On 14 Jul 2004 02:11:21 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

mark, you defended well a poster whose handle is "steve". Unfortunately, you
assumed "steve" is rational. if you knew "steve" a bit more from his wild
claims of knowledge, you would snicker at him like the seventh grade kids do.

You wanna talk about wild claims of knowledge laughed at by seventh
grade kids, here are some of jox's claims:

By definition, the Earth's surface is planar.

An ICBM has no navigation system.

There's no outside reference when using DR to navigate.

It costs $15,000/year to make 10gals of water/day with a shipboard
watermaker.

You must use an isp to read a usenet newsgroup.

The human head can take about a 7 G blow before death becomes certain.

A rhumb line is a straight line on any chart, Mercator chart (sic) or
otherwise.

A rhumb is distance between two points one compass point apart.

Alternators are (for all practical purposes) capable of only producing
one voltage, no matter the rpm.

If you can see outside reference points, then you KNOW where you are...

There is no such thing as a north seeking gyro.

Yes Jox, you are a riot.

Steve

Steven Shelikoff wrote:
You must use an isp to read a usenet newsgroup.

Well, you have to have *some* sort of Internet connection, at least
intermittently. If you have an Internet connection, you're getting it from
some service provider. That provider may or may not be a commercial ISP,
but they are an ISP of some sort.

Shawn

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:42:53 -0600, Shawn Willden
wrote:

Steven Shelikoff wrote:
You must use an isp to read a usenet newsgroup.

Well, you have to have *some* sort of Internet connection, at least
intermittently. If you have an Internet connection, you're getting it from
some service provider. That provider may or may not be a commercial ISP,
but they are an ISP of some sort.

You're making the same mistake he made. No, you don't need an internet
connection of any type to read usenet newsgroups. You can get a
newsfeed without an ISP. The usenet has been around much longer than
the commercial internet as we know it today and for the most part used
UUCP to transfer messages. And you can still use that method without
having any internet access at all.

Of course, when this was all pointed out to Jax and he just huffed and
denied it, as is his usual MO when someone points out a mistake of his,
when the much easier and saner thing to do is to just admit a mistake
and move on. No one's perfect... but Jox thinks he is even though he's
wrong in just about everything he says.

Steve

(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ...
On 14 Jul 2004 02:11:21 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

mark, you defended well a poster whose handle is "steve". Unfortunately, you
assumed "steve" is rational. if you knew "steve" a bit more from his wild
claims of knowledge, you would snicker at him like the seventh grade kids do.

You wanna talk about wild claims of knowledge laughed at by seventh
grade kids, here are some of jox's claims:

By definition, the Earth's surface is planar.

An ICBM has no navigation system.

There's no outside reference when using DR to navigate.

It costs $15,000/year to make 10gals of water/day with a shipboard
watermaker.

You must use an isp to read a usenet newsgroup.

The human head can take about a 7 G blow before death becomes certain.

A rhumb line is a straight line on any chart, Mercator chart (sic) or
otherwise.

A rhumb is distance between two points one compass point apart.

Alternators are (for all practical purposes) capable of only producing
one voltage, no matter the rpm.

If you can see outside reference points, then you KNOW where you are...

There is no such thing as a north seeking gyro.

Yes Jox, you are a riot.

Steve

Wow, I should have paid more attention to Jax's ramblings, they ARE
quite humorous! Now, in context, did he REALLY say that the earth's
surface was planar? The rest I can put off to just not knowing, but
that one is just foolish!

(JAXAshby) wrote in message ...
kass****er, go to any marine dealer and tell the guy behind the parts counter
you want "some plugs" for your "yacht" engine. tell him you want to be sure
the plugs have been "cleaned" and you won't let him try to slip unclean plugs
in on you. To impress him so he knows who you are, wear your fake Rolex, a rug
and a gaudy pinkie ring. Tell him how big your woman's tits are now that she
had them fixed again. Lay your gold Visa card on the counter to let the guy
know you are serious about those plugs. Make sure to tell the guy you a a
Kitten diesel engine or maybe a Jim Dear or a DDD 44's or a Ky-Boatah or a
DEEtroit 7-61 with mechanical turbo-charger. Tell him your woman likes it on
top the steering wheel while your yacht is cruising along at 90 knots per hour.

