14.9
mpg also.



Doug Kanter October 5th 05 09:22 PM

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
ink.net...

And try to tow that 5000# up a hill with that wimpy 6 cylinder. You will
make it, in low gear and a crawl. There is lots to be said for Toyotas,
but trying to pull 5000# with a small motor is not what you want to do.
Short life, and poor performance.


This is probably why someone would opt for the 8 cylinder Tundra instead of
the 6. I could be wrong, though.




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