OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

So, what is it, JoeTechnician, are you a licensed engineer or not. You
have stated as follows:
First, that you WERE indeed, a licensed engineer in the states of
Florida and Georgia.
Then, you stated that you weren't a licensed engineer.
Then, you stated again, that you WERE licensed, but not as an
engineer.
Then you said that you weren't licensed, because you didn't NEED to
be.
Then you said you weren't licensed in Georgia.
Then you said you had reciprocity in Georgia.

Now, I ask, if you aren't licensed in Georgia, and you don't need to
be.....
WHAT to HELL is the reciprocity FOR???

JoeTechnician, you've flip-flopped all over the place. Hell, a decent
cable installer would have enough sense to know whether or not he was
licensed, whether he needed to be licensed, and what he was licensed
for.

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

"Joe" wrote in message .. .
Boy are you going over the edge.

I'm going over the edge? Seems that you, JoeTechnician, are the one
who has GONE over! You don't know whether or not you need a license in
Florida. You don't know whether you HAVE a license in Florida, you
don't know whether or not you need a license in Georgia, you don't
know whether or not you HAVE a license in Georgia, you don't know
whether or not you have reciprocity in Georgia.

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

Hey Joe in Canada we would say your full of **** !! What a suprise
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
So, what is it, JoeTechnician, are you a licensed engineer or not. You
have stated as follows:
First, that you WERE indeed, a licensed engineer in the states of
Florida and Georgia.
Then, you stated that you weren't a licensed engineer.
Then, you stated again, that you WERE licensed, but not as an
engineer.
Then you said that you weren't licensed, because you didn't NEED to
be.
Then you said you weren't licensed in Georgia.
Then you said you had reciprocity in Georgia.

Now, I ask, if you aren't licensed in Georgia, and you don't need to
be.....
WHAT to HELL is the reciprocity FOR???

JoeTechnician, you've flip-flopped all over the place. Hell, a decent
cable installer would have enough sense to know whether or not he was
licensed, whether he needed to be licensed, and what he was licensed
for.

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

On 7 Aug 2003 04:25:08 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

I'm going over the edge? Seems that you, JoeTechnician, are the one
who has GONE over! You don't know whether or not you need a license in
Florida. You don't know whether you HAVE a license in Florida, you
don't know whether or not you need a license in Georgia, you don't
know whether or not you HAVE a license in Georgia, you don't know
whether or not you have reciprocity in Georgia.
=====================================
Does anyone other than you care?

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 17:53:22 GMT, "Joe" wrote:

Boy are you going over the edge.


Joe- I have no idea what prompted this thread, but "Thank you" for
many good service tips.

noah

Courtesy of Lee Yeaton,
See the boats of rec.boats
www.TheBayGuide.com/rec.boats

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

And you would be the one full of ****. You can be an engineer in most
states without registration. As a communications engineer, there is no
registration required in most states. Just can not call yourself
"Registered Engineer" "Professional Engineer" "Consulting Engineer".
"Software Engineer" is OK, "Electronics Engineer" is OK, etc. Seeing
asskissers response to burning no oil in normal operation, I would not use
him or his employer in any capacity for any civil engineering needs. Odd
that my Diploma says "Bachelors of Science in Engineering". Never been in
an engineering job in the computer world that required I get the PE.
Bill


"Peter Wedeles" wrote in message
.. .
Hey Joe in Canada we would say your full of **** !! What a suprise
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
So, what is it, JoeTechnician, are you a licensed engineer or not. You
have stated as follows:
First, that you WERE indeed, a licensed engineer in the states of
Florida and Georgia.
Then, you stated that you weren't a licensed engineer.
Then, you stated again, that you WERE licensed, but not as an
engineer.
Then you said that you weren't licensed, because you didn't NEED to
be.
Then you said you weren't licensed in Georgia.
Then you said you had reciprocity in Georgia.

Now, I ask, if you aren't licensed in Georgia, and you don't need to
be.....
WHAT to HELL is the reciprocity FOR???

JoeTechnician, you've flip-flopped all over the place. Hell, a decent
cable installer would have enough sense to know whether or not he was
licensed, whether he needed to be licensed, and what he was licensed
for.

