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NOYB May 25th 04 07:18 PM

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What positive contributions have the Arab nations made to

society
in
the
last 100 years?

WTF??

Are you still on the "let's launch a holy crusade to

exterminate
the
Arabs" kick?

Let's assume, for a moment, that Arabs have not made any
'contributions
to society' in the past 100 years. Does that justify a war

against
any
or all Arab and/or Muslim nations?


My comment was in reponse to the statement that all Arab nations

hate
us.
Essentially, I'm saying "who cares"...they're irrelevant in the

whole
scheme
of things...unless of course they attack us. Only *then* do

they
become
relevant...and then I *do* say that their lack of contributions

to
society
should be considered when we're deciding just how many kiloton

nuke
we
should drop on 'em.

Then where would the oil that you republicans want us dependent on
going to come from?

Oil is unaffected by nukes. It'll still be there...only with

nothing
in
the
way between it and us.



You can't get rid of nuclear contamination with dental floss. Would

you
send
your kids into a hot zone as employees of Exxon?


Do you mean before or after we dropped nukes?



After, dummy. You said oil is unaffected, which implies we could still go
get it. If not your kids, who would you expect to do that job?


The Guantanamo detainees.



P.Fritz May 25th 04 07:20 PM

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What positive contributions have the Arab nations made to
society
in
the
last 100 years?

WTF??

Are you still on the "let's launch a holy crusade to

exterminate
the
Arabs" kick?

Let's assume, for a moment, that Arabs have not made any
'contributions
to society' in the past 100 years. Does that justify a war

against
any
or all Arab and/or Muslim nations?


My comment was in reponse to the statement that all Arab

nations
hate
us.
Essentially, I'm saying "who cares"...they're irrelevant in

the
whole
scheme
of things...unless of course they attack us. Only *then* do

they
become
relevant...and then I *do* say that their lack of

contributions
to
society
should be considered when we're deciding just how many kiloton

nuke
we
should drop on 'em.

Then where would the oil that you republicans want us dependent

on
going to come from?

Oil is unaffected by nukes. It'll still be there...only with

nothing
in
the
way between it and us.



You can't get rid of nuclear contamination with dental floss. Would

you
send
your kids into a hot zone as employees of Exxon?

Do you mean before or after we dropped nukes?



After, dummy. You said oil is unaffected, which implies we could still

go
get it. If not your kids, who would you expect to do that job?


The Guantanamo detainees.


Nah.....just use some neutron bombs ........y6ou probably would not have to
worry about the oil fields being affected.






NOYB May 25th 04 07:21 PM

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You're stuck on the subject of what Arabs have done to the

rest
of
the
world

Not "done to", but "done for" the rest of the World. What
positive
contributions have they made?

If *this* country had been sliced up and rearranged into

meaningless
arrangements by foreign powers and a number of wars, you'd

find
that
OUR
contributions would be hindered somewhat. Survival would

become
more
important.


So what you're saying is that you can't list any positive
contributions
to
society from the Arab world in the last 100 years. Isn't that

what
I
said
last week? And what Harry said 2 1/2 years ago...before he

changed
his
mind?

I said nothing of the kind. What I said is true. If a country or

region
is
ravaged by war, or politically manipulated in ways which were not
designed
to benefit the region, it has SOME EFFECT on the ability to

function
in
what
you or I would consider "normal". But, you deny that the Middle

East
has
been touched by us, Europe or Russia over the past 100 years

Oh, give it up. There have been many races, cultures, and nations

which
have been tinkered with by outside influence over the years. Yet,

most
of
those have managed to make significant contributions to society

despite
the
"oppression". Quit making excuses for the Arabs. They've

contributed
zilch
over the last century.



Your attitude has one redeeming quality. You will raise your children

to
think as you do. Therefore, companies like McDonald's and Wendy's will

never
have problems staffing their front counters, and I will be able to get

lunch
quickly.


That's pretty funny, Doug...especially coming from someone who's son was

out
of a job for months on end due to his possessing no positive redeeming
qualities.



What the **** are you talking about? My son's 15. :-) It's illegal in this
state for kids that age to do much of anything except mow lawns.


Sorry, that was the Mark Browne. You liberals all look alike on a computer
monitor.



