"Harry Krause" wrote in message
Working for a living is the best motivation for getting a white color job?


Damn Harry, you sound almost as much of a racist as that Skipper dude. ; )

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

You write for a union rag, Harry. What *union* do you belong to?

My writing has appeared in the publications of at least two dozen labor
unions, and at least that many commercial magazines.

Is there a "writer's" union?


You sure ask a lot of personal questions for a fella who is afraid to
post with his real name. As I stated, I am a dues-paying member of more
than one labor union.

Why do you pay dues to unions that don't have anything to do with *your*
job?

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

You write for a union rag, Harry. What *union* do you belong to?

My writing has appeared in the publications of at least two dozen labor
unions, and at least that many commercial magazines.

You sure ask a lot of personal questions for a fella who is afraid to
post with his real name.

I've provided info about where I live, what kind of boat I have, where I got
my undergrad degree, when I got that degree, what kind of degree, where I
went to dental school, where I grew up boating, my age, my kid's age, etc.
Unless you're looking for an excellent dentist in Naples, you really don't
need my name, now do you!

damn, harry.

the only thing you lack to make your anti-american resume complete is a
canadian passport and a rainbow sticker on your car.

Labor rights and civil liberties are "anti-American"? Do tell

ROFL, it is funny that some people don't want competition in politics.

Competition is good for business and good for the country, even if you don't
like one party or the other, they keep each other working harder and smarter
to stay in power. The country definitely will suffer if we do not have a
strong two party system.

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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damn, harry.

the only thing you lack to make your anti-american resume complete is a
canadian passport and a rainbow sticker on your car.

Labor rights and civil liberties are "anti-American"? Do tell

i was being sacrcastic.....you know how it is unpatriotic nowadays to not be a
hypnotized "commander in chief" follower.

chris

Subject: What Makes a Political Liberal
From: (Gould 0738)
Date: 8/8/03 6:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:

damn, harry.

the only thing you lack to make your anti-american resume complete is a
canadian passport and a rainbow sticker on your car.

Labor rights and civil liberties are "anti-American"? Do tell

One of the best ways to keep the union out of a shop is to pay the employees
competitively and treat them fairly. Every time the non-union refinery has to
raise wages 50 cents an hour to keep its top workers from sliding across town
to the union job, we can be pretty sure the management of the non-union plant
gets up a new head of anti-union steam.

You're probably right that wages in Texas refineries would be the same across
the board without union representation.
Probably somewhere around $5.75 an hour.

right.

that swoosh we just heard was this concept going over the head of the foxnews
crowd in here.

chris

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

You write for a union rag, Harry. What *union* do you belong to?

My writing has appeared in the publications of at least two dozen labor
unions, and at least that many commercial magazines.

Is there a "writer's" union?

There are several, perhaps more than several. At different times, I have
been a member of three different ones, and I am a member of one now and
have been for many years.






You sure ask a lot of personal questions for a fella who is afraid to
post with his real name. As I stated, I am a dues-paying member of more
than one labor union.

Why do you pay dues to unions that don't have anything to do with *your*
job?


Well, the one in which my status is inactive (though I still pay modest
dues) is a skilled-trade union, and not easy to get in via examination,
as I did, versus a five-year apprenticeship, which I did not do. I had
to take an "improver's" course and pass a hellacious multi-day test to
prove my mettle with metal, as it were, to get a journeyman's card. It's
not something I'd give up easily. And it is helpful to me in my dealings
with other trade unionists, many of whom are wary of outsiders. I can go
on a job site anywhere in the country, go places on that jobsite that
are absolutely closed, and get the interviews I need.

There are other reasons, too. Psychic rewards come to mind.




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Hmmmm. You learn something new everyday.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

You write for a union rag, Harry. What *union* do you belong to?

My writing has appeared in the publications of at least two dozen labor
unions, and at least that many commercial magazines.

Is there a "writer's" union?

There are several, perhaps more than several. At different times, I have
been a member of three different ones, and I am a member of one now and
have been for many years.






You sure ask a lot of personal questions for a fella who is afraid to
post with his real name. As I stated, I am a dues-paying member of more
than one labor union.

Why do you pay dues to unions that don't have anything to do with *your*
job?


Well, the one in which my status is inactive (though I still pay modest
dues) is a skilled-trade union, and not easy to get in via examination,
as I did, versus a five-year apprenticeship, which I did not do. I had
to take an "improver's" course and pass a hellacious multi-day test to
prove my mettle with metal, as it were, to get a journeyman's card. It's
not something I'd give up easily. And it is helpful to me in my dealings
with other trade unionists, many of whom are wary of outsiders. I can go
on a job site anywhere in the country, go places on that jobsite that
are absolutely closed, and get the interviews I need.

There are other reasons, too. Psychic rewards come to mind.




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It's possible that Liberalism and Conservatism do not reflect accurately the
seperate political philosophies that exist. I havn't talked to a REAL
Republican or Democrat, for that matter, in 30 years. It's more a case of,
my side is somehow more enlightened and capable than your side in managing
the affairs of our great nation. In reality, both sides continue to fail
miserably at their self centered agenda whilst, blaming the other for it's
woes........I gotta tell ya, it's a real joke and worth a couple of yuks to
read some of this tripe. To think that ANY political philosphy should
blindly be followed and defended in argument, escapes any sense of
intelligence in my book. JMTCW....
"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message
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On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 13:33:30 +0000, JohnH wrote:


Well, I think my study was pretty thorough on what makes a liberal,...

Huh?

You never made it past your own borders. You don't even have "liberals"
and 'conservatives" in the US - you have "democrats" and "republicans".
For liberals and conservatives, come to Canada. (and in England they're
called "tories" and "whigs")

Now crawl back under your rock and count the insects there, assuming
that's All the Insects in All the World.

Lloyd