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Harry Krause August 11th 03 11:44 PM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 
NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

That would be "its engineering students," dummy, not "their engineer"
students. even "her engineering students" would be appropriate.


Don't you capitalize the first word of a new sentence?





sometimes. Sometimes not.



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NOYB August 12th 03 12:31 AM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bill Cole wrote:

If he really had a superiority complex, don't you believe it would be

below
him to have to tell everyone how great he is? I have always noticed

that
those who "name drop" do so because they are insecure, but you might be
right, he might be a Narcissist who has no friends, so he has to come in
here to tell us how superior he is.

"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...

"Bill Cole" wrote in message
news:5MyZa.80150$Oz4.19350@rwcrnsc54...
So why do you think you have this inferiority complex?

Harry doesn't have an inferiority complex. If anything, it's a
*superiority* complex...a very common trait of the Narcissist.





You two ought to get together and breed. You could produce an entire
species of no-neck FLEEGs.



Hehehe. Must have struck a nerve...




NOYB August 12th 03 12:32 AM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 
Why not again?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

Harry,
Why don't you list the names of the schools you attended? You've bashed

me
in the past about not posting my real name, but I've provided every

other
factual detail people have asked me for. What's the big deal in posting

the
name of a University?


I have, and more than once.





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NOYB August 12th 03 12:33 AM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 
why? are you ee cummings?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

That would be "its engineering students," dummy, not "their engineer"
students. even "her engineering students" would be appropriate.


Don't you capitalize the first word of a new sentence?





sometimes. Sometimes not.



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Harry Krause August 12th 03 12:50 AM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 
NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bill Cole wrote:

If he really had a superiority complex, don't you believe it would be

below
him to have to tell everyone how great he is? I have always noticed

that
those who "name drop" do so because they are insecure, but you might be
right, he might be a Narcissist who has no friends, so he has to come in
here to tell us how superior he is.

"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...

"Bill Cole" wrote in message
news:5MyZa.80150$Oz4.19350@rwcrnsc54...
So why do you think you have this inferiority complex?

Harry doesn't have an inferiority complex. If anything, it's a
*superiority* complex...a very common trait of the Narcissist.





You two ought to get together and breed. You could produce an entire
species of no-neck FLEEGs.



Hehehe. Must have struck a nerve...





What's funny is how sure of yourselves you righties pretend to be.

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Harry Krause August 12th 03 12:50 AM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 
NOYB wrote:

Why not again?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

Harry,
Why don't you list the names of the schools you attended? You've bashed

me
in the past about not posting my real name, but I've provided every

other
factual detail people have asked me for. What's the big deal in posting

the
name of a University?


I have, and more than once.




Why?


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Calif Bill August 12th 03 02:18 AM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 
Where is the 27 states you were licensed in? As to getting a PE. Why? I
am 60 years old. Have enough money I do not have to work if I do not want
to. I like doing remodel and construction jobs. Pays better than your job.
I have an EIT. Passed it on the first try.
Bill

"basskisser" wrote in message
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(Jamce1) wrote in message

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Subject: OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
From: "Calif Bill"

Date: 8/9/03 10:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:

If you are going to clip, at least leave the attributes to the correct
person. Harry is full of crap, but my reply was not to him. I was

replying
to the one who said I was full of ****. My school had great standards

for
Engineering students. Now the liberal arts side was a lot of flaky.
Protest the president of the School, Dr. Hyakawa for requiring proper

speech
and manners. And I only attack a few dummy's. And Asskisser is a

super
dummy! And to insecurity, I was and still am a GREAT ENGINEER.
Semi-retired, looking at starting a new career of General Contractor.

And I
would never accept a PE as dumb as Asskisser for any of my jobs that
required a PE signoff. Too much liability.
bill


why dont you just take the test yourself?

chris


He's not open minded enough to learn the required course work to pass.
I have current PE licenses in four states, have a great engineering
job, and he calls ME dumb!!




Calif Bill August 12th 03 02:20 AM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 
He probably did go to a big name university. Probably did not come out xxx
cum laude. Heck, Al Gore went to BIG name U. Flunked out.
Bill

"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...
Harry,
Why don't you list the names of the schools you attended? You've bashed

me
in the past about not posting my real name, but I've provided every other
factual detail people have asked me for. What's the big deal in posting

the
name of a University?