NOYB May 25th 04 07:23 PM

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So what you're saying is that you can't list any positive

contributions
to
society from the Arab world in the last 100 years.

They're out the

For example,
Chemistry. (Nobel prize winner in 1999 was an Arab)


That's a bit of stretch, don't you think, Chuck? The guy had been

an
instructer at Caltech for 23 years prior to the award. He was more
"American" than Arab. Excluding Arab-Americans, Arab-Europeans,

etc.,
what
positive contributions have Arabs living in Arab nations made to

society
in
the last 100 years?



What contributions would you consider valid ones?


The light bulb, penicillin, the first computer, the internal combustion
engine and the automobile, space travel, airplanes, pre-emptive strikes,

and
supply side economics. ;-)



Hmm. No literature. Not surprising, coming from the court jester.


lit·er·a·ture (ltr--chr, -chr)
n.
1.. The body of written works of a language, period, or culture.
2.. Imaginative or creative writing
I read a lot "imaginary or creative writing" everytime I read yours or
Harry's posts here on rec.boats...or whenever I visit the NY Times or
Washington Post website.














NOYB May 25th 04 07:25 PM

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You're stuck on the subject of what Arabs have done to the

rest
of
the
world

Not "done to", but "done for" the rest of the World. What

positive
contributions have they made?

If *this* country had been sliced up and rearranged into

meaningless
arrangements by foreign powers and a number of wars, you'd find

that
OUR
contributions would be hindered somewhat. Survival would become

more
important.


So what you're saying is that you can't list any positive

contributions
to
society from the Arab world in the last 100 years. Isn't that

what
I
said
last week? And what Harry said 2 1/2 years ago...before he changed

his
mind?

Your liberalism is showing here. If someone's on welfare, it must

be
the
fault of the wealthy. Right? If a a guy's head is severed from

his
body
in
front of a video camera, it's the victim's fault. If the Arabs

haven't
made
one positive contribution to society in the last 100 years, it's

the
fault
of the West.

It's the new dem's campaign strategy......"Blame it on America"

Oh. Another genius who was chokin' his chicken in history class.

Here's
a
yes or no question for you. Do you believe that on the whole, the

countries
of the Middle East have been left pretty much alone for the past 100

years,
and were able to pursue a natural course of development? Yes, or no.


No.

Now a question for you:
What positive contributions have the Arab nations made to society in the
last 100 years? (This isn't the time to lay blame...just list the
contributions).


A series of great books by Naguib Mahfouz.


He used to be center for the Denver Nuggets, right? Then he was traded to
Atlanta, the Nets...and then the Knicks.



Doug Kanter May 25th 04 07:36 PM

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 
"NOYB" wrote in message
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What contributions would you consider valid ones?

The light bulb, penicillin, the first computer, the internal

combustion
engine and the automobile, space travel, airplanes, pre-emptive

strikes,
and
supply side economics. ;-)



Hmm. No literature. Not surprising, coming from the court jester.


lit·er·a·ture (ltr--chr, -chr)
n.
1.. The body of written works of a language, period, or culture.
2.. Imaginative or creative writing
I read a lot "imaginary or creative writing" everytime I read yours or
Harry's posts here on rec.boats...or whenever I visit the NY Times or
Washington Post website.


You also spew gibberish when you're trapped.



NOYB May 25th 04 08:02 PM

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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What contributions would you consider valid ones?

The light bulb, penicillin, the first computer, the internal

combustion
engine and the automobile, space travel, airplanes, pre-emptive

strikes,
and
supply side economics. ;-)



Hmm. No literature. Not surprising, coming from the court jester.


lit·er·a·ture (ltr--chr, -chr)
n.
1.. The body of written works of a language, period, or culture.
2.. Imaginative or creative writing
I read a lot "imaginary or creative writing" everytime I read yours or
Harry's posts here on rec.boats...or whenever I visit the NY Times or
Washington Post website.


You also spew gibberish when you're trapped.


Trapped? By you? Puh-leeze. I asked you to name *one* Arab living in an
Arab country who has made a significant positive contribution to society in
the last 100 years, and the best you came up with is a guy who writes
literature that 99.9999999% of the World has never read. Some impact!



Doug Kanter May 25th 04 08:09 PM

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 

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What contributions would you consider valid ones?

