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On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 13:14:50 +0000, Dave Hall wrote:
The founding fathers on our constitiution recognized this tendancy, and that's why they created our system of checks and balances. That's also why we have things like "term limits". I noticed that Bill Clinton, of all people, has been making noise about removing or modifying that limit, as of late. I don't see much good to come from that. I've never understood the reasoning behind term limits. If we are doing our job as an electorate, an ineffective legislature would be gone. In a democracy, we do get the leadership we deserve. It seems to me, all term limits do is limit our choices, in the rare case we actually get an effective and honorable leader. |
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And *you've* never used the words right-wing and conservative in the same
sentence? "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message thlink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message thlink.net... Great for Berkeley. However, this report was written by 4 left-wing liberals from Berkeley's Graduate School of Education "Psychology" Program...which ranks 45th in the nation by the way. As opposed to right-wing liberals..... That must be one of the DSM-IV mental disorders that's yet to be named. :-) Well, *YOU* combined the terms "left-wing" and "liberals", numbskull. You must have the exact same disorder. Or, you managed to buy your way out of English classes and thus cannot understand redundancy. |
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Actually, no. First of all, the two terms suggest different concepts.
Therefore, it would be stupid to combine the two terms. "NOYB" wrote in message thlink.net... And *you've* never used the words right-wing and conservative in the same sentence? "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message thlink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message thlink.net... Great for Berkeley. However, this report was written by 4 left-wing liberals from Berkeley's Graduate School of Education "Psychology" Program...which ranks 45th in the nation by the way. As opposed to right-wing liberals..... That must be one of the DSM-IV mental disorders that's yet to be named. :-) Well, *YOU* combined the terms "left-wing" and "liberals", numbskull. You must have the exact same disorder. Or, you managed to buy your way out of English classes and thus cannot understand redundancy. |
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Doug Kanter wrote:
Actually, no. First of all, the two terms suggest different concepts. Therefore, it would be stupid to combine the two terms. The reality is, the header itself is an oxymoron. -- * * * email sent to will *never* get to me. |
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basskisser wrote:
"NOYB" wrote in message rthlink.net... "basskisser" wrote in message Why waste our time reading a biased hate-mongering piece written by ultra left wing liberals? Kettle, black? Must mean it was spot on... -- * * * email sent to will *never* get to me. |
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Jim wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... noah wrote: On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 17:41:07 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: snippage-my apologies It's been fun watching Tom Ridge play "voodoo security" the last week or so. Let's see...we'll heighten the security alert to make Americans uneasy, then we'll tell them we don't need as many sky marshals as we have, then we'll tell Americans to be prepared for a skyjacking... Has there been a more incompetent administration in the last 50 years? I don't think so. As you already know, these "Security Alerts" are doubly inane. Since 9/11, since Afghanistan, since Iraq, *every* day should be seen as a "high risk" day. Are we going to count on Al-Jazira to predict our security risks??? What a bunch of horse****! If Al-Qaida is going to hit us, they aren't likely to put it on the radio or TV first. "Al-Jazira stated today that you should call your mother." HAR!!! More frightening is the thought that the Bush Administration needs every diversion that they can get, because the pacification of Iraq gets more deadly, and more uncontrollable, every day. The absolute certainty of WMD's has become "murky intelligence". Saddam's certain nuclear- sorry, noocular program has become an "intelligence error". The only saving grace at this point is some sort of "liberation" for the Iraqi people, although loyalty will temporarily lie with whoever gives them food, electricity, and water. A hungry man does not care about Democracy, he wants to eat, and to feed his family, and he does not care who is running the show. Are we delusional (just a question) in thinking that a society that has been fuedal for 3,000 years will suddenly embrace Democracy? The jubilation at the toppling of Saddam's statue has been replaced by demonstrations and RPG's. For those that remember, and for those that don't, it is becoming like Vietnam. Daily death counts in a country that we do not, and cannot, control, populated by people that we do not understand. My utmost respect and appreciation goes to the members of our various armed forces, who place their lives on the line every day, to defend their country. I also pray daily that our leadership is worthy of such sacrifice. My respectful condolences go to those who have lost loved ones in this war. noah I'm afraid it is going to take a significantly larger number of body bags to force the Bush Administration to come to some sort of sense. Today's news reports were full of features about ultra-conservative mullahs from Iran returning to Iraq to take up where they left before Saddam, to establish a theocracy in Iraq. Now *that* should be interesting. You really have to wonder how stupid Bush really is to go down the path