This was an interesting thread. I though the Andrea Gail, like her sister
ship, the Lady Grace were both powered by a single 12v71 detroit diesel.
This makes sense to me as the picture I did find of Lady Grace's engine room
showed a green engine block (although I would swear looks like a 6-71 not a
12v71 as stated).. I had a friend in high school whose father was a
shrimper and had a 72ft "boat" made around the same time at the same yard.
It also had a single 12v-71 so I think this was the engine of choice at that
yard. But I found a site that had pictures of the Andrea Gail taken by an
insurance inspector in 1990 showing a nice image of the main engine, which
was a Caterpillar. I guess she had been repowered at some point. All links
are listed below.





about the Lady Grace: http://perfectstorm.warnerbros.com/cmp/dispatch1.html



images of the Lady Grace:
http://www.andreagail.com/The_Andrea...drea_gail.html



insurance images of the Andrea Gail:
http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-m/moa/fvagphotos.htm

On 09 Jul 2004 01:04:36 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

For sure it did, for the author specificly mentioned the crew of the ill-fated
vessel was so anxious about the trip that they went to the boat the night
before leaving to clean the plugs on the engine.

One sentence, just one sentence, but it clearly shows the Andrea Gail had a
gasoline engine. At least in the First Edition (for those out there who know
what a First Edition is, the rest of you can go fry an egg).

Jox, please tell us all why you claim:

1) it's absolutely impossible to clean a diesel engine's injectors.


2) it's absolutely impossible to clean a diesel engine's glow plugs.

3) it's absolutely impossible to clean a diesel engine's electrical
connections.

We're awaiting your answers to these questions about claims you've made.

Thank you,

Steve

schlackoff, you are too stupid for words, but let me walk you through this.

Jox, please tell us all why you claim:

1) it's absolutely impossible to clean a diesel engine's injectors.

by a drunken, nervous, anxious crew the night before sailing?

because the capt would not let anyone do something so foolish, and because
cleaning fuel injectors is major work requiring special tools, and because
bending any of the fuel lines going to any injector requires replacing the fuel
line with new.

2) it's absolutely impossible to clean a diesel engine's glow plugs.

how are you going to clean them? Take them out and wipe them on your jeans?
To what purpose?

3) it's absolutely impossible to clean a diesel engine's electrical
connections.


electrical connentions on a seagoing vessel are not plugs.

We're awaiting your answers to these questions

no, "we" were not. "you" were awaiting in hopes of filling yet another major
gap in your undersanding of the universe.

There you have it. Joxie claims it's impossible to clean a diesel
engine's injectors. Joxie claims it's impossible to clean glow plugs.
Joxie claims it's impossible to clean electrical connections.

Joxie, you are too stupid for words.

Steve


On 13 Jul 2004 00:47:34 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

schlackoff, you are too stupid for words, but let me walk you through this.

Jox, please tell us all why you claim:

1) it's absolutely impossible to clean a diesel engine's injectors.

by a drunken, nervous, anxious crew the night before sailing?

because the capt would not let anyone do something so foolish, and because
cleaning fuel injectors is major work requiring special tools, and because
bending any of the fuel lines going to any injector requires replacing the fuel
line with new.

2) it's absolutely impossible to clean a diesel engine's glow plugs.

how are you going to clean them? Take them out and wipe them on your jeans?
To what purpose?

3) it's absolutely impossible to clean a diesel engine's electrical
connections.


electrical connentions on a seagoing vessel are not plugs.

We're awaiting your answers to these questions

no, "we" were not. "you" were awaiting in hopes of filling yet another major
gap in your undersanding of the universe.

schlackoff, you are saying that a nervouse drunken fishing boat crew would --
could? -- clean the fuel injectors the night before sailing?

why would you say anything like that? have you no idea what is involved in
cleaning fuel injectors? Also, do you think injectors are cleaned just for the
hell of it?

schlackoff, wanna tell us why glow plugs might be cleaned by drunken fishing
boat crew the night before sailing?

schlackoff, wanna tell us which electrical connections on a diesel engine are
referred to as "plugs", and also why such might be cleaned the night before
sailing by drunken fishing boat crew?

There you have it. Joxie claims it's impossible to clean a diesel
engine's injectors. Joxie claims it's impossible to clean glow plugs.
Joxie claims it's impossible to clean electrical connections.

There you have it. Joxie claims it's impossible to clean a diesel
engine's injectors. Joxie claims it's impossible to clean glow plugs.
Joxie claims it's impossible to clean electrical connections.

Joxie, you are too stupid for words.

Steve

On 13 Jul 2004 12:28:29 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

schlackoff, you are saying that a nervouse drunken fishing boat crew would --
could? -- clean the fuel injectors the night before sailing?

why would you say anything like that? have you no idea what is involved in
cleaning fuel injectors? Also, do you think injectors are cleaned just for the
hell of it?

schlackoff, wanna tell us why glow plugs might be cleaned by drunken fishing
boat crew the night before sailing?

schlackoff, wanna tell us which electrical connections on a diesel engine are
referred to as "plugs", and also why such might be cleaned the night before
sailing by drunken fishing boat crew?

(JAXAshby) wrote in message ...
schlackoff, you are saying that a nervouse drunken fishing boat crew would --
could? -- clean the fuel injectors the night before sailing?

why would you say anything like that? have you no idea what is involved in
cleaning fuel injectors? Also, do you think injectors are cleaned just for the
hell of it?

schlackoff, wanna tell us why glow plugs might be cleaned by drunken fishing
boat crew the night before sailing?

By an author, just about any electrical connection could be referred
to as "plugs". Remember, the person stating such was a writer, not an
expert on ship propulsion systems history! Now, why clean these
particular "plugs"? I don't know if you realize this, but in a salt
water environment, metal connections have a tendency to corrode.

(JAXAshby) wrote in message ...
schlackoff, you are too stupid for words, but let me walk you through this.

Jox, please tell us all why you claim:

1) it's absolutely impossible to clean a diesel engine's injectors.

by a drunken, nervous, anxious crew the night before sailing?

because the capt would not let anyone do something so foolish, and because
cleaning fuel injectors is major work requiring special tools, and because
bending any of the fuel lines going to any injector requires replacing the fuel
line with new.

2) it's absolutely impossible to clean a diesel engine's glow plugs.

how are you going to clean them? Take them out and wipe them on your jeans?
To what purpose?

3) it's absolutely impossible to clean a diesel engine's electrical
connections.


electrical connentions on a seagoing vessel are not plugs.

We're awaiting your answers to these questions

no, "we" were not. "you" were awaiting in hopes of filling yet another major
gap in your undersanding of the universe.
]

Wasn't the problem with the ice-maker, that the spark plugs were
fouling-out?
And, didn't the plugs eventually burn up from the fouling? After being
cleaned numerous times?

Wasn't the problem with the ice-maker, that the spark plugs were
fouling-out?
And, didn't the plugs eventually burn up from the fouling? After being
cleaned numerous times?

the "plugs" cited were for the engine. The author was adding "color" and
didn't know that diesel engines don't have plugs. Neither did his editors, at
least for the first edition. I assume the error was corrected in later
editions.