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:

And you would be the one full of ****. You can be an engineer in most
states without registration. As a communications engineer, there is no
registration required in most states. Just can not call yourself
"Registered Engineer" "Professional Engineer" "Consulting Engineer".
"Software Engineer" is OK, "Electronics Engineer" is OK, etc. Seeing
asskissers response to burning no oil in normal operation, I would not use
him or his employer in any capacity for any civil engineering needs. Odd
that my Diploma says "Bachelors of Science in Engineering". Never been in
an engineering job in the computer world that required I get the PE.
Bill


Way back when, at my alma mater, the guys in the various engineering
schools used to say about themselves:

"Before I got to this college, I couldn't spell engineer.
Now I are one."


I would have guessed as much based on the quality of college you most likely attended.

My daughter is entering a Mechanical Engineering program at a prominent Midwestern
college. Here is what they say:

Qualifications: The College of Engineering enrollment is selective-students typically
rank in the upper 20 percent or higher of their high school graduating class and score
an average ACT composite of 26 or higher (or SAT combined scores of 1180 or higher).
University admitted students who score an ACT Math of 24 or higher (or an SAT Math of
560 or higher) will be enrolled directly in the College. Selection is not determined by
numbers alone, however. Applicants will be carefully reviewed for convincing evidence
of a student's capacity to succeed as an engineering student.

Program: 5 academic years with heavy emphasis on math, physics, materials science,
engineering, graphics (CAD).

A friend of my daughter said the program is tougher than the pre-med program he was in.

The admissions standards for your alma mater are obviously rock bottom.

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

Jim wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:

And you would be the one full of ****. You can be an engineer in most
states without registration. As a communications engineer, there is no
registration required in most states. Just can not call yourself
"Registered Engineer" "Professional Engineer" "Consulting Engineer".
"Software Engineer" is OK, "Electronics Engineer" is OK, etc. Seeing
asskissers response to burning no oil in normal operation, I would not use
him or his employer in any capacity for any civil engineering needs. Odd
that my Diploma says "Bachelors of Science in Engineering". Never been in
an engineering job in the computer world that required I get the PE.
Bill


Way back when, at my alma mater, the guys in the various engineering
schools used to say about themselves:

"Before I got to this college, I couldn't spell engineer.
Now I are one."


I would have guessed as much based on the quality of college you most likely attended.

And, as usual, your guess would have been wrong. But, then, you don't
get much right, do you, other than your politics.


My daughter is entering a Mechanical Engineering program at a prominent Midwestern
college.

Her mother must be the bright parent, eh?


Here is what they say:

Qualifications: The College of Engineering enrollment is selective-students typically
rank in the upper 20 percent or higher of their high school graduating class and score
an average ACT composite of 26 or higher (or SAT combined scores of 1180 or higher).


1180? For both? Pretty fripping low.



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It is really a blast being able to pull your strings.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:

And you would be the one full of ****. You can be an engineer in most
states without registration. As a communications engineer, there is no
registration required in most states. Just can not call yourself
"Registered Engineer" "Professional Engineer" "Consulting Engineer".
"Software Engineer" is OK, "Electronics Engineer" is OK, etc. Seeing
asskissers response to burning no oil in normal operation, I would not use
him or his employer in any capacity for any civil engineering needs. Odd
that my Diploma says "Bachelors of Science in Engineering". Never been in
an engineering job in the computer world that required I get the PE.
Bill


Way back when, at my alma mater, the guys in the various engineering
schools used to say about themselves:

"Before I got to this college, I couldn't spell engineer.
Now I are one."


I would have guessed as much based on the quality of college you most likely
attended.

And, as usual, your guess would have been wrong. But, then, you don't
get much right, do you, other than your politics.


My daughter is entering a Mechanical Engineering program at a prominent Midwestern
college.

Her mother must be the bright parent, eh?


Here is what they say:

Qualifications: The College of Engineering enrollment is selective-students
typically
rank in the upper 20 percent or higher of their high school graduating class and
score
an average ACT composite of 26 or higher (or SAT combined scores of 1180 or
higher).


1180? For both? Pretty fripping low.



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Jim, Hate to disagree, and I'm sure your daughter is in a fine program but a
bachelor's degree is not required in the state of NC to get your PE. I'm
glad she is pursuing her bachelors and hope my daughter pursues the same.
While I realize NC is very poor in public education, the university system
is not that shabby.
"Jim" wrote in message
news:0bhZa.73705$cF.22510@rwcrnsc53...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:

And you would be the one full of ****. You can be an engineer in most
states without registration. As a communications engineer, there is
no
registration required in most states. Just can not call yourself
"Registered Engineer" "Professional Engineer" "Consulting Engineer".
"Software Engineer" is OK, "Electronics Engineer" is OK, etc. Seeing
asskissers response to burning no oil in normal operation, I would not
use
him or his employer in any capacity for any civil engineering needs.
Odd
that my Diploma says "Bachelors of Science in Engineering". Never
been in
an engineering job in the computer world that required I get the PE.
Bill


Way back when, at my alma mater, the guys in the various engineering
schools used to say about themselves:

"Before I got to this college, I couldn't spell engineer.
Now I are one."