he is following. He is creating a world in which those who oppose us are solidifying in ways never imagined in the "good" old days of the Kremlin. We're going to take a big hit from the terrorists, and when we do, it will be because of Bush. That has to be made crystal clear to Americans. Here is a news flash for you....we already did. Shall we place the blame for 9-11 then on the hands of BJ Clinton? Why would you do that? Bush was captain of the ship of state on 9-11, and it has been documented his administration had all sorts of info that something big was coming up. So, what did Bush do? The idiot took the month of August off. Bush had been in office nine months by the time 9/11 occured. It happened on his watch. He has to take the blame for it. If you were captain of a Naval ship for nine months and during your 10th month in command, something horrendous happened for which you had some previous hints, who would the Navy hold responsible? You? Or the guy who was captain the year earlier? -- * * * email sent to will *never* get to me. |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jim wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... noah wrote: On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 17:41:07 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: snippage-my apologies It's been fun watching Tom Ridge play "voodoo security" the last week or so. Let's see...we'll heighten the security alert to make Americans uneasy, then we'll tell them we don't need as many sky marshals as we have, then we'll tell Americans to be prepared for a skyjacking... Has there been a more incompetent administration in the last 50 years? I don't think so. As you already know, these "Security Alerts" are doubly inane. Since 9/11, since Afghanistan, since Iraq, *every* day should be seen as a "high risk" day. Are we going to count on Al-Jazira to predict our security risks??? What a bunch of horse****! If Al-Qaida is going to hit us, they aren't likely to put it on the radio or TV first. "Al-Jazira stated today that you should call your mother." HAR!!! More frightening is the thought that the Bush Administration needs every diversion that they can get, because the pacification of Iraq gets more deadly, and more uncontrollable, every day. The absolute certainty of WMD's has become "murky intelligence". Saddam's certain nuclear- sorry, noocular program has become an "intelligence error". The only saving grace at this point is some sort of "liberation" for the Iraqi people, although loyalty will temporarily lie with whoever gives them food, electricity, and water. A hungry man does not care about Democracy, he wants to eat, and to feed his family, and he does not care who is running the show. Are we delusional (just a question) in thinking that a society that has been fuedal for 3,000 years will suddenly embrace Democracy? The jubilation at the toppling of Saddam's statue has been replaced by demonstrations and RPG's. For those that remember, and for those that don't, it is becoming like Vietnam. Daily death counts in a country that we do not, and cannot, control, populated by people that we do not understand. My utmost respect and appreciation goes to the members of our various armed forces, who place their lives on the line every day, to defend their country. I also pray daily that our leadership is worthy of such sacrifice. My respectful condolences go to those who have lost loved ones in this war. noah I'm afraid it is going to take a significantly larger number of body bags to force the Bush Administration to come to some sort of sense. Today's news reports were full of features about ultra-conservative mullahs from Iran returning to Iraq to take up where they left before Saddam, to establish a theocracy in Iraq. Now *that* should be interesting. You really have to wonder how stupid Bush really is to go down the path he is following. He is creating a world in which those who oppose us are solidifying in ways never imagined in the "good" old days of the Kremlin. We're going to take a big hit from the terrorists, and when we do, it will be because of Bush. That has to be made crystal clear to Americans. Here is a news flash for you....we already did. Shall we place the blame for 9-11 then on the hands of BJ Clinton? Why would you do that? Bush was captain of the ship of state on 9-11, and it has been documented his administration had all sorts of info that something big was coming up. So, what did Bush do? The idiot took the month of August off. Bush had been in office nine months by the time 9/11 occured. It happened on his watch. He has to take the blame for it. If you were captain of a Naval ship for nine months and during your 10th month in command, something horrendous happened for which you had some previous hints, who would the Navy hold responsible? You? Or the guy who was captain the year earlier? -- * * * email sent to will *never* get to me. You are an absolute buffoon if you think 9-11 was GWB's fault. |
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Jim wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jim wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... noah wrote: On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 17:41:07 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: snippage-my apologies It's been fun watching Tom Ridge play "voodoo security" the last week or so. Let's see...we'll heighten the security alert to make Americans uneasy, then we'll tell them we don't need as many sky marshals as we have, then we'll tell Americans to be prepared for a skyjacking... Has there been a more incompetent administration in the last 50 years? I don't think so. As you already know, these "Security Alerts" are doubly inane. Since 9/11, since Afghanistan, since Iraq, *every* day should be seen as a "high risk" day. Are we going to count on Al-Jazira to predict our security risks??? What a bunch of horse****! If Al-Qaida is going to hit us, they aren't