JAXAshby wrote:
schlackoff, *you* were the one claiming that reference points were not needed
to determine position, and *you* were the one claiming that the sun could never
be a reference point.

There you go again making unsubstantiated claims. When are you going to
learn that it only makes you look like more of an idiot when you try and
back up one unsubstantiated claim with another?

little boy, it seem apparent you have not a clew what the word "reference"
means, most certainly not in the context of a point.

You're the one who made the claim that if you can see a reference point
then you know where you are. Now you're claiming that the sun can not
be a reference point ... because otherwise you would know exactly where
you are by simply seeing the sun.

It's your turn to decide: Is the sun a reference point? And if so, do
you always know where you are simply by seeing the sun?

Steve


schlackoff? are you purposely trying to appear dense, or are you really,
really stew ped? It appears you don't understand one word in five in any
normal sentence.

As we all know by now, that's your way of admitting you're wrong, and
you cannot determine your position simply by seeing a reference point as
you have claimed.

Steve

JAXAshby wrote:
schlackoff, it obvious you have not a clew what the word "reference" means. a
reference point has properties. I doubt you know what the word "properties"
means either.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=reference
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=properties

And from:

http://dictionary.reference.com/sear...erence%20point

reference point

n : an indicator that orients you generally; "it is used as a reference
for comparing the heating and the electrical energy involved" [syn:
point of reference, reference]

So, for example, the sun is a reference point because in the morning,
you know that the direction the sun is in is generally east. So, now
tell us how you can pinpoint your location if you can see the sun (a
***reference point***) and know that your ***reference point*** is
generally in the east direction.

Remember, you claimed that "if you can see a reference point, you know
where you are."

The sun is a reference point because it fits the definition, i.e., it's
an indicator that orients you generally, i.e., you know you are facing
generally east if you are facing the sun in the morning. Are you
actually going to continue to try and claim that you know exactly where
you are simply because you know you're facing generally east? Are you
really trying to say you're actually that stewpid?

Steve



schlackoff, *you* were the one claiming that reference points were not

needed

to determine position, and *you* were the one claiming that the sun could

never

be a reference point.

There you go again making unsubstantiated claims. When are you going to
learn that it only makes you look like more of an idiot when you try and
back up one unsubstantiated claim with another?


little boy, it seem apparent you have not a clew what the word "reference"
means, most certainly not in the context of a point.

You're the one who made the claim that if you can see a reference point
then you know where you are. Now you're claiming that the sun can not
be a reference point ... because otherwise you would know exactly where
you are by simply seeing the sun.

It's your turn to decide: Is the sun a reference point? And if so, do
you always know where you are simply by seeing the sun?

Steve



schlackoff? are you purposely trying to appear dense, or are you really,
really stew ped? It appears you don't understand one word in five in any
normal sentence.

As we all know by now, that's your way of admitting you're wrong, and
you cannot determine your position simply by seeing a reference point as
you have claimed.

Steve

schlackoff, it obvious you have not a clew what the word "reference" means. a
reference point has properties. I doubt you know what the word "properties"
means either.

schlackoff, *you* were the one claiming that reference points were not
needed
to determine position, and *you* were the one claiming that the sun could
never
be a reference point.

There you go again making unsubstantiated claims. When are you going to
learn that it only makes you look like more of an idiot when you try and
back up one unsubstantiated claim with another?

little boy, it seem apparent you have not a clew what the word "reference"
means, most certainly not in the context of a point.

You're the one who made the claim that if you can see a reference point
then you know where you are. Now you're claiming that the sun can not
be a reference point ... because otherwise you would know exactly where
you are by simply seeing the sun.

It's your turn to decide: Is the sun a reference point? And if so, do
you always know where you are simply by seeing the sun?

Steve


schlackoff? are you purposely trying to appear dense, or are you really,
really stew ped? It appears you don't understand one word in five in any
normal sentence.

As we all know by now, that's your way of admitting you're wrong, and
you cannot determine your position simply by seeing a reference point as
you have claimed.

Steve

JAXAshby wrote:
reference point

n : an indicator that orients you generally; "it is used as a reference
for comparing the heating and the electrical energy involved"


yup, shlackoff. I couldn't find a better defintion of a "reference point" in
the context of nautical navigation if I tried.

Thanks for enligthening us.

Tell us again how you know where you are simply by seeing a reference
point. Also, tell us what your definition of reference point is if it's
not the above. It's so fun to watch you prove over and over what an
idiot you are.