I would have guessed as much based on the quality of college you most
likely attended.

My daughter is entering a Mechanical Engineering program at a prominent
Midwestern
college. Here is what they say:

Qualifications: The College of Engineering enrollment is
selective-students typically
rank in the upper 20 percent or higher of their high school graduating
class and score
an average ACT composite of 26 or higher (or SAT combined scores of 1180
or higher).
University admitted students who score an ACT Math of 24 or higher (or an
SAT Math of
560 or higher) will be enrolled directly in the College. Selection is not
determined by
numbers alone, however. Applicants will be carefully reviewed for
convincing evidence
of a student's capacity to succeed as an engineering student.

Program: 5 academic years with heavy emphasis on math, physics, materials
science,
engineering, graphics (CAD).

A friend of my daughter said the program is tougher than the pre-med
program he was in.

The admissions standards for your alma mater are obviously rock bottom.

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

I never said anything to the contrary Michael. All I did was let old Harry know the
low standards his Alma Mater maintains.


"Michael Seeley" wrote in message
hlink.net...
Jim, Hate to disagree, and I'm sure your daughter is in a fine program but a
bachelor's degree is not required in the state of NC to get your PE. I'm
glad she is pursuing her bachelors and hope my daughter pursues the same.
While I realize NC is very poor in public education, the university system
is not that shabby.
"Jim" wrote in message
news:0bhZa.73705$cF.22510@rwcrnsc53...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:

And you would be the one full of ****. You can be an engineer in most
states without registration. As a communications engineer, there is
no
registration required in most states. Just can not call yourself
"Registered Engineer" "Professional Engineer" "Consulting Engineer".
"Software Engineer" is OK, "Electronics Engineer" is OK, etc. Seeing
asskissers response to burning no oil in normal operation, I would not
use
him or his employer in any capacity for any civil engineering needs.
Odd
that my Diploma says "Bachelors of Science in Engineering". Never
been in
an engineering job in the computer world that required I get the PE.
Bill


Way back when, at my alma mater, the guys in the various engineering
schools used to say about themselves:

"Before I got to this college, I couldn't spell engineer.
Now I are one."


I would have guessed as much based on the quality of college you most
likely attended.

My daughter is entering a Mechanical Engineering program at a prominent
Midwestern
college. Here is what they say:

Qualifications: The College of Engineering enrollment is
selective-students typically
rank in the upper 20 percent or higher of their high school graduating
class and score
an average ACT composite of 26 or higher (or SAT combined scores of 1180
or higher).
University admitted students who score an ACT Math of 24 or higher (or an
SAT Math of
560 or higher) will be enrolled directly in the College. Selection is not
determined by
numbers alone, however. Applicants will be carefully reviewed for
convincing evidence
of a student's capacity to succeed as an engineering student.

Program: 5 academic years with heavy emphasis on math, physics, materials
science,
engineering, graphics (CAD).

A friend of my daughter said the program is tougher than the pre-med
program he was in.

The admissions standards for your alma mater are obviously rock bottom.

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

Tug, tug...pull, pull.

Yep, I have the right strings!

ROTFLMAO!




"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:
It is really a blast being able to pull your strings.



I doubt you can pull your...

Well, this is a family newsgroup...nevermind.



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OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

It sounds like the problem was that your alma mater had very low standards,
if their engineer students were so poorly educated.

Based upon your personal attacks on people, it appears that might be the
source of your insecurity. You never felt that you were good enough, and
the only way you can feel better is to put down other people.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:

And you would be the one full of ****. You can be an engineer in most
states without registration. As a communications engineer, there is no
registration required in most states. Just can not call yourself
"Registered Engineer" "Professional Engineer" "Consulting Engineer".
"Software Engineer" is OK, "Electronics Engineer" is OK, etc. Seeing
asskissers response to burning no oil in normal operation, I would not
use
him or his employer in any capacity for any civil engineering needs.
Odd
that my Diploma says "Bachelors of Science in Engineering". Never been
in
an engineering job in the computer world that required I get the PE.
Bill


Way back when, at my alma mater, the guys in the various engineering
schools used to say about themselves:

"Before I got to this college, I couldn't spell engineer.
Now I are one."