likely to put it on the radio or TV first. "Al-Jazira stated today that you should call your mother." HAR!!! More frightening is the thought that the Bush Administration needs every diversion that they can get, because the pacification of Iraq gets more deadly, and more uncontrollable, every day. The absolute certainty of WMD's has become "murky intelligence". Saddam's certain nuclear- sorry, noocular program has become an "intelligence error". The only saving grace at this point is some sort of "liberation" for the Iraqi people, although loyalty will temporarily lie with whoever gives them food, electricity, and water. A hungry man does not care about Democracy, he wants to eat, and to feed his family, and he does not care who is running the show. Are we delusional (just a question) in thinking that a society that has been fuedal for 3,000 years will suddenly embrace Democracy? The jubilation at the toppling of Saddam's statue has been replaced by demonstrations and RPG's. For those that remember, and for those that don't, it is becoming like Vietnam. Daily death counts in a country that we do not, and cannot, control, populated by people that we do not understand. My utmost respect and appreciation goes to the members of our various armed forces, who place their lives on the line every day, to defend their country. I also pray daily that our leadership is worthy of such sacrifice. My respectful condolences go to those who have lost loved ones in this war. noah I'm afraid it is going to take a significantly larger number of body bags to force the Bush Administration to come to some sort of sense. Today's news reports were full of features about ultra-conservative mullahs from Iran returning to Iraq to take up where they left before Saddam, to establish a theocracy in Iraq. Now *that* should be interesting. You really have to wonder how stupid Bush really is to go down the path he is following. He is creating a world in which those who oppose us are solidifying in ways never imagined in the "good" old days of the Kremlin. We're going to take a big hit from the terrorists, and when we do, it will be because of Bush. That has to be made crystal clear to Americans. Here is a news flash for you....we already did. Shall we place the blame for 9-11 then on the hands of BJ Clinton? Why would you do that? Bush was captain of the ship of state on 9-11, and it has been documented his administration had all sorts of info that something big was coming up. So, what did Bush do? The idiot took the month of August off. Bush had been in office nine months by the time 9/11 occured. It happened on his watch. He has to take the blame for it. If you were captain of a Naval ship for nine months and during your 10th month in command, something horrendous happened for which you had some previous hints, who would the Navy hold responsible? You? Or the guy who was captain the year earlier? -- * * * email sent to will *never* get to me. You are an absolute buffoon if you think 9-11 was GWB's fault. Bush is responsible for what happens on his watch. Period. -- * * * email sent to will *never* get to me. |
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No, not right
Look back into your history, economics and look at the trends. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "basskisser" wrote in message om... " Tuuk" wrote in message ... Hey,, Somebody needs to fiscally responsibly run the country or other countries. I mean your socialist friends would spend their way into poverty and end up with nothing. If you dont like the way the country is running, just sit back in your arm chair, collect your welfare and go play bingo. Leave the big things to those who know how to do them better. If not for you, for the sake of the entire nation's survival. Really? As I recall, eight years under Clinton......fantastic economy. Reagan? Economy sucked. Bush I? Economy sucked. Bush II? Economy was driven into the ground in a hell of a hurry. Fiscal responsibility, indeed! Actually, if you look at a graph of the stock market and compare it with parties in office, it's always done significantly better during Democratic administrations. The Repubs in my PaineWebber office used to hate this chart. Their stock response to it was "Yeah...well....oh yeah?" |
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No, don't be a baffoon, 9-11 was not GWB's fault, and he did do the right
thing. Look at the situation in Canada, Ontario where all the liberals and NDP who were bought out by the teachers and the strikes that damaged many students year. A Conservative leader arose and cleaned up years of messes that the liberals created. There were high percentages of students graduating high school who couldn't even read or write. These students then went on to university where international students who also didn't know proper english crushed them in grade scoring. The universities had to tweak down their delivery of material (remove some hard stuff) because the Asian students are near twice as smart as domestic. Let the liberals continue leading the country and guess who will own the west (they already own growing percentages of Canada and add more economic and tangible benefit than any other ethnic group). I for one welcome them and realize that we need them. But I believe the liberals and especially the far left are responsible for the west's low grade teachers, poor economy, inability to compete globally, huge debts. "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 15:19:28 -0700, "jps" wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message rthlink.net... Stolen from the internet: Feeble retort to many man years of honest work. Figures your hero's "cure" for liberals is violence. These days it seems conservatives are finding violence to be the tool they resort to most frequently. Hurts their brains to do any of that deep thinking or have any manner of patience, it's simpler to just kick some ass and figure out what happened later. Meanwhile, 250 of our kids and countless innocents have paid for it with their lives. F'ing idiots. No more feeble than the Berkely Bull**** so many of you are so enamored with. John On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD |
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Tuuk wrote:
No, don't be a baffoon, 9-11 was not GWB's fault, and he did do the right thing. Bush was captain of the ship of state at the time of 9-11. He is responsible. As for "doing the right thing," Bush is clueless. Look at the situation in Canada, Ontario where all the liberals and NDP who were bought out by the teachers and the strikes that damaged many students year. A Conservative leader arose and cleaned up years of messes that the liberals created. Oh, right. -- * * * email sent to will *never* get to me. |
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Did you go to a Jesuit College? The Jesuits excel at teaching critical
thinking and for having strong liberal arts program. "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message thlink.net... Great for Berkeley. However, this report was written by 4 left-wing liberals from Berkeley's Graduate School of Education "Psychology" Program...which ranks 45th in the nation by the way. As opposed to right-wing liberals..... That must be one of the DSM-IV mental disorders that's yet to be named. :-) I don't believe the DSM is required reading at dental trade school. Really? Do you *believe* studies that show almost 3/4 of patients presenting with atypical facial pain (non-odontogenic in nature), have a specific psychiatric disorder by DSM-IV criteria? Do you *believe* in the etiological relevance of specific phobias (ie--dental phobia) to panic disorder with agoraphobia (PDA)? Do you *believe* you have no idea what you're talking about? PS-I liked your "trade school" dig, however. :-) You've never read the DSM-IV or any of its predecessors. As for my "dig" at trade school, I suppose the Jesuits have been a major influence in my life. I went to college to help expand my mind and to get a liberal arts education, not to learn a trade. Different strokes, eh? -- * * * email sent to will *never* get to me. |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message thlink.net... Great for Berkeley. However, this report was written by 4 left-wing liberals from Berkeley's Graduate School of Education "Psychology" Program...which ranks 45th in the nation by the way. As opposed to right-wing liberals..... That must be one of the DSM-IV mental disorders that's yet to be named. :-) I don't believe the DSM is required reading at dental trade school. Really? Do you *believe* studies that show almost 3/4 of patients presenting with atypical facial pain (non-odontogenic in nature), have a specific psychiatric disorder by DSM-IV criteria? Do you *believe* in the etiological relevance of specific phobias (ie--dental phobia) to panic disorder with agoraphobia (PDA)? Do you *believe* you have no idea what you're talking about? PS-I liked your "trade school" dig, however. :-) You've never read the DSM-IV or any of its predecessors. Dentists are many times the front-line agents in the recognition of anxiety, eating, personality, and especially substance-related disorders. *Of course* we've been instructed in the recognition of disorders defined by the DSM-IV criteria. As an aside...my favorite disorder is NPD...because it's sooooo easy and sooooo much fun to push the buttons of a Narcissist. As for my "dig" at trade school, I suppose the Jesuits have been a major influence in my life. I went to college to help expand my mind and to get a liberal arts education, not to learn a trade. Different strokes, eh? I went to college to prepare me with the skills that would allow me to obtain a meaningful, well-paying job immediately upon graduation. I use my *own time* to expand my mind and get a liberal arts education...'cause you don't need to spend money on a formal education to achieve either of those. As for your "different strokes" comment...you've obviously been spending too much time listening to Joycelyn Elders. |
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"Bill Cole" wrote in message news:m5_Xa.50789$Oz4.14138@rwcrnsc54... Did you go to a Jesuit College? The Jesuits excel at teaching critical thinking They obviously failed with Harry. |
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"JohnH" wrote in message
... On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 15:19:28 -0700, "jps" wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message rthlink.net... Stolen from the internet: Feeble retort to many man years of honest work. Figures your hero's "cure" for liberals is violence. These days it seems conservatives are finding violence to be the tool they resort to most frequently. Hurts their brains to do any of that deep thinking or have any manner of patience, it's simpler to just kick some ass and figure out what happened later. Meanwhile, 250 of our kids and countless innocents have paid for it with their lives. F'ing idiots. No more feeble than the Berkely Bull**** so many of you are so enamored with. Nice deducing there John. Compare PhDs putting man years of work into original research, compilation, theory and conclusion and compare that to a ****ing moron who thinks beating liberals up is the answer. That says more about your utter blindness than perhaps anything I've heard from you. What happened to the scientific method (perhaps you should try refuting the research and conclusions) and how could you possibly endorse people who're promoting violence? More simple answers for simple people. You're just the kind of fool those PhDs are writing about. |