The light bulb, penicillin, the first computer, the internal

combustion
engine and the automobile, space travel, airplanes, pre-emptive

strikes,
and
supply side economics. ;-)



Hmm. No literature. Not surprising, coming from the court jester.

lit·er·a·ture (ltr--chr, -chr)
n.
1.. The body of written works of a language, period, or culture.
2.. Imaginative or creative writing
I read a lot "imaginary or creative writing" everytime I read yours or
Harry's posts here on rec.boats...or whenever I visit the NY Times or
Washington Post website.


You also spew gibberish when you're trapped.


Trapped? By you? Puh-leeze. I asked you to name *one* Arab living in an
Arab country who has made a significant positive contribution to society

in
the last 100 years, and the best you came up with is a guy who writes
literature that 99.9999999% of the World has never read. Some impact!



Source of numbers, please. And, provide an explanation for the author's
presence in American literary critiques on a pretty regular basis.



May 25th 04 08:13 PM

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 
It is really getting bad... NOYB used to be one that one could have a good
and insightful banter with...

Now he has degraded to nothing but a petty crybaby ...

Nuke the middle east, oil won't be affected, send the Guantanamo detainees
to recover the oil...

Here's a hint for you NOYB, Nuclear contamination affects everything.
Granted the oil in ground might not be affected, but once it is brought out
of the ground it will be. It will still be affected when it goes onto the
boat to bring it to the refinery. Still affected when it is processed into
the final form used by the consumer. Still affected as the consumer uses it.

Sure, lets just nuke the middle east and slowly kill everyone in the world
by the hundreds of years of contamination caused.

Lets also not forget the Nuclear Cloud... Where will it land? Will the wind
carry it only over the Arab world? What about the wind shift that carries it
west and dumps it on England.... Carries it further and drops it on New York
City....

Man, suddenly Sept 11, 2001 doesn't seem so bad, after all, there is one in
the right wing that would want to kill-em-all including anyone that just
happens to be in the wrong place years down the road.

"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...

Sorry, that was the Mark Browne. You liberals all look alike on a

computer
monitor.





NOYB May 25th 04 08:43 PM

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 

wrote in message
hlink.net...
It is really getting bad... NOYB used to be one that one could have a good
and insightful banter with...

Now he has degraded to nothing but a petty crybaby ...

Nuke the middle east, oil won't be affected, send the Guantanamo detainees
to recover the oil...

Here's a hint for you NOYB, Nuclear contamination affects everything.
Granted the oil in ground might not be affected, but once it is brought

out
of the ground it will be. It will still be affected when it goes onto the
boat to bring it to the refinery. Still affected when it is processed into
the final form used by the consumer. Still affected as the consumer uses

it.

Sure, lets just nuke the middle east and slowly kill everyone in the world
by the hundreds of years of contamination caused.

Lets also not forget the Nuclear Cloud... Where will it land? Will the

wind
carry it only over the Arab world? What about the wind shift that carries

it
west and dumps it on England.... Carries it further and drops it on New

York
City....

Man, suddenly Sept 11, 2001 doesn't seem so bad, after all, there is one

in
the right wing that would want to kill-em-all including anyone that just
happens to be in the wrong place years down the road.


Here's an excerpt of a very recent newsflash for you:
"an Al Qaeda leader has said 4 million Americans will have to be killed "as
a prerequisite to any Islamic victory."

No thanks. I say do unto others before they do unto you.

Do you want to know the turning point in my opinion? The huge amount of
outrage shown by the World in regard to the Abu Ghraib pictures...compared
to the ho-hum attitude displayed following the Berg decapitation.

Plus, it's more fun playing the Devil's advocate. Boring and low-key
solutions get no attention anyhow.



Doug Kanter May 25th 04 08:48 PM

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...

wrote in message
hlink.net...
It is really getting bad... NOYB used to be one that one could have a

good
and insightful banter with...

Now he has degraded to nothing but a petty crybaby ...

Nuke the middle east, oil won't be affected, send the Guantanamo

detainees
to recover the oil...

Here's a hint for you NOYB, Nuclear contamination affects everything.
Granted the oil in ground might not be affected, but once it is brought

out
of the ground it will be. It will still be affected when it goes onto

the
boat to bring it to the refinery. Still affected when it is processed

into
the final form used by the consumer. Still affected as the consumer uses

it.