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OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

If you are going to clip, at least leave the attributes to the correct
person. Harry is full of crap, but my reply was not to him. I was replying
to the one who said I was full of ****. My school had great standards for
Engineering students. Now the liberal arts side was a lot of flaky.
Protest the president of the School, Dr. Hyakawa for requiring proper speech
and manners. And I only attack a few dummy's. And Asskisser is a super
dummy! And to insecurity, I was and still am a GREAT ENGINEER.
Semi-retired, looking at starting a new career of General Contractor. And I
would never accept a PE as dumb as Asskisser for any of my jobs that
required a PE signoff. Too much liability.
bill

"Bill Cole" wrote in message
news:RGjZa.74235$cF.22953@rwcrnsc53...
It sounds like the problem was that your alma mater had very low
standards,
if their engineer students were so poorly educated.

Based upon your personal attacks on people, it appears that might be the
source of your insecurity. You never felt that you were good enough, and
the only way you can feel better is to put down other people.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:

And you would be the one full of ****. You can be an engineer in most
states without registration. As a communications engineer, there is
no
registration required in most states. Just can not call yourself
"Registered Engineer" "Professional Engineer" "Consulting Engineer".
"Software Engineer" is OK, "Electronics Engineer" is OK, etc. Seeing
asskissers response to burning no oil in normal operation, I would not
use
him or his employer in any capacity for any civil engineering needs.
Odd
that my Diploma says "Bachelors of Science in Engineering". Never
been
in
an engineering job in the computer world that required I get the PE.
Bill


Way back when, at my alma mater, the guys in the various engineering
schools used to say about themselves:

"Before I got to this college, I couldn't spell engineer.
Now I are one."





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Calif Bill wrote:
If you are going to clip, at least leave the attributes to the correct
person. Harry is full of crap, but my reply was not to him. I was replying
to the one who said I was full of ****.

Your funniest response ever, Bill. We know you're not full; if you were,
there wouldn't be any room for the toilet tissue.

My school had great standards for
Engineering students. Now the liberal arts side was a lot of flaky.
Protest the president of the School, Dr. Hyakawa for requiring proper speech
and manners.

That's right...proper speech and manners should never be part of an
education...you're spot on, Bill. After all, if the POTUS can't speak,
why should you, eh?

And you've grossly misspelled the good Doctor's name, BTW.



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Bill Cole wrote:

It sounds like the problem was that your alma mater had very low standards,
if their engineer students were so poorly educated.

That would be "its engineering students," dummy, not "their engineer"
students. even "her engineering students" would be appropriate.

You obviously do not know that in English, alma mater translates into
something like "fostering mother." If they had been human, Ceres and
Cybele would be turning over in their graves at your gaffe.

As previously pointed out, you need to spend more time with your nose in
a book and less time high-fiving the other right-wing idiots who pollute
this newsgroup. Or perhaps at your alma mater, football was more
important than education. That is, if you have an alma mater. Probably
not, eh?





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Subject: OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
From: "Calif Bill"
Date: 8/9/03 10:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:

If you are going to clip, at least leave the attributes to the correct
person. Harry is full of crap, but my reply was not to him. I was replying
to the one who said I was full of ****. My school had great standards for
Engineering students. Now the liberal arts side was a lot of flaky.
Protest the president of the School, Dr. Hyakawa for requiring proper speech
and manners. And I only attack a few dummy's. And Asskisser is a super
dummy! And to insecurity, I was and still am a GREAT ENGINEER.
Semi-retired, looking at starting a new career of General Contractor. And I
would never accept a PE as dumb as Asskisser for any of my jobs that
required a PE signoff. Too much liability.
bill

why dont you just take the test yourself?

chris

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

ROFLMAO, If that is the best you can do, I guess your school really did
have such low standards they did not believe they should not expect
engineering students to have a basic command of the English Language. I
guess that must be part of the reason for your inferiority complex, you view
education as important, but you did not have the grades or intelligence to
be admitted to a school with high standards.

Has your alma mater admissions standards increased it's standards since you
graduated?

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bill Cole wrote:

It sounds like the problem was that your alma mater had very low
standards,
if their engineer students were so poorly educated.

That would be "its engineering students," dummy, not "their engineer"
students. even "her engineering students" would be appropriate.

You obviously do not know that in English, alma mater translates into
something like "fostering mother." If they had been human, Ceres and
Cybele would be turning over in their graves at your gaffe.

