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It's probably one of the few things driving sales of those vehicles. Bush
would be spanked by Detroit's lobbyists if he didn't veto a bill which eliminated the tax incentive. "Juan Valdez" wrote in message ... Paul, One of the problems with Hummers is there is a tax incentive for small businessmen to buy a Hummer for the tax write off. This should be corrected. "P. Fritz" wrote in message ... "PocoLoco" wrote in message ... On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:52:18 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Speaking of status symbols, I was just at the barber shop, browsing a car magazine. Lincoln's selling what they call a "luxury pickup truck". Someone ought to be shot for that. You *know* they're not going to bought by bricklayers & carpenters who are gonna beat the crap out of them. That leaves.....well...you know who. You've never taken your Cadillac Escalade offroading into the woods and swamps? Why pay 22,000 for an F150 when you can pay 40,000 for the Lincoln pickup? In this case, we are in total agreement. But look at all the dumb ****s that bought Hummers. I wonder how many have ever left the pavement. But it is THEIR choice.......I hope you don't prefer the guvmint dictate what they buy. -- John H. On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD |
John,
My guess is he only changed 3 words in his Guzzi "Desmo cut and paste. Like Harry when caught he pretends he doesn't read the posts. Maybe you are in his "bozo bin". ; ) "PocoLoco" wrote in message ... On 23 Aug 2005 11:18:26 -0700, wrote: Bill McKee wrote: Prius on a good day makes 45 mpg. That is nice, but the only ones who are beating the 45 mpg max are the "hot rodders" who are stuffing more batteries in and adding the "plug in hybrid" capability. Long highway trip, you will get about 30 on a hybrid. Very little braking, slowing down, etc that is recovered as stored energy. The around town and short stop and go trips are the most efficient use. The plug in modifiers get the advantage of the extra battery capacity and plug in to the house charging. Up until a couple of years ago, that voided the hybrids warrantee. As usual, dead wrong again!!! See he http://randyrathbun.org/prius/prius_mileage/ Then this: After driving Diesel Volkswagens for 25 years, we have moved into a new era. We are now driving a 2002 Toyota Prius hybrid car. So far, we can report that driving the Prius is remarkable for being so unremarkable -- it feels very much like any other Toyota with an automatic transmission, only better because the transmission is in effect continuously variable. A computerized control system moves energy between the gasoline engine, the electric motors, the battery, and the wheels; if it weren't for the readout on the dash, we probably wouldn't notice most of the optimizations that it performs. Toyota Prius dash and shift lever Toyota Prius mileage computer Especially in winter driving, we found that mileage is much better once the engine is warmed up; the warmup is much faster when temperatures are higher. In the pictures above, we had just completed a trip of about 35 minutes duration in 55 degree weather (clicking on either picture will display a larger version). The mileage was relatively poor in the first 10 minutes (the first five are not shown), then steadily improved during highway driving to more than 50 mpg. The final 10 minutes show very high efficiency in low-speed driving, when the Prius can shut off its gasoline engine much of the time and operate silently in electric mode using stored energy from the battery. For this reason, city mileage really is often better than highway mileage. And this that shows an average of 48.2 mpg: http://www.greenhybrid.com/compare/m.../car/1089.html And this, showing virtually the same mileage: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/16705.shtml Well, if posting all these URL's is supportive of your position, perhaps you could post the URL for your Guzzi "Desmo" site! The big question is, "How many words did you change in your cut'n'paste?" -- John H. On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD |
Doug,
Yes he should have. Now why didn't Clinton veto the tax write off when he was in office. They both should be hung by their thumbs. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... It's probably one of the few things driving sales of those vehicles. Bush would be spanked by Detroit's lobbyists if he didn't veto a bill which eliminated the tax incentive. "Juan Valdez" wrote in message ... Paul, One of the problems with Hummers is there is a tax incentive for small businessmen to buy a Hummer for the tax write off. This should be corrected. "P. Fritz" wrote in message ... "PocoLoco" wrote in message ... On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:52:18 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Speaking of status symbols, I was just at the barber shop, browsing a car magazine. Lincoln's selling what they call a "luxury pickup truck". Someone ought to be shot for that. You *know* they're not going to bought by bricklayers & carpenters who are gonna beat the crap out of them. That leaves.....well...you know who. You've never taken your Cadillac Escalade offroading into the woods and swamps? Why pay 22,000 for an F150 when you can pay 40,000 for the Lincoln pickup? In this case, we are in total agreement. But look at all the dumb ****s that bought Hummers. I wonder how many have ever left the pavement. But it is THEIR choice.......I hope you don't prefer the guvmint dictate what they buy. -- John H. On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD |
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 15:20:55 -0400, "Juan Valdez"
wrote: John, My guess is he only changed 3 words in his Guzzi "Desmo cut and paste. Like Harry when caught he pretends he doesn't read the posts. Maybe you are in his "bozo bin". ; ) Actually I think he added a line. But you're right, he'll never admit his 'error'. -- John H. On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD |
I have no idea. I wasn't aware of the tax situation back then.