"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bill Cole wrote:
ROFLMAO, If that is the best you can do, I guess your school really

did
have such low standards they did not believe they should not expect
engineering students to have a basic command of the English Language.


You don't read very well, do you. I never said the school had no
expectations of engineering students, I said the students made the
statement about themselves, *as a joke on them.*



I
guess that must be part of the reason for your inferiority complex,

you
view
education as important, but you did not have the grades or

intelligence
to
be admitted to a school with high standards.


Really? I have B.A. degree from a fairly large university in the Midwest
and an M.A. degree from an Ivy League university in New England.



Has your alma mater admissions standards increased it's standards

since
you
graduated?


That would be "its" standards, yahoo, not "it's" standards. "It's" is
the contraction for it is. "Its" is the possessive.


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Eisboch August 12th 03 02:34 AM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 
I don't know who started this thread, or who is claiming what, but for
what's it's worth:

Nowhere in my 30 plus years of working in an engineering dominated industry
did I ever hear of a requirement for the average Joe Blow engineer to have a
licence to call himself/herself an engineer.
The only requirement for an engineering licence was to be certified as a
"Professional Engineer" or "PE", the qualifications of which allowed the PE
to "stamp" or approve drawings or designs within his/her licenced
engineering disipline, if required by local codes. The requirements for a
"PE" stamp for an engineering project are in the minority of most routine
engineering tasks.

Whoever is claiming that all "engineers" must be licenced to be legitimate
or legal is blowing wind out of his/her rear.

Eisboch





Joe August 12th 03 03:12 AM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

Boy are you going over the edge.


I'm going over the edge? Seems that you, JoeTechnician, are the one
who has GONE over! You don't know whether or not you need a license in
Florida. You don't know whether you HAVE a license in Florida, you
don't know whether or not you need a license in Georgia, you don't
know whether or not you HAVE a license in Georgia, you don't know
whether or not you have reciprocity in Georgia.


Once again, Dummy-
http://tinyurl.com/jpwb

Why don't you explain how you were licensed in 27 states last year and now
your licensed in only 4.
Did you fail the drug screening process?
Did 23 of states recently enact mental health requirements?









Calif Bill August 12th 03 04:41 AM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
I don't know who started this thread, or who is claiming what, but for
what's it's worth:

Nowhere in my 30 plus years of working in an engineering dominated

industry
did I ever hear of a requirement for the average Joe Blow engineer to have

a
licence to call himself/herself an engineer.
The only requirement for an engineering licence was to be certified as a
"Professional Engineer" or "PE", the qualifications of which allowed the

PE
to "stamp" or approve drawings or designs within his/her licenced
engineering disipline, if required by local codes. The requirements for a
"PE" stamp for an engineering project are in the minority of most routine
engineering tasks.

Whoever is claiming that all "engineers" must be licenced to be legitimate
or legal is blowing wind out of his/her rear.

Eisboch



Is / was Basskisser, also known as JimDummy



NOYB August 12th 03 04:44 AM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 
aka--Kevincad


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
I don't know who started this thread, or who is claiming what, but for
what's it's worth:

Nowhere in my 30 plus years of working in an engineering dominated

industry
did I ever hear of a requirement for the average Joe Blow engineer to

have
a
licence to call himself/herself an engineer.
The only requirement for an engineering licence was to be certified as a
"Professional Engineer" or "PE", the qualifications of which allowed the

PE
to "stamp" or approve drawings or designs within his/her licenced
engineering disipline, if required by local codes. The requirements for

a
"PE" stamp for an engineering project are in the minority of most

routine
engineering tasks.

Whoever is claiming that all "engineers" must be licenced to be

legitimate
or legal is blowing wind out of his/her rear.

Eisboch



Is / was Basskisser, also known as JimDummy






Joe August 12th 03 05:47 AM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
om...
aka--Kevincad


aka-- OnLanier

aka-- Kevin Noble

I'm sure there's a few more.



basskisser August 12th 03 02:38 PM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 
"Joe" wrote in message ...
"NOYB" wrote in message
om...
aka--Kevincad


aka-- OnLanier

aka-- Kevin Noble

I'm sure there's a few more.