As previously pointed out, you need to spend more time with your nose in
a book and less time high-fiving the other right-wing idiots who pollute
this newsgroup. Or perhaps at your alma mater, football was more
important than education. That is, if you have an alma mater. Probably
not, eh?





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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
If you are going to clip, at least leave the attributes to the correct
person. Harry is full of crap, but my reply was not to him. I was
replying
to the one who said I was full of ****.

Your funniest response ever, Bill. We know you're not full; if you were,
there wouldn't be any room for the toilet tissue.

Makes about as much sense as most of your political comments.


My school had great standards for
Engineering students. Now the liberal arts side was a lot of flaky.
Protest the president of the School, Dr. Hyakawa for requiring proper
speech
and manners.

That's right...proper speech and manners should never be part of an
education...you're spot on, Bill. After all, if the POTUS can't speak,
why should you, eh?

If you are going to have free speech movement, then you should speak well.
Of course the problem with the free speech movement and is still a problem
today, is the liberal arts majors only want free speech when it supports
their opinions. If is contrary to their "Feelings" they disrupt any speech.


And you've grossly misspelled the good Doctor's name, BTW.

I knew it was the wrong spelling, but did not bother looking it up as most
would get the name. And a greater number would have no idea what was being
referred to.




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Bill Cole wrote:
ROFLMAO, If that is the best you can do, I guess your school really did
have such low standards they did not believe they should not expect
engineering students to have a basic command of the English Language.

You don't read very well, do you. I never said the school had no
expectations of engineering students, I said the students made the
statement about themselves, *as a joke on them.*



I
guess that must be part of the reason for your inferiority complex, you view
education as important, but you did not have the grades or intelligence to
be admitted to a school with high standards.

Really? I have B.A. degree from a fairly large university in the Midwest
and an M.A. degree from an Ivy League university in New England.



Has your alma mater admissions standards increased it's standards since you
graduated?

That would be "its" standards, yahoo, not "it's" standards. "It's" is
the contraction for it is. "Its" is the possessive.


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OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

And I like to do Crown Moulding and upgrades to homes and condos.
Bill


Practicing coping without a P.E license?

Wait till asskisser hears about this!

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

So why do you think you have this inferiority complex?

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bill Cole wrote:
ROFLMAO, If that is the best you can do, I guess your school really did
have such low standards they did not believe they should not expect
engineering students to have a basic command of the English Language.

You don't read very well, do you. I never said the school had no
expectations of engineering students, I said the students made the
statement about themselves, *as a joke on them.*



I
guess that must be part of the reason for your inferiority complex, you
view
education as important, but you did not have the grades or intelligence
to
be admitted to a school with high standards.

Really? I have B.A. degree from a fairly large university in the Midwest
and an M.A. degree from an Ivy League university in New England.



Has your alma mater admissions standards increased it's standards since
you
graduated?

That would be "its" standards, yahoo, not "it's" standards. "It's" is
the contraction for it is. "Its" is the possessive.


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so, you are saying that no superior you ever worked for had a PE in your field?
i have no idea how old you are, but you play yourself off as at least fifty.

that being the assumed case, you can't find 4 years worth of a 30 year career
where a PE supervised your work? i understand that some industries may not
require it, but alot of people obtain it just for ambitions sake.

also, it is surprising that you would assume somebody cannot do a required
technical job because of their political leanings (ie basskisser). hell, i
would let NYOB work on my teeth if he turned out to be competent, and there was
no breathing alternative.

chris

Subject: OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
From: "Calif Bill"
Date: 8/10/03 11:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:


"Jamce1" wrote in message
...
Subject: OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
From: "Calif Bill"
Date: 8/9/03 10:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:

snip
and manners. And I only attack a few dummy's. And Asskisser is a super
dummy! And to insecurity, I was and still am a GREAT ENGINEER.
Semi-retired, looking at starting a new career of General Contractor.
And I
would never accept a PE as dumb as Asskisser for any of my jobs that
required a PE signoff. Too much liability.
bill

why dont you just take the test yourself?

chris

I could but the problem is the requirement to work with a PE for 4 years. I
passed the EIT (Engineer In Training) test when I got out of school. Is the
first part of the PE program. But need to work with a PE who signs off on
your suitability. Never worked in the field of engineering that used PE's.
I was an electronics / software engineer for embedded systems. Disk drives,
Disk drive controllers, medical devices. To mature to work for the 4 years
with a PE now. Changing careers to get my General Contractors license. I
have had side business's over the years that dealt with construction. And I
like to do Crown Moulding and upgrades to homes and condos.
Bill