Sure, lets just nuke the middle east and slowly kill everyone in the

world
by the hundreds of years of contamination caused.

Lets also not forget the Nuclear Cloud... Where will it land? Will the

wind
carry it only over the Arab world? What about the wind shift that

carries
it
west and dumps it on England.... Carries it further and drops it on New

York
City....

Man, suddenly Sept 11, 2001 doesn't seem so bad, after all, there is one

in
the right wing that would want to kill-em-all including anyone that just
happens to be in the wrong place years down the road.


Here's an excerpt of a very recent newsflash for you:
"an Al Qaeda leader has said 4 million Americans will have to be killed

"as
a prerequisite to any Islamic victory."

No thanks. I say do unto others before they do unto you.

Do you want to know the turning point in my opinion? The huge amount of
outrage shown by the World in regard to the Abu Ghraib pictures...compared
to the ho-hum attitude displayed following the Berg decapitation.

Plus, it's more fun playing the Devil's advocate. Boring and low-key
solutions get no attention anyhow.



OK.....so exporting radioactive oil to this country would somehow solve the
problems of the Middle East?



NOYB May 25th 04 08:51 PM

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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What contributions would you consider valid ones?

The light bulb, penicillin, the first computer, the internal
combustion
engine and the automobile, space travel, airplanes, pre-emptive
strikes,
and
supply side economics. ;-)



Hmm. No literature. Not surprising, coming from the court jester.

lit·er·a·ture (ltr--chr, -chr)
n.
1.. The body of written works of a language, period, or culture.
2.. Imaginative or creative writing
I read a lot "imaginary or creative writing" everytime I read yours

or
Harry's posts here on rec.boats...or whenever I visit the NY Times

or
Washington Post website.

You also spew gibberish when you're trapped.


Trapped? By you? Puh-leeze. I asked you to name *one* Arab living in

an
Arab country who has made a significant positive contribution to society

in
the last 100 years, and the best you came up with is a guy who writes
literature that 99.9999999% of the World has never read. Some impact!



Source of numbers, please. And, provide an explanation for the author's
presence in American literary critiques on a pretty regular basis.


OK, maybe there's a couple of extra "9's" in there.

99.9995% of the World's population...would put the number of Naguib Mahfouz
readers at 1 million. That's beyond generous.




NOYB May 25th 04 09:10 PM

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...

wrote in message
hlink.net...
It is really getting bad... NOYB used to be one that one could have a

good
and insightful banter with...

Now he has degraded to nothing but a petty crybaby ...

Nuke the middle east, oil won't be affected, send the Guantanamo

detainees
to recover the oil...

Here's a hint for you NOYB, Nuclear contamination affects everything.
Granted the oil in ground might not be affected, but once it is

brought
out
of the ground it will be. It will still be affected when it goes onto

the
boat to bring it to the refinery. Still affected when it is processed

into
the final form used by the consumer. Still affected as the consumer

uses
it.

Sure, lets just nuke the middle east and slowly kill everyone in the

world
by the hundreds of years of contamination caused.

Lets also not forget the Nuclear Cloud... Where will it land? Will the

wind
carry it only over the Arab world? What about the wind shift that

carries
it
west and dumps it on England.... Carries it further and drops it on

New
York
City....

Man, suddenly Sept 11, 2001 doesn't seem so bad, after all, there is

one
in
the right wing that would want to kill-em-all including anyone that

just
happens to be in the wrong place years down the road.


Here's an excerpt of a very recent newsflash for you:
"an Al Qaeda leader has said 4 million Americans will have to be killed

"as
a prerequisite to any Islamic victory."

No thanks. I say do unto others before they do unto you.

Do you want to know the turning point in my opinion? The huge amount of
outrage shown by the World in regard to the Abu Ghraib

pictures...compared
to the ho-hum attitude displayed following the Berg decapitation.

Plus, it's more fun playing the Devil's advocate. Boring and low-key
solutions get no attention anyhow.



OK.....so exporting radioactive oil to this country would somehow solve

the
problems of the Middle East?


Of course not. But exporting one way nuke-tipped Tomahawks would.



