cay lif bill, the irony on the original statement should not have been lost on
you from the get-go, and if perhaps you missed it you STILL should have come up
to speed by the 8th or 10th reiteration. wake up, dude.

Did it specifically state *SPARK plugs*? There are many, many kinds of
"plugs", you know.


In a diesel? that can be cleaned?

Goto http://www.andreagail.com/The_Andrea...drea_gail.html
And look at the motor. Gas?

Jakass, you are the dummy who stated the AG's engine was gas because you
read they cleaned some plugs. Remember, you stated the engine was gas.
YOu did not state the author was wrong. YOU stated the AG's engine was gas!

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
cay lif bill, the irony on the original statement should not have been
lost on
you from the get-go, and if perhaps you missed it you STILL should have
come up
to speed by the 8th or 10th reiteration. wake up, dude.

Did it specifically state *SPARK plugs*? There are many, many kinds of
"plugs", you know.


In a diesel? that can be cleaned?

Goto http://www.andreagail.com/The_Andrea...drea_gail.html
And look at the motor. Gas?

Calif Bill wrote:
"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...

Did it specifically state *SPARK plugs*? There are many, many kinds of
"plugs", you know.


In a diesel? that can be cleaned?


Goto http://www.andreagail.com/The_Andrea...drea_gail.html
And look at the motor. Gas?

Turns out, those pictures are of a sister with a 12-71 (no glow plugs BTW)
It seems the Andrea Gail had a Cat.

otn

I believe that if you do some research, you will find that the Andrea Gail was
powered by a single John Deere diesel engine. It also was equipped with a
gasoline powered ice maker which had been problematic on previous trips.

JAXAshby wrote:

For sure it did, for the author specificly mentioned the crew of the ill-fated
vessel was so anxious about the trip that they went to the boat the night
before leaving to clean the plugs on the engine.

One sentence, just one sentence, but it clearly shows the Andrea Gail had a
gasoline engine. At least in the First Edition (for those out there who know
what a First Edition is, the rest of you can go fry an egg).

jim, the AUTHOR stated the crew cleaned the plugs on the engine the night
before the boat sailed, so ****therefore it has to be true**** doesn't it.

perhaps the irony slipped by you, jim?

I believe that if you do some research, you will find that the Andrea Gail
was
powered by a single John Deere diesel engine. It also was equipped with a
gasoline powered ice maker which had been problematic on previous trips.

JAXAshby wrote:

For sure it did, for the author specificly mentioned the crew of the
ill-fated
vessel was so anxious about the trip that they went to the boat the night
before leaving to clean the plugs on the engine.

One sentence, just one sentence, but it clearly shows the Andrea Gail had a
gasoline engine. At least in the First Edition (for those out there who
know
what a First Edition is, the rest of you can go fry an egg).

On 10 Jul 2004 02:28:24 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

jim, the AUTHOR stated the crew cleaned the plugs on the engine the night
before the boat sailed, so ****therefore it has to be true**** doesn't it.

perhaps the irony slipped by you, jim?

Not only would they "clean the plugs" on a diesel before they take off
on a trip like that, but they'll often do a teardown between such trips.
Maybe replace the liners, pistons, bearings, whatever shows signs of
wear. Notice he didn't say spark plugs. Diesel injectors could also be
called plugs since they, just like spark plugs, *plug* a hole in the
cylinder head. Glow plugs are also called plugs because they also plug
a hole.

Your mistake is assuming that he meant "spark" plugs when he said plugs.
And from there you took it to the height of stupidity by claiming:
"The Andrea Gail had a gasoline engine."

The only irony is that you're able to figure out how to post to a
newsgroup.

Steve

schlackoff, NObody "cleans" fuel injectors on a diesel the night before leaving
on an ocean trip, and NObody cleans the glow plugs either. btw, wanna tell us
just how glow plugs are cleaned by the crew?

also, why in hell do fishing boats "often do a teardown" (your words, see
below) on a engine to do a major overhaul (as you as described, see below)
"between such trips"? (your words, see below)

Your mistake is assuming that he meant "spark" plugs when he said plugs

I made no mistake at all. the author made the mistake, I just noticed it. you
schlackoff, on the other hand, STILL are not sure that maybe the author was
right and the crew cleaned the plugs the night before they left.

he AUTHOR stated the crew cleaned the plugs on the engine the night
before the boat sailed, so ****therefore it has to be true**** doesn't it.

perhaps the irony slipped by you, jim?