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

I am 60. And basskisser is stupid is why I would not use him as a PE. I
have liberal friends. My former fishing partner is both black and liberal.
No PE's supervised my work. I worked for more startups than big operations.
Just never picked the big winner. Timing was wrong. Turned down a job with
Rolm Corp at 11:30 am one day in 1980 as I had accepted a job at another
company at 10 am. Figure that little miss timing cost me a $100 million at
least. Synoptics, Cisco, etc are all offshoots.
Bill

"Jamce1" wrote in message
...
so, you are saying that no superior you ever worked for had a PE in your
field?
i have no idea how old you are, but you play yourself off as at least
fifty.

that being the assumed case, you can't find 4 years worth of a 30 year
career
where a PE supervised your work? i understand that some industries may not
require it, but alot of people obtain it just for ambitions sake.

also, it is surprising that you would assume somebody cannot do a required
technical job because of their political leanings (ie basskisser). hell, i
would let NYOB work on my teeth if he turned out to be competent, and
there was
no breathing alternative.

chris

Subject: OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
From: "Calif Bill"
Date: 8/10/03 11:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:


"Jamce1" wrote in message
...
Subject: OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
From: "Calif Bill"
Date: 8/9/03 10:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time
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and manners. And I only attack a few dummy's. And Asskisser is a
super
dummy! And to insecurity, I was and still am a GREAT ENGINEER.
Semi-retired, looking at starting a new career of General Contractor.
And I
would never accept a PE as dumb as Asskisser for any of my jobs that
required a PE signoff. Too much liability.
bill

why dont you just take the test yourself?

chris

I could but the problem is the requirement to work with a PE for 4 years.
I
passed the EIT (Engineer In Training) test when I got out of school. Is
the
first part of the PE program. But need to work with a PE who signs off
on
your suitability. Never worked in the field of engineering that used
PE's.
I was an electronics / software engineer for embedded systems. Disk
drives,
Disk drive controllers, medical devices. To mature to work for the 4
years
with a PE now. Changing careers to get my General Contractors license.
I
have had side business's over the years that dealt with construction.
And I
like to do Crown Moulding and upgrades to homes and condos.
Bill

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"Joe" wrote in message ...
And I like to do Crown Moulding and upgrades to homes and condos.
Bill


Practicing coping without a P.E license?

Wait till asskisser hears about this!

Idiot reply. I said you can't legally practice engineering without a
license. Prove me wrong.

Come on, JoeTechnician.

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message ...
And you would be the one full of ****. You can be an engineer in most
states without registration. As a communications engineer, there is no
registration required in most states. Just can not call yourself
"Registered Engineer" "Professional Engineer" "Consulting Engineer".
"Software Engineer" is OK, "Electronics Engineer" is OK, etc. Seeing
asskissers response to burning no oil in normal operation, I would not use
him or his employer in any capacity for any civil engineering needs. Odd
that my Diploma says "Bachelors of Science in Engineering". Never been in
an engineering job in the computer world that required I get the PE.
Bill

Bill, name calling is SO school girlish. It really does nothing to try
to bolster your point.

The company that I contract for does only heavy industrial structural
engineering, therefore you can't hire us. You know nothing of my
engineering capabilities, and never will. Therefore, it is simply
stupid to pretend that you do. Now, you are again WRONG. In MOST
STATES, you can NOT use the word "engineer" in your name, your
company's name, or any advertisement, UNLESS you are a licensed
engineer. Period. Need more proof? I've already posted Georgia's.

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Joe" wrote in message
...
And I like to do Crown Moulding and upgrades to homes and condos.
Bill


Practicing coping without a P.E license?

Wait till asskisser hears about this!

Idiot reply. I said you can't legally practice engineering without a
license. Prove me wrong.

OFTEN ASKED QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS COVERING ENGINEERING PRACTICE
Q. Do I need a license to practice engineering is a corporation such as
Boeing?

A. No. There is an Industrial Exemption that allows engineers to work
without a license with the assumption that the Corporation has a licensed
engineer responsible for all engineering done in the name of the firm.

Q. Can I legally do engineering work without a license in a firm that does
not have a licensed engineer?

A. Yes. But, your work will not be accepted by any government agency that
requires that a licensed engineer stamp all documents.



Here is the reference:



http://www.pseconline.org/Registration/



And that is pretty typical of most states.