Do you have a point you're trying to make, JoeTechnician?

basskisser August 12th 03 02:44 PM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 
"Calif Bill" wrote in message ...
Where is the 27 states you were licensed in? As to getting a PE. Why? I
am 60 years old. Have enough money I do not have to work if I do not want
to. I like doing remodel and construction jobs. Pays better than your job.
I have an EIT. Passed it on the first try.
Bill

That explains a lot. Dried up, washed out.
Yeah, sure, okay, Bill. Please provide proof that your labor job pays
more than I make. First, post how you know how much I make. Then, post
how much YOU make.

basskisser August 12th 03 02:46 PM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 
"Rural Knight" wrote in message link.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Rural Knight" wrote in message

news:6pLZa.11773
OFTEN ASKED QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS COVERING ENGINEERING PRACTICE
Q. Do I need a license to practice engineering is a corporation such as
Boeing?

A. No. There is an Industrial Exemption that allows engineers to work
without a license with the assumption that the Corporation has a

licensed
engineer responsible for all engineering done in the name of the firm.

Q. Can I legally do engineering work without a license in a firm that

does
not have a licensed engineer?

A. Yes. But, your work will not be accepted by any government agency

that
requires that a licensed engineer stamp all documents.

Here is the reference:

http://www.pseconline.org/Registration/

And that is pretty typical of most states.


You forgot one very important part of the very page that you seem to
have cut and pasted at will to make an arguement:

PRACTICING ENGINEERING IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON AND ALL OTHER STATES
IN THE USA
To advertise and offer to practice engineering in all of the states in
the USA requires having an engineering license. To offer to practice
and then accept engineering jobs is against the law punishable as a
misdemeanor


It was not intentional by any stretch and I'm not arguing against you.
In fact, I thought to include it as it actually did bolster your argument,
but I didn't because I wasn't sure if that is just their rules and regs
or not.

I wonder if you can provide me with the Federal statute that governs
whether one can or can not call themselves "engineers".

I would appreciate that reference.

Later,

Tom


Tom, they are state statutes. I've given several here, if you'd like,
I'll post more.

basskisser August 12th 03 02:56 PM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 
"Calif Bill" wrote in message ...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message

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And you would be the one full of ****. You can be an engineer in most
states without registration. As a communications engineer, there is no
registration required in most states. Just can not call yourself
"Registered Engineer" "Professional Engineer" "Consulting Engineer".
"Software Engineer" is OK, "Electronics Engineer" is OK, etc. Seeing
asskissers response to burning no oil in normal operation, I would not

use
him or his employer in any capacity for any civil engineering needs.

Odd
that my Diploma says "Bachelors of Science in Engineering". Never been

in
an engineering job in the computer world that required I get the PE.
Bill


Bill, name calling is SO school girlish. It really does nothing to try
to bolster your point.

The company that I contract for does only heavy industrial structural
engineering, therefore you can't hire us. You know nothing of my
engineering capabilities, and never will. Therefore, it is simply
stupid to pretend that you do. Now, you are again WRONG. In MOST
STATES, you can NOT use the word "engineer" in your name, your
company's name, or any advertisement, UNLESS you are a licensed
engineer. Period. Need more proof? I've already posted Georgia's.


I do not give a rat's ass for Georgia's regs! In Calif, just can not call
yourself a "Registered, Professional, or Consulting Engineer". If you were
not so stupid, you would learn that fact.
Bill


So, you contend that, because in MOST states, you can not call
yourself an engineer, but in CA you CAN, that I'M the one that's
somehow "stupid"?? Haahaaahaa~~~~

NOYB August 12th 03 03:00 PM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 
Just curious. Some of the Ivy league schools are quite liberal...and some
are quite conservative. If you went to Dartmouth, you were likely very
lonely. If you went to Brown or Princeton, you probably fit right in. If
you went to Yale, you are bitter for not being selected into the order of
Skull and Bones.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

Why not again?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

Harry,
Why don't you list the names of the schools you attended? You've

bashed
me
in the past about not posting my real name, but I've provided every

other
factual detail people have asked me for. What's the big deal in

posting
the
name of a University?

I have, and more than once.




Why?


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NOYB August 12th 03 03:02 PM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bill Cole wrote:

If he really had a superiority complex, don't you believe it would be

below
him to have to tell everyone how great he is? I have always noticed

that
those who "name drop" do so because they are insecure, but you might

be
right, he might be a Narcissist who has no friends, so he has to come

in
here to tell us how superior he is.

