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P. Fritz wrote:

Noted is how doug ran from the draft question..........only liebrals
in
congress have been calling for a draft.

Another idiotic, fact free statement from Fritz!!! Here's the truth,
Fritz, taking for account that you can comprehend anything:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.3598:

That comes up blank for me, at least in Netscape. Wanna summarize it?

It's a bill that calls for mandatory military *training* and *education*
for all males aged 18-22. There is no provision in the bill to transfer
a trainee to active duty and ship him over seas...although there is a
provision to complete the training in a "national service program".

It's hardly a "draft".

http://tinyurl.com/c4x3f


It should be defeated on its face. Mandatory "military" training indeed,
and only for males? B.S.

The IDF has mandatory duty requirements...as does Belarus, Brazil, Bulgaria,
China, Croatia, Cypress, Egypt, Finland, Germany, Greece, Lebanon, Malaysia,
Mexico, Norway, Poland, Romania, Russia, Singapore, South Korea, Sweden,
Switzerland, Taiwan, Turkey, Ukraine, and Venezuela.

This bill isn't calling for draftees to enter active duty. Instead, it's
calling for mandatory military training and education, so that we're ready
on a moments notice if a draft becomes necessary. I don't necessarily
support it, because I don't think it's needed at the moment. However, as we
continue to head further down this collision course we're on with China, it
might become prudent and necessary.

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P. Fritz wrote:

Noted is how doug ran from the draft question..........only
liebrals in
congress have been calling for a draft.

Another idiotic, fact free statement from Fritz!!! Here's the truth,
Fritz, taking for account that you can comprehend anything:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.3598:

That comes up blank for me, at least in Netscape. Wanna summarize it?

It's a bill that calls for mandatory military *training* and *education*
for all males aged 18-22. There is no provision in the bill to transfer
a trainee to active duty and ship him over seas...although there is a
provision to complete the training in a "national service program".

It's hardly a "draft".

http://tinyurl.com/c4x3f


It should be defeated on its face. Mandatory "military" training indeed,
and only for males? B.S.

The IDF has mandatory duty requirements...as does Belarus, Brazil,
Bulgaria, China, Croatia, Cypress, Egypt, Finland, Germany, Greece,
Lebanon, Malaysia, Mexico, Norway, Poland, Romania, Russia, Singapore,
South Korea, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, Turkey, Ukraine, and Venezuela.

This bill isn't calling for draftees to enter active duty. Instead, it's
calling for mandatory military training and education, so that we're ready
on a moments notice if a draft becomes necessary. I don't necessarily
support it, because I don't think it's needed at the moment. However, as
we continue to head further down this collision course we're on with
China, it might become prudent and necessary.


Would you support the idea of no exclusions for *any* reason, including
physical handicaps, college, etc? Handcuffs for parents who try to arrange
exceptions, same thing that sometimes happens if you hand a traffic cop a
$20.

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P. Fritz wrote:

Noted is how doug ran from the draft question..........only
liebrals in
congress have been calling for a draft.

Another idiotic, fact free statement from Fritz!!! Here's the truth,
Fritz, taking for account that you can comprehend anything:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.3598:

That comes up blank for me, at least in Netscape. Wanna summarize it?

It's a bill that calls for mandatory military *training* and
*education* for all males aged 18-22. There is no provision in the
bill to transfer a trainee to active duty and ship him over
seas...although there is a provision to complete the training in a
"national service program".

It's hardly a "draft".

http://tinyurl.com/c4x3f


It should be defeated on its face. Mandatory "military" training indeed,
and only for males? B.S.

The IDF has mandatory duty requirements...as does Belarus, Brazil,
Bulgaria, China, Croatia, Cypress, Egypt, Finland, Germany, Greece,
Lebanon, Malaysia, Mexico, Norway, Poland, Romania, Russia, Singapore,
South Korea, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, Turkey, Ukraine, and Venezuela.

This bill isn't calling for draftees to enter active duty. Instead, it's
calling for mandatory military training and education, so that we're
ready on a moments notice if a draft becomes necessary. I don't
necessarily support it, because I don't think it's needed at the moment.
However, as we continue to head further down this collision course we're
on with China, it might become prudent and necessary.


Would you support the idea of no exclusions for *any* reason, including
physical handicaps, college, etc?

No. All of the aforementioned countries have exceptions...as should we.

Handcuffs for parents who try to arrange exceptions, same thing that
sometimes happens if you hand a traffic cop a $20.

The cops down here require a couple hundred.

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P. Fritz wrote:

Noted is how doug ran from the draft question..........only
liebrals in
congress have been calling for a draft.

Another idiotic, fact free statement from Fritz!!! Here's the
truth,
Fritz, taking for account that you can comprehend anything:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.3598:

That comes up blank for me, at least in Netscape. Wanna summarize
it?