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
And you would be the one full of ****. You can be an engineer in most
states without registration. As a communications engineer, there is no
registration required in most states. Just can not call yourself
"Registered Engineer" "Professional Engineer" "Consulting Engineer".
"Software Engineer" is OK, "Electronics Engineer" is OK, etc. Seeing
asskissers response to burning no oil in normal operation, I would not
use
him or his employer in any capacity for any civil engineering needs.
Odd
that my Diploma says "Bachelors of Science in Engineering". Never been
in
an engineering job in the computer world that required I get the PE.
Bill

Bill, name calling is SO school girlish. It really does nothing to try
to bolster your point.

The company that I contract for does only heavy industrial structural
engineering, therefore you can't hire us. You know nothing of my
engineering capabilities, and never will. Therefore, it is simply
stupid to pretend that you do. Now, you are again WRONG. In MOST
STATES, you can NOT use the word "engineer" in your name, your
company's name, or any advertisement, UNLESS you are a licensed
engineer. Period. Need more proof? I've already posted Georgia's.

I do not give a rat's ass for Georgia's regs! In Calif, just can not call
yourself a "Registered, Professional, or Consulting Engineer". If you were
not so stupid, you would learn that fact.
Bill

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message ...
I can cope. My buddy is a PE. He is not stupid like Asskisser. Of course
he had a hard time retiring from a big international construction
corporation as they liked his work.
Bill

Name calling is SO school girlish. What say about THIS, Bill:?

PRACTICING ENGINEERING IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON AND ALL OTHER STATES
IN THE USA
To advertise and offer to practice engineering in all of the states in
the USA requires having an engineering license. To offer to practice
and then accept engineering jobs is against the law punishable as a
misdemeanor

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

Asked and answered.



"Rural Knight" wrote in message
link.net...

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Joe" wrote in message
...
And I like to do Crown Moulding and upgrades to homes and condos.
Bill


Practicing coping without a P.E license?

Wait till asskisser hears about this!

Idiot reply. I said you can't legally practice engineering without a
license. Prove me wrong.

OFTEN ASKED QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS COVERING ENGINEERING PRACTICE
Q. Do I need a license to practice engineering is a corporation such as
Boeing?

A. No. There is an Industrial Exemption that allows engineers to work
without a license with the assumption that the Corporation has a licensed
engineer responsible for all engineering done in the name of the firm.

Q. Can I legally do engineering work without a license in a firm that does
not have a licensed engineer?

A. Yes. But, your work will not be accepted by any government agency that
requires that a licensed engineer stamp all documents.



Here is the reference:



http://www.pseconline.org/Registration/



And that is pretty typical of most states.

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

He's not open minded enough to learn the required course work to pass.
I have current PE licenses in four states, have a great engineering
job, and he calls ME dumb!!

Asslicker you are caught in yet another lie.

You have previously stated you were licensed in 27 states.
You are a lying sack of ****.

http://tinyurl.com/jool

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"Jamce1" wrote in message
...
hell, i
would let NYOB work on my teeth if he turned out to be competent, and
there was
no breathing alternative.

Thanks, chris. I might even be inclined to work on *your* teeth if I had no
alternative as well. Of course, healthcare providers can't refuse treating
patients based on race, sex, religion, color, national origin, age or
disability. I'm not sure how the courts would handle refusing treatment
based on political affiliation, however. There *is* a case where a dentist
lost his license (in one of the New England states) for refusing to see a
homosexual patient. The State licensure board revoked his license for
"unprofessional" behavior...behavior that had more to do with the *way* he
dealt with the patient...not as much for just refusing treatment. They seem
to have intentionally left the ruling rather ambiguous.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

That would be "its engineering students," dummy, not "their engineer"
students. even "her engineering students" would be appropriate.

Don't you capitalize the first word of a new sentence?

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

Harry,
Why don't you list the names of the schools you attended? You've bashed me
in the past about not posting my real name, but I've provided every other
factual detail people have asked me for. What's the big deal in posting the
name of a University?



"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bill Cole wrote:
ROFLMAO, If that is the best you can do, I guess your school really did
have such low standards they did not believe they should not expect
engineering students to have a basic command of the English Language.

You don't read very well, do you. I never said the school had no
expectations of engineering students, I said the students made the
statement about themselves, *as a joke on them.*



I
guess that must be part of the reason for your inferiority complex, you
view
education as important, but you did not have the grades or intelligence
to
be admitted to a school with high standards.

Really? I have B.A. degree from a fairly large university in the Midwest
and an M.A. degree from an Ivy League university in New England.



Has your alma mater admissions standards increased it's standards since
you
graduated?

That would be "its" standards, yahoo, not "it's" standards. "It's" is
the contraction for it is. "Its" is the possessive.