"Juan Valdez" wrote in message ... Doug, Yes he should have. Now why didn't Clinton veto the tax write off when he was in office. They both should be hung by their thumbs. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... It's probably one of the few things driving sales of those vehicles. Bush would be spanked by Detroit's lobbyists if he didn't veto a bill which eliminated the tax incentive. "Juan Valdez" wrote in message ... Paul, One of the problems with Hummers is there is a tax incentive for small businessmen to buy a Hummer for the tax write off. This should be corrected. "P. Fritz" wrote in message ... "PocoLoco" wrote in message ... On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:52:18 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Speaking of status symbols, I was just at the barber shop, browsing a car magazine. Lincoln's selling what they call a "luxury pickup truck". Someone ought to be shot for that. You *know* they're not going to bought by bricklayers & carpenters who are gonna beat the crap out of them. That leaves.....well...you know who. You've never taken your Cadillac Escalade offroading into the woods and swamps? Why pay 22,000 for an F150 when you can pay 40,000 for the Lincoln pickup? In this case, we are in total agreement. But look at all the dumb ****s that bought Hummers. I wonder how many have ever left the pavement. But it is THEIR choice.......I hope you don't prefer the guvmint dictate what they buy. -- John H. On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD |
Doug,
My guess is the reason you didn't "hear" about it was because it was your guy who was allowing the tax incentive. It has been a silly counter productive tax incentive for many years before Bush became president. Now that Bush has not overturned the tax incentive, it makes for good political fodder. If you really want to make improvements in our system, you need to be just as critical when it is your guy in office. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... I have no idea. I wasn't aware of the tax situation back then. "Juan Valdez" wrote in message ... Doug, Yes he should have. Now why didn't Clinton veto the tax write off when he was in office. They both should be hung by their thumbs. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... It's probably one of the few things driving sales of those vehicles. Bush would be spanked by Detroit's lobbyists if he didn't veto a bill which eliminated the tax incentive. "Juan Valdez" wrote in message ... Paul, One of the problems with Hummers is there is a tax incentive for small businessmen to buy a Hummer for the tax write off. This should be corrected. "P. Fritz" wrote in message ... "PocoLoco" wrote in message ... On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:52:18 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Speaking of status symbols, I was just at the barber shop, browsing a car magazine. Lincoln's selling what they call a "luxury pickup truck". Someone ought to be shot for that. You *know* they're not going to bought by bricklayers & carpenters who are gonna beat the crap out of them. That leaves.....well...you know who. You've never taken your Cadillac Escalade offroading into the woods and swamps? Why pay 22,000 for an F150 when you can pay 40,000 for the Lincoln pickup? In this case, we are in total agreement. But look at all the dumb ****s that bought Hummers. I wonder how many have ever left the pavement. But it is THEIR choice.......I hope you don't prefer the guvmint dictate what they buy. -- John H. On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD |
Wow. So...if I approve of a politician, I become blind when I read the
newspaper? This is amazing. "Juan Valdez" wrote in message ... Doug, My guess is the reason you didn't "hear" about it was because it was your guy who was allowing the tax incentive. It has been a silly counter productive tax incentive for many years before Bush became president. Now that Bush has not overturned the tax incentive, it makes for good political fodder. If you really want to make improvements in our system, you need to be just as critical when it is your guy in office. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... I have no idea. I wasn't aware of the tax situation back then. "Juan Valdez" wrote in message ... Doug, Yes he should have. Now why didn't Clinton veto the tax write off when he was in office. They both should be hung by their thumbs. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... It's probably one of the few things driving sales of those vehicles. Bush would be spanked by Detroit's lobbyists if he didn't veto a bill which eliminated the tax incentive. "Juan Valdez" wrote in message ... Paul, One of the problems with Hummers is there is a tax incentive for small businessmen to buy a Hummer for the tax write off. This should be corrected. "P. Fritz" wrote in message ... "PocoLoco" wrote in message ... On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:52:18 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Speaking of status symbols, I was just at the barber shop, browsing a car magazine. Lincoln's selling what they call a "luxury pickup truck". Someone ought to be shot for that. You *know* they're not going to bought by bricklayers & carpenters who are gonna beat the crap out of them. That leaves.....well...you know who. You've never taken your Cadillac Escalade offroading into the woods and swamps? Why pay 22,000 for an F150 when you can pay 40,000 for the Lincoln pickup? In this case, we are in total agreement. But look at all the dumb ****s that bought Hummers. I wonder how many have ever left the pavement. But it is THEIR choice.......I hope you don't prefer the guvmint dictate what they buy. -- John H. On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD |
wrote in message ups.com... Harry Krause wrote: Regular grade gasoline was $3.05 a gallon yesterday at several docks in Annapolis. Diesel was $2.61 to $2.65. Thanks, Dubya. It's a real stretch to try to blame George Bush for five decades of over consumption, five decades of refusal to seriously pursue alternative energy sources, five decades of ass-kissing BIG OIL and THE BIG THREE automakers. Amen Chuck. I am so tired of hearing the left blaming Bush for this. |
Doug,
Yes, if you did not know about the tax loophole when Clinton was in office, then you were blind. It was discussed for years before Bush took office. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... Wow. So...if I approve of a politician, I become blind when I read the newspaper? This is amazing. "Juan Valdez" wrote in message ... Doug, My guess is the reason you didn't "hear" about it was because it was your guy who was allowing the tax incentive. It has been a silly counter productive tax incentive for many years before Bush became president. Now that Bush has not overturned the tax incentive, it makes for good political fodder. If you really want to make improvements in our system, you need to be just as critical when it is your guy in office. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... I have no idea. I wasn't aware of the tax situation back then. "Juan Valdez" wrote in message ... Doug, Yes he should have. Now why didn't Clinton veto the tax write off when he was in office. They both should be hung by their thumbs. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... It's probably one of the few things driving sales of those vehicles. Bush would be spanked by Detroit's lobbyists if he didn't veto a bill which eliminated the tax incentive. "Juan Valdez" wrote in message ... Paul, One of the problems with Hummers is there is a tax incentive for small businessmen to buy a Hummer for the tax write off. This should be corrected. "P. Fritz" wrote in message ... "PocoLoco" wrote in message ... On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:52:18 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Speaking of status symbols, I was just at the barber shop, browsing a car magazine. Lincoln's selling what they call a "luxury pickup truck". Someone ought to be shot for that. You *know* they're not going to bought by bricklayers & carpenters who are gonna beat the crap out of them. That leaves.....well...you know who. You've never taken your Cadillac Escalade offroading into the woods and swamps? Why pay 22,000 for an F150 when you can pay 40,000 for the Lincoln pickup? In this case, we are in total agreement. But look at all the dumb ****s that bought Hummers. I wonder how many have ever left the pavement. But it is THEIR choice.......I hope you don't prefer the guvmint dictate what they buy. -- John H. On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD |
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