It appears that the Bayliner threads get started whenever a guy by the name
of Skipper make some stupid posts about them. He is not making any stupid
Bayliner posts so the name calling is limited to politics. ; ),
"JML" wrote in message
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It's been a while since I checked out this newsgroup . . . But I just
noticed that there isn't a single thread of Bayliner bashing in this
Newsgroup right now. Did everybody simply get tired? Is everybody out
boating instead? Hmmm . . .

Just wanted share a story . . . I recently had the opportunity to spend a
day with a very talented surveyor (he's surveyed cruise yachts and
research
vessels). We spent an entire day hammering, tapping, inspecting, scoping,
and all that surveying jazz on a late-model Tiara. By the time he got done
inspecting the hull, he had drawn up more red marks on the hull of this
boat
than my term papers high school. He drew up D's for delams and V's for
voids
and lines and circles to show the extent of all the D's and V's. I almost
feinted because I thought that the deal for this boat was as good as done
prior to the survey. It was after all, a Tiara.

The surveyor told me that he's seen this type of structural flaws on even
Cabos and Vikings. He didn't think that this type of delaminations and
voids
in the gel coat could be the result of any accident but rather came out of
the factory this way. Then I asked him, "Well, if a Tiara can come out of
the factory this way, what chances does a boat like Bayliner have?"

He smiled and told me that he has surveyed old Bayliners that didn't have
a
single flaw in the hull. He also told me that he surveyed one of those
large
Bayliner "Yachts" for a friend who actually ended up purchasing it. This
recent dialogue also made me think of 18 year old Bayliner in my marina
that
REALLY does look great. At this rate, that boat will be in that same slip
for another 18 years . . .

Hey, I'm not going to tell anybody that I would rather be chillin' out in
a
Bayliner instead of a Bertram but I am now a firm believer in the fact
that
in boating, a close and thorough survey of the boat is much more important
than brand names, urban legends, and the many humorous and at times
informative rantings that are found on this newsgroup. I hope that this
info
can be of some help to newbies out there . . .

J