Steve

reference point

n : an indicator that orients you generally; "it is used as a reference
for comparing the heating and the electrical energy involved"

yup, shlackoff. I couldn't find a better defintion of a "reference point" in
the context of nautical navigation if I tried.

Thanks for enligthening us.

JAXAshby wrote:
schlackoff, sometimes I feel you act as though you are utterly without native
intelligence (sorta like jeffies, but without a wife to balance the checkbook),
and other times like someone showing the unpredictable effects of serious hard
drugs in the past.

In either event, rational discussion should not be the goal of anyone
attempting conversation with you.

Beautiful. I know that being the idiot you are, this is the best you
can do. But thanks for finally admitting you were wrong when you said
if you can see a reference point then you know where you are.

Steve

reference point

n : an indicator that orients you generally; "it is used as a reference
for comparing the heating and the electrical energy involved"


yup, shlackoff. I couldn't find a better defintion of a "reference point"

in

the context of nautical navigation if I tried.

Thanks for enligthening us.

Tell us again how you know where you are simply by seeing a reference
point. Also, tell us what your definition of reference point is if it's
not the above. It's so fun to watch you prove over and over what an
idiot you are.

Steve

(JAXAshby) wrote in message ...
reference point

n : an indicator that orients you generally; "it is used as a reference
for comparing the heating and the electrical energy involved"

yup, shlackoff. I couldn't find a better defintion of a "reference point" in
the context of nautical navigation if I tried.

Thanks for enligthening us.

Steve, don't feed the animals!

schlackoff, sometimes I feel you act as though you are utterly without native
intelligence (sorta like jeffies, but without a wife to balance the checkbook),
and other times like someone showing the unpredictable effects of serious hard
drugs in the past.

In either event, rational discussion should not be the goal of anyone
attempting conversation with you.

reference point

n : an indicator that orients you generally; "it is used as a reference
for comparing the heating and the electrical energy involved"


yup, shlackoff. I couldn't find a better defintion of a "reference point"
in
the context of nautical navigation if I tried.

Thanks for enligthening us.

Tell us again how you know where you are simply by seeing a reference
point. Also, tell us what your definition of reference point is if it's
not the above. It's so fun to watch you prove over and over what an
idiot you are.

Steve

schlackoff, you are utterly beyond hope.

I hope you believe in an afterlife, because you most certainly are lost to this
one.

schlackoff, sometimes I feel you act as though you are utterly without
native
intelligence (sorta like jeffies, but without a wife to balance the
checkbook),
and other times like someone showing the unpredictable effects of serious
hard
drugs in the past.

In either event, rational discussion should not be the goal of anyone
attempting conversation with you.

Beautiful. I know that being the idiot you are, this is the best you
can do. But thanks for finally admitting you were wrong when you said
if you can see a reference point then you know where you are.

Steve

reference point

n : an indicator that orients you generally; "it is used as a reference
for comparing the heating and the electrical energy involved"


yup, shlackoff. I couldn't find a better defintion of a "reference point"

in

the context of nautical navigation if I tried.

Thanks for enligthening us.

Tell us again how you know where you are simply by seeing a reference
point. Also, tell us what your definition of reference point is if it's
not the above. It's so fun to watch you prove over and over what an
idiot you are.

Steve

JAXAshby wrote:
schlackoff, you are utterly beyond hope.

I hope you believe in an afterlife, because you most certainly are lost to this
one.

Ah, back to the afterlife slur. An oldie but goodie.

Steve


schlackoff, sometimes I feel you act as though you are utterly without

native

intelligence (sorta like jeffies, but without a wife to balance the

checkbook),

and other times like someone showing the unpredictable effects of serious

hard

drugs in the past.

In either event, rational discussion should not be the goal of anyone
attempting conversation with you.

Beautiful. I know that being the idiot you are, this is the best you
can do. But thanks for finally admitting you were wrong when you said
if you can see a reference point then you know where you are.

Steve


reference point

n : an indicator that orients you generally; "it is used as a reference
for comparing the heating and the electrical energy involved"


yup, shlackoff. I couldn't find a better defintion of a "reference point"

in


the context of nautical navigation if I tried.

Thanks for enligthening us.

Tell us again how you know where you are simply by seeing a reference
point. Also, tell us what your definition of reference point is if it's
not the above. It's so fun to watch you prove over and over what an
idiot you are.

Steve