"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...

"Bill Cole" wrote in message
news:5MyZa.80150$Oz4.19350@rwcrnsc54...
So why do you think you have this inferiority complex?

Harry doesn't have an inferiority complex. If anything, it's a
*superiority* complex...a very common trait of the Narcissist.





You two ought to get together and breed. You could produce an entire
species of no-neck FLEEGs.



Hehehe. Must have struck a nerve...





What's funny is how sure of yourselves you righties pretend to be.



I know it's confusing to liberals. They tend to waffle on issues, and are
very uncertain in their convictions...quite the opposite of conservatives.

Don't you remember? We're closed-minded...and very "sure of ourselves".





Joe August 12th 03 03:18 PM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Joe" wrote in message

...
Boy are you going over the edge.

I'm going over the edge? Seems that you, JoeTechnician, are the one
who has GONE over! You don't know whether or not you need a license in
Florida. You don't know whether you HAVE a license in Florida, you
don't know whether or not you need a license in Georgia, you don't
know whether or not you HAVE a license in Georgia, you don't know
whether or not you have reciprocity in Georgia.


Once again, Dummy-
http://tinyurl.com/jpwb

Why don't you explain how you were licensed in 27 states last year and

now
your licensed in only 4.
Did you fail the drug screening process?
Did 23 of states recently enact mental health requirements?


The company I WORKED FOR....big difference.


Your so full of ****. If *you* don't personally hold the license in each
state, *you* are not licensed in each state.
Big difference between stating that "I'm now licensed in 27 states" and the
"company I worked for" is licensed in 27 states.

http://tinyurl.com/jrla

Now, again, if you DON'T need to be licensed.....what IS the
reciprocity, that you say you have in GA for?


Very simple Assslicker, It is a contractors license for when I contract
directly to the public.



Calif Bill August 12th 03 05:44 PM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message

news:bh9nol$pf7
Is / was Basskisser, also known as JimDummy


Name calling is SO school girlish


So? Why do you do it?



Calif Bill August 12th 03 05:54 PM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message

...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message

...
And you would be the one full of ****. You can be an engineer in

most
states without registration. As a communications engineer, there is

no
registration required in most states. Just can not call yourself
"Registered Engineer" "Professional Engineer" "Consulting Engineer".
"Software Engineer" is OK, "Electronics Engineer" is OK, etc.

Seeing
asskissers response to burning no oil in normal operation, I would

not
use
him or his employer in any capacity for any civil engineering needs.

Odd
that my Diploma says "Bachelors of Science in Engineering". Never

been
in
an engineering job in the computer world that required I get the PE.
Bill

Bill, name calling is SO school girlish. It really does nothing to try
to bolster your point.

The company that I contract for does only heavy industrial structural
engineering, therefore you can't hire us. You know nothing of my
engineering capabilities, and never will. Therefore, it is simply
stupid to pretend that you do. Now, you are again WRONG. In MOST
STATES, you can NOT use the word "engineer" in your name, your
company's name, or any advertisement, UNLESS you are a licensed
engineer. Period. Need more proof? I've already posted Georgia's.


I do not give a rat's ass for Georgia's regs! In Calif, just can not

call
yourself a "Registered, Professional, or Consulting Engineer". If you

were
not so stupid, you would learn that fact.
Bill


So, you contend that, because in MOST states, you can not call
yourself an engineer, but in CA you CAN, that I'M the one that's
somehow "stupid"?? Haahaaahaa~~~~


No, you still can not comprehend! You can call yourself an engineer in any
state. Just not a P.E. or R.E. or a Consulting E. How may people have been
arrested or fined for calling themselves "Sanitation Engineer"? You can not
sign off a design for a public project. And Communication Engineers are
exempt by law from the titling requirments.



Calif Bill August 12th 03 05:56 PM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message

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I am 60. And basskisser is stupid is why I would not use him as a PE.

I
have liberal friends. My former fishing partner is both black and

liberal.
No PE's supervised my work. I worked for more startups than big

operations.
Just never picked the big winner. Timing was wrong. Turned down a job

with
Rolm Corp at 11:30 am one day in 1980 as I had accepted a job at another
company at 10 am. Figure that little miss timing cost me a $100 million

at
least. Synoptics, Cisco, etc are all offshoots.
Bill


Yeah, sure, go do some labor work.