BTW--Since you and I live in "this country", wouldn't it be more appropriate
to say "importing" radioactive oil to this country?



Doug Kanter May 25th 04 09:32 PM

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 

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What contributions would you consider valid ones?

The light bulb, penicillin, the first computer, the internal
combustion
engine and the automobile, space travel, airplanes,

pre-emptive
strikes,
and
supply side economics. ;-)



Hmm. No literature. Not surprising, coming from the court

jester.

lit·er·a·ture (ltr--chr, -chr)
n.
1.. The body of written works of a language, period, or culture.
2.. Imaginative or creative writing
I read a lot "imaginary or creative writing" everytime I read

yours
or
Harry's posts here on rec.boats...or whenever I visit the NY Times

or
Washington Post website.

You also spew gibberish when you're trapped.

Trapped? By you? Puh-leeze. I asked you to name *one* Arab living

in
an
Arab country who has made a significant positive contribution to

society
in
the last 100 years, and the best you came up with is a guy who writes
literature that 99.9999999% of the World has never read. Some impact!



Source of numbers, please. And, provide an explanation for the author's
presence in American literary critiques on a pretty regular basis.


OK, maybe there's a couple of extra "9's" in there.

99.9995% of the World's population...would put the number of Naguib

Mahfouz
readers at 1 million. That's beyond generous.




Source of numbers, please. How do you know how many books he's sold? Hint:
You're pulling this outta your ass because you're a racist.



NOYB May 25th 04 10:05 PM

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What contributions would you consider valid ones?

The light bulb, penicillin, the first computer, the internal
combustion
engine and the automobile, space travel, airplanes,

pre-emptive
strikes,
and
supply side economics. ;-)



Hmm. No literature. Not surprising, coming from the court

jester.

lit·er·a·ture (ltr--chr, -chr)
n.
1.. The body of written works of a language, period, or

culture.
2.. Imaginative or creative writing
I read a lot "imaginary or creative writing" everytime I read

yours
or
Harry's posts here on rec.boats...or whenever I visit the NY

Times
or
Washington Post website.

You also spew gibberish when you're trapped.

Trapped? By you? Puh-leeze. I asked you to name *one* Arab living

in
an
Arab country who has made a significant positive contribution to

society
in
the last 100 years, and the best you came up with is a guy who

writes
literature that 99.9999999% of the World has never read. Some

impact!



Source of numbers, please. And, provide an explanation for the

author's
presence in American literary critiques on a pretty regular basis.


OK, maybe there's a couple of extra "9's" in there.

99.9995% of the World's population...would put the number of Naguib

Mahfouz
readers at 1 million. That's beyond generous.




Source of numbers, please. How do you know how many books he's sold? Hint:
You're pulling this outta your ass


Yep. Do you have a better estimate?

because you're a racist.


LOL. Racism has zip, zero, and nada to do with it. Nice
"liberal-losing-an-argument" tactic, though.





Doug Kanter May 25th 04 10:14 PM

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"NOYB" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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What contributions would you consider valid ones?

The light bulb, penicillin, the first computer, the

internal
combustion
engine and the automobile, space travel, airplanes,

pre-emptive
strikes,
and
supply side economics. ;-)



Hmm. No literature. Not surprising, coming from the court

jester.

lit·er·a·ture (ltr--chr, -chr)
n.
1.. The body of written works of a language, period, or

culture.
2.. Imaginative or creative writing
I read a lot "imaginary or creative writing" everytime I read

yours
or
Harry's posts here on rec.boats...or whenever I visit the NY

Times
or
Washington Post website.

You also spew gibberish when you're trapped.

Trapped? By you? Puh-leeze. I asked you to name *one* Arab

living
in
an
Arab country who has made a significant positive contribution to

society
in
the last 100 years, and the best you came up with is a guy who

writes
literature that 99.9999999% of the World has never read. Some

impact!



Source of numbers, please. And, provide an explanation for the

author's
presence in American literary critiques on a pretty regular basis.


OK, maybe there's a couple of extra "9's" in there.

99.9995% of the World's population...would put the number of Naguib

Mahfouz
readers at 1 million. That's beyond generous.




Source of numbers, please. How do you know how many books he's sold?

Hint:
You're pulling this outta your ass


Yep. Do you have a better estimate?

because you're a racist.