It's a bill that calls for mandatory military *training* and
*education* for all males aged 18-22. There is no provision in the
bill to transfer a trainee to active duty and ship him over
seas...although there is a provision to complete the training in a
"national service program".

It's hardly a "draft".

http://tinyurl.com/c4x3f


It should be defeated on its face. Mandatory "military" training
indeed,
and only for males? B.S.

The IDF has mandatory duty requirements...as does Belarus, Brazil,
Bulgaria, China, Croatia, Cypress, Egypt, Finland, Germany, Greece,
Lebanon, Malaysia, Mexico, Norway, Poland, Romania, Russia, Singapore,
South Korea, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, Turkey, Ukraine, and
Venezuela.

This bill isn't calling for draftees to enter active duty. Instead,
it's
calling for mandatory military training and education, so that we're
ready on a moments notice if a draft becomes necessary. I don't
necessarily support it, because I don't think it's needed at the
moment.
However, as we continue to head further down this collision course
we're
on with China, it might become prudent and necessary.


Would you support the idea of no exclusions for *any* reason, including
physical handicaps, college, etc?

No. All of the aforementioned countries have exceptions...as should we.

Handcuffs for parents who try to arrange exceptions, same thing that
sometimes happens if you hand a traffic cop a $20.

The cops down here require a couple hundred.

And of course, you are talking about a 4 year old bill with one co-sponsor,
introduced during the 9-11 hysteria, that has gone absolutely nowhere.

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P. Fritz wrote:

Noted is how doug ran from the draft question..........only
liebrals in
congress have been calling for a draft.

Another idiotic, fact free statement from Fritz!!! Here's the truth,
Fritz, taking for account that you can comprehend anything:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.3598:

That comes up blank for me, at least in Netscape. Wanna summarize it?

It's a bill that calls for mandatory military *training* and
*education* for all males aged 18-22. There is no provision in the
bill to transfer a trainee to active duty and ship him over
seas...although there is a provision to complete the training in a
"national service program".

It's hardly a "draft".

http://tinyurl.com/c4x3f


It should be defeated on its face. Mandatory "military" training
indeed, and only for males? B.S.

The IDF has mandatory duty requirements...as does Belarus, Brazil,
Bulgaria, China, Croatia, Cypress, Egypt, Finland, Germany, Greece,
Lebanon, Malaysia, Mexico, Norway, Poland, Romania, Russia, Singapore,
South Korea, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, Turkey, Ukraine, and
Venezuela.

This bill isn't calling for draftees to enter active duty. Instead,
it's calling for mandatory military training and education, so that
we're ready on a moments notice if a draft becomes necessary. I don't
necessarily support it, because I don't think it's needed at the moment.
However, as we continue to head further down this collision course we're
on with China, it might become prudent and necessary.


Would you support the idea of no exclusions for *any* reason, including
physical handicaps, college, etc?

No. All of the aforementioned countries have exceptions...as should we.

No. It's too easy for rich parents to stick their kid in grad school, while
a poor kid might not get that opportunity. As far as physical handicaps, the
military contains just about every type of job that exists for civilians. If
you can work outside the military, you can work within it.

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P. Fritz wrote:

Noted is how doug ran from the draft question..........only
liebrals in
congress have been calling for a draft.

Another idiotic, fact free statement from Fritz!!! Here's the
truth,
Fritz, taking for account that you can comprehend anything:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.3598:

That comes up blank for me, at least in Netscape. Wanna summarize
it?

It's a bill that calls for mandatory military *training* and
*education* for all males aged 18-22. There is no provision in the
bill to transfer a trainee to active duty and ship him over
seas...although there is a provision to complete the training in a
"national service program".

It's hardly a "draft".

http://tinyurl.com/c4x3f


It should be defeated on its face. Mandatory "military" training
indeed, and only for males? B.S.

The IDF has mandatory duty requirements...as does Belarus, Brazil,
Bulgaria, China, Croatia, Cypress, Egypt, Finland, Germany, Greece,
Lebanon, Malaysia, Mexico, Norway, Poland, Romania, Russia, Singapore,
South Korea, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, Turkey, Ukraine, and
Venezuela.

This bill isn't calling for draftees to enter active duty. Instead,
it's calling for mandatory military training and education, so that
we're ready on a moments notice if a draft becomes necessary. I don't
necessarily support it, because I don't think it's needed at the
moment. However, as we continue to head further down this collision
course we're on with China, it might become prudent and necessary.


Would you support the idea of no exclusions for *any* reason, including
physical handicaps, college, etc?

No. All of the aforementioned countries have exceptions...as should we.

No. It's too easy for rich parents to stick their kid in grad school,
while a poor kid might not get that opportunity.