And I made a lot of money for my labors. Even a patent! You got Patent(s)?



Calif Bill August 12th 03 05:59 PM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 
Ooh. Now I remember. BassKisser is the cad entry grunt.

"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...
aka--Atlantacad



"Joe" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
om...
aka--Kevincad


aka-- OnLanier

aka-- Kevin Noble

I'm sure there's a few more.






Bill Cole August 12th 03 06:11 PM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 
Are you Kevin Noble from Snellville? Damn it is a small world.

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Joe" wrote in message

...
"NOYB" wrote in message
om...
aka--Kevincad


aka-- OnLanier

aka-- Kevin Noble

I'm sure there's a few more.


Do you have a point you're trying to make, JoeTechnician?




Joe August 12th 03 06:31 PM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

"Bill Cole" wrote in message
news:Rc9_a.127723$o%2.55326@sccrnsc02...
Are you Kevin Noble from Snellville? Damn it is a small world.


Do you actually know this joker?



Joe August 12th 03 06:39 PM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

"Bill Cole" wrote in message
news:Bf9_a.129070$YN5.86992@sccrnsc01...
Didn't you say "I'm now licensed in 27 states"


Yes, he did, when confronted he said "my company was".

If you are not personally licensed in the state, you are NOT a P.E. in that
state.
If he called himself a P.E. in any of those states he would be breaking the
law.



Bill Cole August 12th 03 08:33 PM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 
Didn't you say you were licensed in 27 states?


"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Joe" wrote in message

...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Joe" wrote in message

...
Boy are you going over the edge.

I'm going over the edge? Seems that you, JoeTechnician, are the

one
who has GONE over! You don't know whether or not you need a

license in
Florida. You don't know whether you HAVE a license in Florida, you
don't know whether or not you need a license in Georgia, you don't
know whether or not you HAVE a license in Georgia, you don't know
whether or not you have reciprocity in Georgia.

Once again, Dummy-
http://tinyurl.com/jpwb

Why don't you explain how you were licensed in 27 states last year

and
now
your licensed in only 4.
Did you fail the drug screening process?
Did 23 of states recently enact mental health requirements?

The company I WORKED FOR....big difference.


Your so full of ****. If *you* don't personally hold the license in each
state, *you* are not licensed in each state.
Big difference between stating that "I'm now licensed in 27 states" and

the
"company I worked for" is licensed in 27 states.

http://tinyurl.com/jrla

Now, again, if you DON'T need to be licensed.....what IS the
reciprocity, that you say you have in GA for?


Very simple Assslicker, It is a contractors license for when I contract
directly to the public.


Name calling is so school girlish.

BWAAAAHAAAA!!!! Did you, or did you not say, that you were NOT
licensed in GA, because you didn't have to be?
Then, did you not turn around and say that, yes you were licensed as
an engineer in GA?
Then, did you not turn around and say that you were licensed in GA
through reciprocity?

There is NO reciprocity for a contractor's license in GA.
Also, a contractor's license is a LONG way from a license to practice
engineering.
Anybody with any type of trade, from leaf picker, to lawn service can
get a contractor's license.




Jim August 12th 03 08:37 PM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 
You do more than your share of name calling and making generalizations. You are mean
spirited in every one of your posts.

But I do have to admit I got a kick out of one of your recent insults (in this thread)
when you said:

"Your're (sic) stupid."

Classic.



"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Joe" wrote in message

...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Joe" wrote in message

...
Boy are you going over the edge.

I'm going over the edge? Seems that you, JoeTechnician, are the one
who has GONE over! You don't know whether or not you need a license in
Florida. You don't know whether you HAVE a license in Florida, you
don't know whether or not you need a license in Georgia, you don't
know whether or not you HAVE a license in Georgia, you don't know
whether or not you have reciprocity in Georgia.

Once again, Dummy-
http://tinyurl.com/jpwb

Why don't you explain how you were licensed in 27 states last year and

now
your licensed in only 4.
Did you fail the drug screening process?
Did 23 of states recently enact mental health requirements?

The company I WORKED FOR....big difference.


Your so full of ****. If *you* don't personally hold the license in each
state, *you* are not licensed in each state.
Big difference between stating that "I'm now licensed in 27 states" and the
"company I worked for" is licensed in 27 states.

http://tinyurl.com/jrla

Now, again, if you DON'T need to be licensed.....what IS the
reciprocity, that you say you have in GA for?