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"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Rural Knight" wrote in message
hlink.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Joe" wrote in message
...
And I like to do Crown Moulding and upgrades to homes and
condos.
Bill


Practicing coping without a P.E license?

Wait till asskisser hears about this!

Idiot reply. I said you can't legally practice engineering without a
license. Prove me wrong.

OFTEN ASKED QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS COVERING ENGINEERING PRACTICE
Q. Do I need a license to practice engineering is a corporation such as
Boeing?

A. No. There is an Industrial Exemption that allows engineers to work
without a license with the assumption that the Corporation has a
licensed
engineer responsible for all engineering done in the name of the firm.

Q. Can I legally do engineering work without a license in a firm that
does
not have a licensed engineer?

A. Yes. But, your work will not be accepted by any government agency
that
requires that a licensed engineer stamp all documents.

Here is the reference:

http://www.pseconline.org/Registration/

And that is pretty typical of most states.

You can NOT call yourself an engineer, have "engineer" in the name of
your company, etc. unless you are licensed to practice engineering in
that particular state, and like you've said, most states are typical.

Ok, so here is a question for you.

Let's say I have an engineering degree (M.E), Masters - Applied
Materials Science and a PhD in Mathematics - I cannot be an
engineer unless I pass some sort of license and/or professional
practicum governed by either the state or peer review?

Or let's take this case - I graduate from MIT as a ME, I am hired
as an ME, I work as for the company as an ME and I cannot
call myself an ME unless the state or professional organization
recognizes me as such?

The key to your example, is that the FIRM needs to have a licensed
engineer on staff. The rest, are designers. If you take the whole
picture into context, it changes. If you take just the parts that
you've snipped, then there would never be a need for anybody to be a
licensed professional engineer.

I recognize the need for professional engineers - my argument is
with the term engineer. One cannot be something unless one is
something. My argument is that one can be an engineer even if it
is at a junior or precept level. To wit: If I give a design project to
a junior engineer and I observe, review and approve his resulting
efforts, is that junior engineer not an engineer?

Later,

Tom

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"Bill Cole" wrote in message
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So why do you think you have this inferiority complex?

Harry doesn't have an inferiority complex. If anything, it's a
*superiority* complex...a very common trait of the Narcissist.

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Rural Knight" wrote in message
news:6pLZa.11773
OFTEN ASKED QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS COVERING ENGINEERING PRACTICE
Q. Do I need a license to practice engineering is a corporation such as
Boeing?

A. No. There is an Industrial Exemption that allows engineers to work
without a license with the assumption that the Corporation has a
licensed
engineer responsible for all engineering done in the name of the firm.

Q. Can I legally do engineering work without a license in a firm that
does
not have a licensed engineer?

A. Yes. But, your work will not be accepted by any government agency
that
requires that a licensed engineer stamp all documents.

Here is the reference:

http://www.pseconline.org/Registration/

And that is pretty typical of most states.

You forgot one very important part of the very page that you seem to
have cut and pasted at will to make an arguement:

PRACTICING ENGINEERING IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON AND ALL OTHER STATES
IN THE USA
To advertise and offer to practice engineering in all of the states in
the USA requires having an engineering license. To offer to practice
and then accept engineering jobs is against the law punishable as a
misdemeanor

It was not intentional by any stretch and I'm not arguing against you.
In fact, I thought to include it as it actually did bolster your argument,
but I didn't because I wasn't sure if that is just their rules and regs
or not.

I wonder if you can provide me with the Federal statute that governs
whether one can or can not call themselves "engineers".

I would appreciate that reference.

Later,

Tom

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

Bill Cole wrote:

If he really had a superiority complex, don't you believe it would be below
him to have to tell everyone how great he is? I have always noticed that
those who "name drop" do so because they are insecure, but you might be
right, he might be a Narcissist who has no friends, so he has to come in
here to tell us how superior he is.

"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...

"Bill Cole" wrote in message
news:5MyZa.80150$Oz4.19350@rwcrnsc54...
So why do you think you have this inferiority complex?

Harry doesn't have an inferiority complex. If anything, it's a
*superiority* complex...a very common trait of the Narcissist.





You two ought to get together and breed. You could produce an entire
species of no-neck FLEEGs.



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NOYB wrote:

Harry,
Why don't you list the names of the schools you attended? You've bashed me
in the past about not posting my real name, but I've provided every other
factual detail people have asked me for. What's the big deal in posting the
name of a University?

I have, and more than once.





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