Not only would they "clean the plugs" on a diesel before they take off
on a trip like that, but they'll often do a teardown between such trips.
Maybe replace the liners, pistons, bearings, whatever shows signs of
wear. Notice he didn't say spark plugs. Diesel injectors could also be
called plugs since they, just like spark plugs, *plug* a hole in the
cylinder head. Glow plugs are also called plugs because they also plug
a hole.

Your mistake is assuming that he meant "spark" plugs when he said plugs.
And from there you took it to the height of stupidity by claiming:
"The Andrea Gail had a gasoline engine."

The only irony is that you're able to figure out how to post to a
newsgroup.

Steve

On 10 Jul 2004 14:31:11 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

schlackoff, NObody "cleans" fuel injectors on a diesel the night before leaving
on an ocean trip, and NObody cleans the glow plugs either. btw, wanna tell us
just how glow plugs are cleaned by the crew?

also, why in hell do fishing boats "often do a teardown" (your words, see
below) on a engine to do a major overhaul (as you as described, see below)
"between such trips"? (your words, see below)

Because they put so many hours on it at a time. Because they depend on
their single engine to get them out and back over thousands of miles at
a time. Because the engines we're talking about are made to be easily
serviced with replacable wear items.


Your mistake is assuming that he meant "spark" plugs when he said plugs

I made no mistake at all. the author made the mistake, I just noticed it. you
schlackoff, on the other hand, STILL are not sure that maybe the author was
right and the crew cleaned the plugs the night before they left.

The author may have made a mistake, and may not have made a mistake.
You just can't read, that's all. You added "spark" in front of plugs
when it wasn't there. So no matter what the author said, you were wrong
and like always, just can't admit it.

Steve

(JAXAshby) wrote in message ...
jim, the AUTHOR stated the crew cleaned the plugs on the engine the night
before the boat sailed, so ****therefore it has to be true**** doesn't it.

perhaps the irony slipped by you, jim?

Did you really read the book? It is based on actual events, but much
of the content is things that are assumed to have occured, as the
people that know the real answers (the crew) are dead.

If the author included some hearsay about the crew cleaning plugs, it
in no way means it actually happened. Junger was pretty clear about
this kind of stuff at the beginning of the book.

So you have attempted to start yet another arguement on another
half-jax-assed notion that you know anything.



I believe that if you do some research, you will find that the Andrea Gail
was
powered by a single John Deere diesel engine. It also was equipped with a
gasoline powered ice maker which had been problematic on previous trips.

JAXAshby wrote:

For sure it did, for the author specificly mentioned the crew of the
ill-fated
vessel was so anxious about the trip that they went to the boat the night
before leaving to clean the plugs on the engine.

One sentence, just one sentence, but it clearly shows the Andrea Gail had a
gasoline engine. At least in the First Edition (for those out there who
know
what a First Edition is, the rest of you can go fry an egg).

curtis, you be kinda dense.

From: (Curtis CCR)
Date: 7/13/2004 1:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

(JAXAshby) wrote in message
...
jim, the AUTHOR stated the crew cleaned the plugs on the engine the night
before the boat sailed, so ****therefore it has to be true**** doesn't it.

perhaps the irony slipped by you, jim?

Did you really read the book? It is based on actual events, but much
of the content is things that are assumed to have occured, as the
people that know the real answers (the crew) are dead.

If the author included some hearsay about the crew cleaning plugs, it
in no way means it actually happened. Junger was pretty clear about
this kind of stuff at the beginning of the book.

So you have attempted to start yet another arguement on another
half-jax-assed notion that you know anything.



I believe that if you do some research, you will find that the Andrea Gail
was
powered by a single John Deere diesel engine. It also was equipped with a
gasoline powered ice maker which had been problematic on previous trips.

JAXAshby wrote:

For sure it did, for the author specificly mentioned the crew of the
ill-fated
vessel was so anxious about the trip that they went to the boat the
night
before leaving to clean the plugs on the engine.

One sentence, just one sentence, but it clearly shows the Andrea Gail
had a
gasoline engine. At least in the First Edition (for those out there who
know
what a First Edition is, the rest of you can go fry an egg).