Very simple Assslicker, It is a contractors license for when I contract
directly to the public.


Name calling is so school girlish.

BWAAAAHAAAA!!!! Did you, or did you not say, that you were NOT
licensed in GA, because you didn't have to be?
Then, did you not turn around and say that, yes you were licensed as
an engineer in GA?
Then, did you not turn around and say that you were licensed in GA
through reciprocity?

There is NO reciprocity for a contractor's license in GA.
Also, a contractor's license is a LONG way from a license to practice
engineering.
Anybody with any type of trade, from leaf picker, to lawn service can
get a contractor's license.



Joe August 12th 03 09:22 PM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

Why don't you explain how you were licensed in 27 states last year

and
now
your licensed in only 4.
Did you fail the drug screening process?
Did 23 of states recently enact mental health requirements?

The company I WORKED FOR....big difference.


Your so full of ****. If *you* don't personally hold the license in each
state, *you* are not licensed in each state.
Big difference between stating that "I'm now licensed in 27 states" and

the
"company I worked for" is licensed in 27 states.

http://tinyurl.com/jrla

Now, again, if you DON'T need to be licensed.....what IS the
reciprocity, that you say you have in GA for?


Very simple Assslicker, It is a contractors license for when I contract
directly to the public.


Name calling is so school girlish.

BWAAAAHAAAA!!!! Did you, or did you not say, that you were NOT
licensed in GA, because you didn't have to be?


That's right, *IF* I am contracting on my own, my Florida Limited Energy
License is accepted by GA.

Then, did you not turn around and say that, yes you were licensed as
an engineer in GA?


No, NEVER did I say I was a Licensed Engineer in GA or Fl

Then, did you not turn around and say that you were licensed in GA
through reciprocity?


Again, Limited Energy License.


There is NO reciprocity for a contractor's license in GA.


As usual, you are wrong.
From Florida Department of Business Regulation-

2. Q. Does Florida endorse with other states?
A. Yes. Florida has endorsement agreements with Georgia and North Carolina.

The following is an endorsement matrix listing the license categories:
Florida Unlimited (EC) = North Carolina Unlimited
Florida Unlimited (EC) = Georgia Class II plus LV-U
Florida Alarm I (EF) = Georgia LV- U
Florida Alarm II (EG) = Georgia LV-A
Florida Residential Specialty (ES) = Georgia Class I
Florida (Low Voltage) Limited Energy (ES) = Georgia LV-T or LV-G

http://tinyurl.com/jt3y

Also, a contractor's license is a LONG way from a license to practice
engineering.


Again, since I don't need it, I don't have it.
When I *do* Engineer systems my plans are incorporated into the Division 16
plans and stamped by a P.E.

Anybody with any type of trade, from leaf picker, to lawn service can
get a contractor's license.


And obviously any idiot can get a P.E license.
That's if you really have one.



Joe August 12th 03 09:31 PM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 
Boy are you going over the edge.

I'm going over the edge? Seems that you, JoeTechnician, are the

one
who has GONE over! You don't know whether or not you need a

license in
Florida. You don't know whether you HAVE a license in Florida, you
don't know whether or not you need a license in Georgia, you don't
know whether or not you HAVE a license in Georgia, you don't know
whether or not you have reciprocity in Georgia.

Once again, Dummy-
http://tinyurl.com/jpwb

Why don't you explain how you were licensed in 27 states last year

and
now
your licensed in only 4.
Did you fail the drug screening process?
Did 23 of states recently enact mental health requirements?

The company I WORKED FOR....big difference.


Your so full of ****. If *you* don't personally hold the license in each
state, *you* are not licensed in each state.
Big difference between stating that "I'm now licensed in 27 states" and

the
"company I worked for" is licensed in 27 states.

http://tinyurl.com/jrla


So, are you going to ignore everything you can't respond to?

When you said that "I'm now licensed in 27 states" you broke the law in (at
least) 23 states.
Probably the other 4 also.

You can not say your a Licensed Engineer in 27 states if you are not
personally licensed in each state.