Baloney. My parents weren't poor nor rich. But I paid for my own "grad
school" through loans.


As far as physical handicaps, the
military contains just about every type of job that exists for civilians.
If you can work outside the military, you can work within it.

I guess that depends on the severity of the handicap, doesn't it? There are
all sorts of people who don't work in the civilian world due to physical
and/or mental handicaps.

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As far as physical handicaps, the
military contains just about every type of job that exists for civilians.
If you can work outside the military, you can work within it.

I guess that depends on the severity of the handicap, doesn't it? There
are all sorts of people who don't work in the civilian world due to
physical and/or mental handicaps.

Gee whiz - I guess it does, but we're not talking about extremes here, like
someone who spends their days strapped in a wheelchair with severe CP. We're
talking about things that someone can point to and say "It hurts if I lift
too much sometimes".

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:27:53 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


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P. Fritz wrote:

Noted is how doug ran from the draft question..........only
liebrals in
congress have been calling for a draft.

Another idiotic, fact free statement from Fritz!!! Here's the truth,
Fritz, taking for account that you can comprehend anything:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.3598:

That comes up blank for me, at least in Netscape. Wanna summarize it?

It's a bill that calls for mandatory military *training* and
*education* for all males aged 18-22. There is no provision in the
bill to transfer a trainee to active duty and ship him over
seas...although there is a provision to complete the training in a
"national service program".

It's hardly a "draft".

http://tinyurl.com/c4x3f


It should be defeated on its face. Mandatory "military" training
indeed, and only for males? B.S.

The IDF has mandatory duty requirements...as does Belarus, Brazil,
Bulgaria, China, Croatia, Cypress, Egypt, Finland, Germany, Greece,
Lebanon, Malaysia, Mexico, Norway, Poland, Romania, Russia, Singapore,
South Korea, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, Turkey, Ukraine, and
Venezuela.

This bill isn't calling for draftees to enter active duty. Instead,
it's calling for mandatory military training and education, so that
we're ready on a moments notice if a draft becomes necessary. I don't
necessarily support it, because I don't think it's needed at the moment.
However, as we continue to head further down this collision course we're
on with China, it might become prudent and necessary.


Would you support the idea of no exclusions for *any* reason, including
physical handicaps, college, etc?

No. All of the aforementioned countries have exceptions...as should we.

No. It's too easy for rich parents to stick their kid in grad school, while
a poor kid might not get that opportunity. As far as physical handicaps, the
military contains just about every type of job that exists for civilians. If
you can work outside the military, you can work within it.


Doug, although there are multitudinous specialties within the Army, every
soldier has a basic mission, to engage the enemy. If a person can't run, carry
and shoot a rifle, dig a defensive position, etc., then that person shouldn't be
in the Army.

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

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P. Fritz wrote:

Noted is how doug ran from the draft question..........only
liebrals in
congress have been calling for a draft.

Another idiotic, fact free statement from Fritz!!! Here's the
truth,
Fritz, taking for account that you can comprehend anything:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.3598:

That comes up blank for me, at least in Netscape. Wanna summarize
it?

It's a bill that calls for mandatory military *training* and
*education* for all males aged 18-22. There is no provision in the
bill to transfer a trainee to active duty and ship him over
seas...although there is a provision to complete the training in a
"national service program".

It's hardly a "draft".

http://tinyurl.com/c4x3f


It should be defeated on its face. Mandatory "military" training
indeed, and only for males? B.S.

The IDF has mandatory duty requirements...as does Belarus, Brazil,
Bulgaria, China, Croatia, Cypress, Egypt, Finland, Germany, Greece,
Lebanon, Malaysia, Mexico, Norway, Poland, Romania, Russia, Singapore,
South Korea, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, Turkey, Ukraine, and
Venezuela.

This bill isn't calling for draftees to enter active duty. Instead,
it's calling for mandatory military training and education, so that
we're ready on a moments notice if a draft becomes necessary. I don't
necessarily support it, because I don't think it's needed at the
moment.
However, as we continue to head further down this collision course
we're
on with China, it might become prudent and necessary.


Would you support the idea of no exclusions for *any* reason, including
physical handicaps, college, etc?

No. All of the aforementioned countries have exceptions...as should we.

No. It's too easy for rich parents to stick their kid in grad school,
while
a poor kid might not get that opportunity. As far as physical handicaps,
the
military contains just about every type of job that exists for civilians.
If
you can work outside the military, you can work within it.


Doug, although there are multitudinous specialties within the Army, every
soldier has a basic mission, to engage the enemy. If a person can't run,
carry
and shoot a rifle, dig a defensive position, etc., then that person
shouldn't be
in the Army.

Rigid theories have no place outside of one's own home.