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Doug Kanter wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message om... " Tuuk" wrote in message ... Hey,, Somebody needs to fiscally responsibly run the country or other countries. I mean your socialist friends would spend their way into poverty and end up with nothing. If you dont like the way the country is running, just sit back in your arm chair, collect your welfare and go play bingo. Leave the big things to those who know how to do them better. If not for you, for the sake of the entire nation's survival. Really? As I recall, eight years under Clinton......fantastic economy. Reagan? Economy sucked. Bush I? Economy sucked. Bush II? Economy was driven into the ground in a hell of a hurry. Fiscal responsibility, indeed! Actually, if you look at a graph of the stock market and compare it with parties in office, it's always done significantly better during Democratic administrations. The Repubs in my PaineWebber office used to hate this chart. Their stock response to it was "Yeah...well....oh yeah?" Well, there's a very good explaination for this trend. Usually, it takes time for the economy to "turn around". Fiscally responsible policies, put in place by republicans, usually do not fully "kick in" until after their term is over. Since people are usually not patient enough, they can be swayed to vote with their wallets, and a democrat can get in when times get tough. But as things turn around, it's usually the policies of the previous administration, which are normally responsible. The other theory, is that the economy is completely independant from the effects of politics. Little or nothing a political figurehead can do, will affect the economy to any large degree. But perception often being stronger than reality for some people, they often think that politics make a bigger difference, and the political trends are merely reactionary. Dave |
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"NOYB" wrote in message rthlink.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message om... "NOYB" wrote in message k.net... "basskisser" wrote in message om... It had the whiff of parody. Psychologists dissecting the conservative brain? A press release from UC Berkeley snip UC Berkeley, eh? Not worth reading then. Where did you graduate from? Anyplace with nearly the distinction of UC Berkeley? Or DID you graduate? BSME 1993 Purdue University (I took the EIT...does that make me an "engineer"?) Uh, no, it makes you an EIT. DDS 1999 Indiana University School of Dentistry. *You* decide if Purdue's Mechanical Engineering program qualifies as "near the distinction" of Berkeley. Purdue is a fine school. I have a fellow engineer who is a Purdue grad. He also took grad classes at Berkeley. Why? better classes for his particular interests. Now, please show how Purdue is a better school than Berkeley. And Indiana U. is not even in the running! |
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NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message thlink.net... Great for Berkeley. However, this report was written by 4 left-wing liberals from Berkeley's Graduate School of Education "Psychology" Program...which ranks 45th in the nation by the way. As opposed to right-wing liberals..... That must be one of the DSM-IV mental disorders that's yet to be named. :-) I don't believe the DSM is required reading at dental trade school. Really? Do you *believe* studies that show almost 3/4 of patients presenting with atypical facial pain (non-odontogenic in nature), have a specific psychiatric disorder by DSM-IV criteria? Do you *believe* in the etiological relevance of specific phobias (ie--dental phobia) to panic disorder with agoraphobia (PDA)? Do you *believe* you have no idea what you're talking about? PS-I liked your "trade school" dig, however. :-) You've never read the DSM-IV or any of its predecessors. Dentists are many times the front-line agents in the recognition of anxiety, eating, personality, and especially substance-related disorders. *Of course* we've been instructed in the recognition of disorders defined by the DSM-IV criteria. As an aside...my favorite disorder is NPD...because it's sooooo easy and sooooo much fun to push the buttons of a Narcissist. Mine too. But we wouldn't know any NPD candidates on this newsgroup would we? ;-) I also enjoy pushing the buttons of those with APD. The internet is full of many "socially challenged" people. Many of whom use this as their only social outlet. Typically their demeanor and attitude, is as easy as a lighthouse to spot. Dave |
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"NOYB" wrote in message rthlink.net...
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jamce1 wrote: harry, i think what is being lost here is that another attack would be good for bush, ie simple minded people will always revert back to basic instincts when attacked. he makes people feel good and safe with his soundbites, wargames, and religeous good vs evil bull****. 911 was the best thing that ever happened to this administration, and he would surely be one term if it wasnt for that. I'm sure there are Bush-ites who are praying to Allah for another attack so that their "fearful leader" can try, once again, to look "presidential," instead of lookling like an idiot. That's where Dems and Republicans differ. We'd never hope for tragedy and suffering just to further our agenda. You guys, however, were caught red-handed in California trying to prolong the budget crisis. You're a bunch of sick *******s that aren't worth a piece of dried up dog poop on the bottom of some bum's sole. Oh, really? Bu****es are hoping to get re-elected JUST on tragedy. What else do they have? Economy? I guess they could hope to get re-elected on the premise that they put us back into the dark ages with the Patriot Act. |
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thunder wrote:
On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 13:14:50 +0000, Dave Hall wrote: The founding fathers on our constitiution recognized this tendancy, and that's why they created our system of checks and balances. That's also why we have things like "term limits". I noticed that Bill Clinton, of all people, has been making noise about removing or modifying that limit, as of late. I don't see much good to come from that. I've never understood the reasoning behind term limits. If we are doing our job as an electorate, an ineffective legislature would be gone. In a democracy, we do get the leadership we deserve. It seems to me, all term limits do is limit our choices, in the rare case we actually get an effective and honorable leader. You bring up a good point. The reason for term limits is so that no one can "monopolize" the government for longer than their term limit. This is supposedly done so that someone cannot be "corrupted" by years of accumulated political "connections", and the overwhelming tendancy toward favoratism, that these "connections" often lead to. Opponents bring up the cases where we get a (increasingly rare) politician, who becomes polpular, and his policies are effective and positive for our society. The "he's doing a great job, why should he be forced to step down" scenario. If we, the citizens, are doing our civic duty, and making responsible choices, and the system is relatively free of corruption and "dirty" tricks, in theory we would be able to remove those who are not doing a good job. The problem is that most of the people who even bother to vote, are often not the most informed people, and they decide their vote based on superficial "qualities", and the sound byte issues that are spoon fed to them. I guess what term limits really mean, is that we don't trust our own system to take care of itself, and that we need an additional "safety valve". Dave |
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Basskisser: If you are employed as an engineer as you claim, why the majority of your
posts to this NG made during normal business hours????? "basskisser" wrote in message m... "NOYB" wrote in message rthlink.net... "basskisser" wrote in message om... "NOYB" wrote in message k.net... "basskisser" wrote in message om... It had the whiff of parody. Psychologists dissecting the conservative brain? A press release from UC Berkeley snip UC Berkeley, eh? Not worth reading then. Where did you graduate from? Anyplace with nearly the distinction of UC Berkeley? Or DID you graduate? BSME 1993 Purdue University (I took the EIT...does that make me an "engineer"?) Uh, no, it makes you an EIT. DDS 1999 Indiana University School of Dentistry. *You* decide if Purdue's Mechanical Engineering program qualifies as "near the distinction" of Berkeley. Purdue is a fine school. I have a fellow engineer who is a Purdue grad. He also took grad classes at Berkeley. Why? better classes for his particular interests. Now, please show how Purdue is a better school than Berkeley. And Indiana U. is not even in the running! |
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Basskisser: If you are employed as an engineer as you claim, why the majority of your posts to this NG made during normal business hours????? No one said that he was an *ethical* engineer... grin |
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You better be careful or he will threaten to beat you into a pulp.
"Jim" wrote in message news:Gl6Ya.78866$Ho3.9903@sccrnsc03... Basskisser: If you are employed as an engineer as you claim, why the majority of your posts to this NG made during normal business hours????? "basskisser" wrote in message m... "NOYB" wrote in message rthlink.net... "basskisser" wrote in message om... "NOYB" wrote in message k.net... "basskisser" wrote in message om... It had the whiff of parody. Psychologists dissecting the conservative brain? A press release from UC Berkeley snip UC Berkeley, eh? Not worth reading then. Where did you graduate from? Anyplace with nearly the distinction of UC Berkeley? Or DID you graduate? BSME 1993 Purdue University (I took the EIT...does that make me an "engineer"?) Uh, no, it makes you an EIT. DDS 1999 Indiana University School of Dentistry. *You* decide if Purdue's Mechanical Engineering program qualifies as "near the distinction" of Berkeley. Purdue is a fine school. I have a fellow engineer who is a Purdue grad. He also took grad classes at Berkeley. Why? better classes for his particular interests. Now, please show how Purdue is a better school than Berkeley. And Indiana U. is not even in the running! |
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"Jim" wrote in message news:Gl6Ya.78866$Ho3.9903@sccrnsc03... Basskisser: If you are employed as an engineer as you claim, why the majority of your posts to this NG made during normal business hours????? When at home he's probably too busy tending to his plants to post . |
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"NOYB" wrote in message
thlink.net... Great for Berkeley. However, this report was written by 4 left-wing liberals from Berkeley's Graduate School of Education "Psychology" Program...which ranks 45th in the nation by the way. Ranks 45th in what way? Number of students enrolled? Percentage of successful job placements? Did they compare it to schools whose purpose is equivalent? Some psych programs are primarily aimed at clinical specializations. Others focus more on research. Who ranked Berkeley? |
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"Jim" wrote in message
news:Gl6Ya.78866$Ho3.9903@sccrnsc03... Basskisser: If you are employed as an engineer as you claim, why the majority of your posts to this NG made during normal business hours????? Perhaps he is capable of multitasking, and typing fast (a lost art). |
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"Dave Hall" wrote in message