Jamce1 August 12th 03 09:49 PM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 
why dont you tell us who you work for, and what state your license is in?

chris

Subject: OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
From: (basskisser)
Date: 8/11/03 4:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
And you would be the one full of ****. You can be an engineer in most
states without registration. As a communications engineer, there is no
registration required in most states. Just can not call yourself
"Registered Engineer" "Professional Engineer" "Consulting Engineer".
"Software Engineer" is OK, "Electronics Engineer" is OK, etc. Seeing
asskissers response to burning no oil in normal operation, I would not use
him or his employer in any capacity for any civil engineering needs. Odd
that my Diploma says "Bachelors of Science in Engineering". Never been in
an engineering job in the computer world that required I get the PE.
Bill


Bill, name calling is SO school girlish. It really does nothing to try
to bolster your point.

The company that I contract for does only heavy industrial structural
engineering, therefore you can't hire us. You know nothing of my
engineering capabilities, and never will. Therefore, it is simply
stupid to pretend that you do. Now, you are again WRONG. In MOST
STATES, you can NOT use the word "engineer" in your name, your
company's name, or any advertisement, UNLESS you are a licensed
engineer. Period. Need more proof? I've already posted Georgia's.









Jamce1 August 12th 03 09:52 PM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 
Subject: OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
From: "Bill Cole"
Date: 8/11/03 2:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:

When you see people such as Harry and Basslicker spending so much time
telling you their credentials, it makes you wonder if they are really lying
or just very very insecure. My guess is both.


throw calif bill in that too. dont let your political affiliation blind you of
displays of arrogance.

chris

NOYB August 12th 03 10:58 PM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 
Bingo!

Atlantacad, KevinCad, JimDandy, etc.

All the same guy.


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
Ooh. Now I remember. BassKisser is the cad entry grunt.

"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...
aka--Atlantacad



"Joe" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
om...
aka--Kevincad


aka-- OnLanier

aka-- Kevin Noble

I'm sure there's a few more.









Jim August 12th 03 11:20 PM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

"Bill Cole" wrote in message
news:%C9_a.88822$cF.27123@rwcrnsc53...
yeah, he is a little computer geek, who has trouble getting along with
anyone.


His company let him go because he spent all of his time arguing
with his coworkers.


Sad little man.


I would guess the amount of time he spends in this NG (and possibly others) during
working hours had something to do with it also.

But he just said he has been an independent contractor for the past 5 years. How long
ago was he let go by his former employer? Was it in fact an engineering firm?


Bill Cole August 12th 03 11:28 PM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 
Independent Contractor means he was laid off, don't you know anything. ; )
"Jim" wrote in message
news:JKd_a.129176$o%2.55680@sccrnsc02...

"Bill Cole" wrote in message
news:%C9_a.88822$cF.27123@rwcrnsc53...
yeah, he is a little computer geek, who has trouble getting along with
anyone.


His company let him go because he spent all of his time arguing
with his coworkers.


Sad little man.


I would guess the amount of time he spends in this NG (and possibly

others) during
working hours had something to do with it also.

But he just said he has been an independent contractor for the past 5

years. How long
ago was he let go by his former employer? Was it in fact an engineering

firm?




Rural Knight August 12th 03 11:28 PM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Rural Knight" wrote in message

news:Jh6_a.9562

Yeah - I would in fact. In particular for Connecticut.

Curiosity ya know?

Later,

Tom


Tom, straight from the State of Conn. website, go there for the
complete, very long verbage:


~~ snippage ~~

Yes - that isn't the point of discussion though. I understand the
Professional Engineer qualifications - I understand that part. I've
said so - let me reiterate - I UNDERSTAND THE PROFESSIONAL
ENGINEER QUALIFICATIONS AND THE NEED THEREOF.

Just for the sake of discussion and curiosity (once more):

You stated (complete exchange before I started):

"Joe" wrote in message
...

And I like to do Crown Molding and upgrades to homes and condos.
Bill


Practicing coping without a P.E license?

Wait till asskisser hears about this!


Idiot reply. I said you can't legally practice engineering without a
license. Prove me wrong.

Come on, JoeTechnician."


To which I replied with a reference and site URL that basically
said that yes, you can practice as an engineer, you just can't
call yourself a Professional Engineer (more on which, later).