GAWD, you are stupid beyond comprehension!!! He'd simply ask what KIND
of plug I needed. Unlike you, he'd know that PLUG is a very generic
term when it comes to engines, whether diesel or gas. He'd simply prod
for more information. Unlike you, who heard the word "plug", and
automatically, and blindly, ignored any other type of plug, and went
for spark plugs.

Shawn, "steve" is easily confused. he had no idea how the internet is
structured.

Steven Shelikoff wrote:
You must use an isp to read a usenet newsgroup.

Well, you have to have *some* sort of Internet connection, at least
intermittently. If you have an Internet connection, you're getting it from
some service provider. That provider may or may not be a commercial ISP,
but they are an ISP of some sort.

Shawn

"steve", ARPANET is long since gone.

Steven Shelikoff wrote:
You must use an isp to read a usenet newsgroup.

Well, you have to have *some* sort of Internet connection, at least
intermittently. If you have an Internet connection, you're getting it from
some service provider. That provider may or may not be a commercial ISP,
but they are an ISP of some sort.

You're making the same mistake he made. No, you don't need an internet
connection of any type to read usenet newsgroups. You can get a
newsfeed without an ISP. The usenet has been around much longer than
the commercial internet as we know it today and for the most part used
UUCP to transfer messages. And you can still use that method without
having any internet access at all.

Of course, when this was all pointed out to Jax and he just huffed and
denied it, as is his usual MO when someone points out a mistake of his,
when the much easier and saner thing to do is to just admit a mistake
and move on. No one's perfect... but Jox thinks he is even though he's
wrong in just about everything he says.

Steve

no, base kisser, the statement was made that across the distance from NYC to
Phildelphia the surface of the Earth is less than a meter or so from planer and
therefore there is no need to calculate curvature to know the distance to sail
a boat. "steve" didn't understand that .

"steve" also doesn't understand the meaning of the word "ballistic", which has
too many sylables. nor does he understand what deduced reckoning is, but
thinks it means watching for lighthouses and nav marks.

no does "steve" have any rational clew what cost accounting is (nevermind it
has been a thoroughly understood business principal for more than forty years),
nor does he have anyremote clew that differences (there are many, many, many)
between a generator and an alternator.

no does he have an rational clew how a gyroscope works.

"steve" has not shown himself to be rational.

If you can see outside reference points, then you KNOW where you are...

"steve", who is not known for rational thought, makes that claim that the above
statement is false, in essence saying that if you can see where you are you
still don't know where you are.

why "steve" says that is anybody's guess.

go ahead, base kisser, ask him. It will be a new experience for you, going to
parts counter.

kass****er, go to any marine dealer and tell the guy behind the parts
counter
you want "some plugs" for your "yacht" engine. tell him you want to be
sure
the plugs have been "cleaned" and you won't let him try to slip unclean
plugs
in on you. To impress him so he knows who you are, wear your fake Rolex, a
rug
and a gaudy pinkie ring. Tell him how big your woman's tits are now that
she
had them fixed again. Lay your gold Visa card on the counter to let the
guy
know you are serious about those plugs. Make sure to tell the guy you a a
Kitten diesel engine or maybe a Jim Dear or a DDD 44's or a Ky-Boatah or a
DEEtroit 7-61 with mechanical turbo-charger. Tell him your woman likes it
on
top the steering wheel while your yacht is cruising along at 90 knots per
hour.

GAWD, you are stupid beyond comprehension!!! He'd simply ask what KIND
of plug I needed. Unlike you, he'd know that PLUG is a very generic
term when it comes to engines, whether diesel or gas. He'd simply prod
for more information. Unlike you, who heard the word "plug", and
automatically, and blindly, ignored any other type of plug, and went
for spark plugs.