Hi folks,

I have a few questions.

How much does an ocean going motoryacht cost? Something that will take you
from Boston to London. Is a ballpark number possible for
such a motoryacht? Is it 500K, 5 mil or somewhere in between?

Does such a motoryacht require a crew?

I did some google searches but could not find an answer. Probably not asking
the right questions.

thanks in advance
TF

Go to Yachtworld.com and run a search for some 50-foot Krogens. IMO, that
represents the minimum type of vessel that one should consider for transoceanic
crossings in a powerboat. Pricing will be evident.

When conditions are favorable or ideal, a smaller boat would suffice, but don't
count on conditions always being ideal or favorable.

One of the mfgrs just did a circumnavigation in a 40-foot trawler, and admitted
it was something of a stunt.

Yeah, yeah, you're going to hear about the guys who went from LeHavre to Nassau
on a tea crate, etc.......but just because some other fool went over Niagara
Falls in a barrel doesn't mean everybody with an empty barrel should try their
luck.

On Thursday 20 May 2004 3:02 am in rec.boats TF wrote:

Hi folks,

I have a few questions.

How much does an ocean going motoryacht cost? Something that will take you
from Boston to London. Is a ballpark number possible for
such a motoryacht? Is it 500K, 5 mil or somewhere in between?

Does such a motoryacht require a crew?

I did some google searches but could not find an answer. Probably not
asking the right questions.

You need a large displacement or semi-displacement yacht to carry
enough fuel for over 3000nm. This is going to be at least a 75 foot
boat, more likely 85 or more depending on choices.

Anything over 23 metres requires a professionally qualified crew, the
longer and heavier the boat the more and better qualified crew needed.

The Trader 85, for example, would cost about UKP 2 million +/- a lot
of custom build options.

In reality you are going to need at least 4 people to handle a large
boat and maintain a proper shift of watches.


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On Thursday 20 May 2004 3:02 am in rec.boats TF wrote:
Hi folks,

I have a few questions.

How much does an ocean going motoryacht cost? Something that will take you
from Boston to London. Is a ballpark number possible for
such a motoryacht? Is it 500K, 5 mil or somewhere in between?

Depends on how crafty you are. You could put together a passagemaking
motorboat for much less, but obviously the comforts are the first thing
to go if you scrimp to gain ocean crossing capability.


Does such a motoryacht require a crew?

Nope. But you'd probably be better off with one.


I did some google searches but could not find an answer. Probably not
asking the right questions.


Chris Newport wrote:
You need a large displacement or semi-displacement yacht to carry
enough fuel for over 3000nm. This is going to be at least a 75 foot
boat, more likely 85 or more depending on choices.

??!? Oh c'mon, a forty footer made a circumnavigation. It would be
easily possible to install the fuel tanks to get that much range on many
35 footers. In this case however IMHO bigger is better. Some decades ago
I crossed the ocean a couple times on a U.S. Navy destroyer... and
decided it would be better to take an aircraft carrier...

But you're right that no planing craft is going to have anything close
to the range required... doesn't that make a statement about planing vs
fuel efficiency?


In reality you are going to need at least 4 people to handle a large
boat and maintain a proper shift of watches.

An important point. Autopilots & radar alarms are a given, but there
needs to be a qualified person awake & alert on the bridge.

Fair Skies
Doug King

On Thursday 20 May 2004 11:57 am in rec.boats DSK wrote:

On Thursday 20 May 2004 3:02 am in rec.boats TF wrote:

How much does an ocean going motoryacht cost? Something that will take
you from Boston to London. Is a ballpark number possible for
such a motoryacht? Is it 500K, 5 mil or somewhere in between?

Chris Newport wrote:
You need a large displacement or semi-displacement yacht to carry
enough fuel for over 3000nm. This is going to be at least a 75 foot
boat, more likely 85 or more depending on choices.

??!? Oh c'mon, a forty footer made a circumnavigation. It would be
easily possible to install the fuel tanks to get that much range on many
35 footers. In this case however IMHO bigger is better.

It is possible to do a circumnavigation in hops of less than 1500nm,
for example the atlantic can be crossed via Bermuda and the Azores
or Greenland and Iceland.
The original question implied a direct Boston - UK nonstop crossing
which is rather a different question. The fuel required is rather
too heavy for a small boat B-).

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On Thu, 20 May 2004 12:39:21 +0100, Chris Newport
wrote:

It is possible to do a circumnavigation in hops of less than 1500nm,
for example the atlantic can be crossed via Bermuda and the Azores
or Greenland and Iceland.
=============================

It turns out that there are 18 trawlers going trans atlantic as we
speak. They left Ft Lauderdale earlier in the week and are crossing
by way of Bermuda and the Azores. The longest leg is Bermuda to the
Azores at about 1800 NM.

Here's some info on requirements:

http://lists.samurai.com/pipermail/t...ry/000012.html

Here's a discussion by a fellow that's done it:

http://www.trawlerworld.com/qu_1999_11_2.htm

On Thursday 20 May 2004 3:05 pm in rec.boats Wayne.B wrote:


It turns out that there are 18 trawlers going trans atlantic as we
speak. They left Ft Lauderdale earlier in the week and are crossing
by way of Bermuda and the Azores. The longest leg is Bermuda to the
Azores at about 1800 NM.

Very interesting - it seems that Nordhavns are rather popular in
the USA, they are in the process of opening a sales office in the UK
so I will pay them a visit at the Southampton show,

The northern route is shorter, but more prone to bad weather and
certainly colder than the Azores route.


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"TF" wrote in message
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Hi folks,

I have a few questions.

How much does an ocean going motoryacht cost? Something that will take you
from Boston to London. Is a ballpark number possible for
such a motoryacht? Is it 500K, 5 mil or somewhere in between?

Does such a motoryacht require a crew?

I did some google searches but could not find an answer. Probably not
asking
the right questions.

thanks in advance
TF