Subsequently, you stated (in the following post):

------------------------------------------------------------------

"You can NOT call yourself an engineer, have "engineer" in the name of
your company, etc. unless you are licensed to practice engineering in
that particular state, and like you've said, most states are typical.
The key to your example, is that the FIRM needs to have a licensed
engineer on staff. The rest, are designers. If you take the whole
picture into context, it changes. If you take just the parts that
you've snipped, then there would never be a need for anybody to be a
licensed professional engineer."

-------------------------------------------------------------------

Now, this begs an interesting question. Other than the Professional
License process, nowhere in the licensure process in the State
of Connecticut does "Engineering License" appear with two exceptions:
Architect and Professional Engineer. Does not say you have to have
a license to call yourself an Engineer of any discipline, run a business
as an Engineer of any discipline, be an Engineer of any discipline or
practice as an Engineering Consultant of any discipline. Thus, one
can BE an engineer, can call oneself an engineer, act as an engineer,
run an engineering business - in short, do everything except be a
Professional Engineer which has a separate set of qualifications.
(And before you go there, yes, I recognize that you need to have
a license to run a business, but that is for tax purposes, referral
and other business type stuff not what you can call the business
or yourself.)

Reference: http://www.ct-clic.com/alpha.asp?g=1

As I asked in another post to which you have yet to respond:

Let's say I have an engineering degree (M.E), Masters - Applied
Materials Science and a PhD in Mathematics - I cannot be an
engineer unless I pass some sort of license and/or professional
practicum governed by either the state or peer review?

Or let's take this case - I graduate from MIT as a ME, I am hired
as an ME, I work for the company as an ME and I cannot
call myself an ME unless the state or professional organization
recognizes me as such?

Once again just so we can keep the discussion on track:

I recognize the need for professional engineers - my argument is
with the term engineer. One cannot be something unless one is
something. My argument is that one can be an engineer even if it
is at a junior or precept level. To wit: If I give a design project to
a junior engineer and I observe, review and approve his resulting
efforts, is that junior engineer not an engineer?

Later,

Tom



Rural Knight August 12th 03 11:30 PM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 

"Joe" wrote in message
...
Boy are you going over the edge.

I'm going over the edge? Seems that you, JoeTechnician, are the

one
who has GONE over! You don't know whether or not you need a

license in
Florida. You don't know whether you HAVE a license in Florida,

you
don't know whether or not you need a license in Georgia, you

don't
know whether or not you HAVE a license in Georgia, you don't

know
whether or not you have reciprocity in Georgia.

Once again, Dummy-
http://tinyurl.com/jpwb

Why don't you explain how you were licensed in 27 states last year

and
now
your licensed in only 4.
Did you fail the drug screening process?
Did 23 of states recently enact mental health requirements?

The company I WORKED FOR....big difference.

Your so full of ****. If *you* don't personally hold the license in

each
state, *you* are not licensed in each state.
Big difference between stating that "I'm now licensed in 27 states"

and
the
"company I worked for" is licensed in 27 states.

http://tinyurl.com/jrla


So, are you going to ignore everything you can't respond to?

When you said that "I'm now licensed in 27 states" you broke the law in

(at
least) 23 states.
Probably the other 4 also.

You can not say your a Licensed Engineer in 27 states if you are not
personally licensed in each state.


That would be in those states which actually have a license procedure
for being an engineer - which are few.

Later,

Tom



Harry Krause August 12th 03 11:44 PM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 
NOYB wrote:
Just curious. Some of the Ivy league schools are quite liberal...and some
are quite conservative. If you went to Dartmouth, you were likely very
lonely. If you went to Brown or Princeton, you probably fit right in. If
you went to Yale, you are bitter for not being selected into the order of
Skull and Bones.



Absurd. The Ivy schools are hotbeds of intellectual and philsophical
diversity.

By the time Dubya was at Yale, Skull was mostly nothing more than a
booze club.

The 'Poofs and the Yale Russian Chorus guys got all the good-looking babes.



--
* * *
email sent to will *never* get to me.


Joe August 13th 03 12:12 AM

OT JoeTechnician licensed engineer or not?
 


You can not say your a Licensed Engineer in 27 states if you are not
personally licensed in each state.


That would be in those states which actually have a license procedure
for being an engineer - which are few.

Later,

Tom


As far as I know, every state has a requirement that you have your P.E. to
be able to call yourself a "licensed engineer", "professional engineer"
"consulting engineer", or offer engineering services to the public.




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