... You bring up a good point. The reason for term limits is so that no one can "monopolize" the government for longer than their term limit. This is supposedly done so that someone cannot be "corrupted" by years of accumulated political "connections", and the overwhelming tendancy toward favoratism, that these "connections" often lead to. Opponents bring up the cases where we get a (increasingly rare) politician, who becomes polpular, and his policies are effective and positive for our society. The "he's doing a great job, why should he be forced to step down" scenario. If we, the citizens, are doing our civic duty, and making responsible choices, and the system is relatively free of corruption and "dirty" tricks, in theory we would be able to remove those who are not doing a good job. The problem is that most of the people who even bother to vote, are often not the most informed people, and they decide their vote based on superficial "qualities", and the sound byte issues that are spoon fed to them. I guess what term limits really mean, is that we don't trust our own system to take care of itself, and that we need an additional "safety valve". Dave There was no grammatical reason for placing quotation marks around 4 words in your first paragraph and two words in your second paragraph. |
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"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message thlink.net... Great for Berkeley. However, this report was written by 4 left-wing liberals from Berkeley's Graduate School of Education "Psychology" Program...which ranks 45th in the nation by the way. Ranks 45th in what way? Number of students enrolled? Percentage of successful job placements? Did they compare it to schools whose purpose is equivalent? Some psych programs are primarily aimed at clinical specializations. Others focus more on research. Who ranked Berkeley? I pulled that number from a 2001 US News report on school rankings. I couldn't find the original report, but here's an excerpt from Univ. of Iowa's website (describing Iowa's Psych program): * Psychology, doctoral program: No. 45, tying with Arizona State University, Duke University (department of experimental psychology), the University of Arizona, the University of California-Berkeley (School of Education), the University of Massachusetts-Amherst, the University of Michigan-Ann Arbor, the University of Oregon and the University of Pittsburgh-Main Campus (2001 ranking). Note: This ranking is for the program within the UI College of Liberal Arts and Sciences' department of psychology. Oh well. I guess we can ignore this, since there's no explanation of what the ranking means. |
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NOYB you better watch it. You confuse these guys when you present them with facts.
"NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message thlink.net... Great for Berkeley. However, this report was written by 4 left-wing liberals from Berkeley's Graduate School of Education "Psychology" Program...which ranks 45th in the nation by the way. Ranks 45th in what way? Number of students enrolled? Percentage of successful job placements? Did they compare it to schools whose purpose is equivalent? Some psych programs are primarily aimed at clinical specializations. Others focus more on research. Who ranked Berkeley? I pulled that number from a 2001 US News report on school rankings. I couldn't find the original report, but here's an excerpt from Univ. of Iowa's website (describing Iowa's Psych program): * Psychology, doctoral program: No. 45, tying with Arizona State University, Duke University (department of experimental psychology), the University of Arizona, the University of California-Berkeley (School of Education), the University of Massachusetts-Amherst, the University of Michigan-Ann Arbor, the University of Oregon and the University of Pittsburgh-Main Campus (2001 ranking). Note: This ranking is for the program within the UI College of Liberal Arts and Sciences' department of psychology. |
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"Jim" wrote in message news:Gl6Ya.78866$Ho3.9903@sccrnsc03... Basskisser: If you are employed as an engineer as you claim, why the majority of your posts to this NG made during normal business hours????? "basskisser" wrote in message m... "NOYB" wrote in message rthlink.net... "basskisser" wrote in message om... "NOYB" wrote in message k.net... "basskisser" wrote in message om... It had the whiff of parody. Psychologists dissecting the conservative brain? A press release from UC Berkeley snip UC Berkeley, eh? Not worth reading then. Where did you graduate from? Anyplace with nearly the distinction of UC Berkeley? Or DID you graduate? BSME 1993 Purdue University (I took the EIT...does that make me an "engineer"?) Uh, no, it makes you an EIT. DDS 1999 Indiana University School of Dentistry. *You* decide if Purdue's Mechanical Engineering program qualifies as "near the distinction" of Berkeley. Purdue is a fine school. I have a fellow engineer who is a Purdue grad. He also took grad classes at Berkeley. Why? better classes for his particular interests. Now, please show how Purdue is a better school than Berkeley. Besides that it has more conservatives? When I attended Purdue, US News ranked the ME program 3rd in the country. A survey of deans of the Engineering schools across the country currently ranks it 7...but corporate recruiters currently ranks it 3rd. And Indiana U. is not even in the running! I didn't know you could compare IU's dental program with Berkeley's...since Berkeley doesn't have one. Nevertheless, all of the rankings I've seen of dental schools puts IU in the top 10. |
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"Jim" wrote in message
news:%I9Ya.81493$YN5.59913@sccrnsc01... NOYB you better watch it. You confuse these guys when you present them with facts. From reading your posts you'd have a hard time recognizing a fact from a quip. |
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I was responding to Harry's post that gave no explanation of what his
rankings mean...so I guess we're even. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message thlink.net... Great for Berkeley. However, this report was written by 4 left-wing liberals from Berkeley's Graduate School of Education "Psychology" Program...which ranks 45th in the nation by the way. Ranks 45th in what way? Number of students enrolled? Percentage of successful job placements? Did they compare it to schools whose purpose is equivalent? Some psych programs are primarily aimed at clinical specializations. Others focus more on research. Who ranked Berkeley? I pulled that number from a 2001 US News report on school rankings. I couldn't find the original report, but here's an excerpt from Univ. of Iowa's website (describing Iowa's Psych program): * Psychology, doctoral program: No. 45, tying with Arizona State University, Duke University (department of experimental psychology), the University of Arizona, the University of California-Berkeley (School of Education), the University of Massachusetts-Amherst, the University of Michigan-Ann Arbor, the University of Oregon and the University of Pittsburgh-Main Campus (2001 ranking). Note: This ranking is for the program within the UI College of Liberal Arts and Sciences' department of psychology. Oh well. I guess we can ignore this, since there's no explanation of what the ranking means. |
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"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net... In the context of the post I was responding to, it's irrelevant. You didn't challenge Harry's statistics and rankings, now, did you? Frankly, I forgot about his. For the sake of this discussion, YES, I would like to know how ALL of the rankings are done. I suspect that when this question is answered, it will be seen that the rankings don't serve to support Harry's side or yours. |
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"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net... When I attended Purdue, US News ranked the ME program 3rd in the country. A survey of deans of the Engineering schools across the country currently ranks it 7...but corporate recruiters currently ranks it 3rd. US News? Among the most conservative points of view. Who thinks they'd be purveyors of unvarnished truth when judging anything? |
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"Joe" wrote in message ...
"Jim" wrote in message news:Gl6Ya.78866$Ho3.9903@sccrnsc03... Basskisser: If you are employed as an engineer as you claim, why the majority of your posts to this NG made during normal business hours????? When at home he's probably too busy tending to his plants to post . What an idiotic statement. Purely stupid. Go pull some wire, JoeTechnician. |
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"Bill Cole" wrote in message news:dG7Ya.80731$YN5.59371@sccrnsc01...
You better be careful or he will threaten to beat you into a pulp Idiot drivel. Pure and simple. |
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"Jim" wrote in message news:Gl6Ya.78866$Ho3.9903@sccrnsc03...
Basskisser: If you are employed as an engineer as you claim, why the majority of your posts to this NG made during normal business hours????? Very simple....well, maybe not for some..... As I've stated, in this forum, I'm self employed. I contract work. My choice. I make my own hours. Sometimes, I work from early afternoon, until well into the night. Sometimes, I get up early, and finish up early. All according to MY schedule. |
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"basskisser" wrote in message om... "Jim" wrote in message news:Gl6Ya.78866$Ho3.9903@sccrnsc03... Basskisser: If you are employed as an engineer as you claim, why the majority of your posts to this NG made during normal business hours????? Very simple....well, maybe not for some..... As I've stated, in this forum, I'm self employed. I contract work. My choice. I make my own hours. Sometimes, I work from early afternoon, until well into the night. Sometimes, I get up early, and finish up early. All according to MY schedule. Have you formed your own engineering consulting business with others or are you on your own? |
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On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 19:48:53 GMT, "Jim"
wrote: Have you formed your own engineering consulting business with others or are you on your own? He doesn't hire technicians. Forget about it. |
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Doug Kanter wrote:
"NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... In the context of the post I was responding to, it's irrelevant. You didn't challenge Harry's statistics and rankings, now, did you? Frankly, I forgot about his. For the sake of this discussion, YES, I would like to know how ALL of the rankings are done. I suspect that when this question is answered, it will be seen that the rankings don't serve to support Harry's side or yours. I didn't rank the statistics...the source did: National Rankings & Source Berkeley ranks first nationally in the number of graduate programs in the top 10 in their fields. (97% of Berkeley's programs made the top 10 list.) Ranking from the National Research Council Berkeley ranks first nationally in the number of "distinguished" programs for the scholarship of the faculty [32 programs] Ranking from the National Research Council Awards Held by Faculty Current listed first All-Time listed second American Association for the Advancement of Science Fellows 100 125 American Academy of Arts and Sciences Fellows 216 n/a Fields Medal in Mathematics 2 4 Fulbright Scholars 81 131 Guggenheim Fellows 138 152 Howard Hughes Medical Institute Investigators 9 9 MacArthur Fellows 19 28 National Academy of Education 5 7 National Academy of Engineering 86 101 National Academy of Sciences 122 127 National Medal of Science 16 29 National Poet Laureates 1 1 National Science Foundation Young Investigators Awards 61 88 Nobel Prize 8 18 Polk Award in Journalism 3 3 Pulitzer Prizes 3 5 Sloan Fellows (young researchers) 62 92 Wolf Prizes in agriculture, mathematics, chemistry, physics, medicine and the arts 7 9 -- * * * email sent to will *never* get to me. |
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