LOL. Racism has zip, zero, and nada to do with it. Nice
"liberal-losing-an-argument" tactic, though.





You'd nuke an entire region because of a few terrorists? Racist. You know
that.



Harry Krause May 25th 04 11:00 PM

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 
Doug Kanter wrote:
"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
thlink.net...


What contributions would you consider valid ones?

The light bulb, penicillin, the first computer, the internal

combustion

engine and the automobile, space travel, airplanes, pre-emptive

strikes,

and

supply side economics. ;-)



Hmm. No literature. Not surprising, coming from the court jester.

lit·er·a·ture (ltr--chr, -chr)
n.
1.. The body of written works of a language, period, or culture.
2.. Imaginative or creative writing
I read a lot "imaginary or creative writing" everytime I read yours or
Harry's posts here on rec.boats...or whenever I visit the NY Times or
Washington Post website.

You also spew gibberish when you're trapped.


Trapped? By you? Puh-leeze. I asked you to name *one* Arab living in an
Arab country who has made a significant positive contribution to society


in

the last 100 years, and the best you came up with is a guy who writes
literature that 99.9999999% of the World has never read. Some impact!




Source of numbers, please. And, provide an explanation for the author's
presence in American literary critiques on a pretty regular basis.


Well, there's the late Hassan Fathy, an Egyptian I knew and greatly admired.

Hassan Fathy

Fathy devoted himself to housing the poor in developing nations and
deserves study by anyone involved in rural improvement. Fathy worked to
create an indigenous environment at a minimal cost, and in so doing to
improve the economy and the standard of living in rural areas. Fathy
utilized ancient design methods and materials. He integrated a knowledge
of the rural Egyptian economic situation with a wide knowledge of
ancient architectural and town design techniques. He trained local
inhabitants to make their own materials and build their own buildings.
Climatic conditions, public health considerations, and ancient craft
skills also affected his design decisions. Based on the structural
massing of ancient buildings, Fathy incorporated dense brick walls and
traditional courtyard forms to provide passive cooling.

23 March 1900 Born in Alexandria, Egypt.

1926
Graduated from High School of Engineering, Architectural Section,
University of King Fuad I (now University of Cairo), Cairo.

1926-1930
Worked at the Department of Municipal Affairs, Cairo.

1930-1946 Taught at the Faculty of Fine Arts, Cairo.

1937
Designed and exhibited first mud brick projects - country houses for
Lower Egypt.

1941
Constructed first mud brick structures incorporating the inclined vault
- experimental housing in Bahtim, Egypt, commissioned by the Royal
Society of Agriculture.

1946-1953
Delegated to the Antiquities Department to design and supervise the
project of New Gourna Village at Luxor, to displace the inhabitants of
the Old Gourna from the Antiquities Zone.

1949-1952
Appointed Director of the School Building Department, Ministry of Education.

1950
Delegated Consultant to the United Nations Refugee World Assistance.

1953-1957
Returned to teaching at the Faculty of Fine Arts, Cairo. Head of the
Architectural Section in 1954.

1957-1962
Joined Doxiades Associates in Athens as consultant. Lecturer on Climate
and Architecture at the Athens Technical Institute. Member of the
Research Project for the City of the Future.

1963-1965
Director of Pilot Projects for Housing, Ministry of Scientific Research,
Cairo. Designed High Institute of Social Anthropology and Folk Art for
the Ministry of Culture, Cairo. Worked as Consultant to the Minister of
Tourism, Cairo. Delegated by the United Nations Organization for Rural
Development Project in Saudi Arabia.

1966
Lectured on philosophy and aesthetics in Town Planning and Architecture
Department at al-Azhar University.

1975-1977
Lectured on rural housing at the Faculty of Agriculture, Cairo University.

1976-1980
Member, Steering Committee, Aga Khan Award for Architecture.

1977-
Founder and Director, the International Institute for Appropriate
Technology.

Affiliations

Member of the High Council of Arts and Letters, Egypt. Honorary Fellow,
American Research Centre, Cairo.
Honorary Fellow, American Institute of Architecture, 1976.

Awards

1959 Encouragement Prize for Fine Arts and Gold Medal.

1967
National Prize for Fine Arts and Republic Decoration.

1980
Chairman's Award, the Aga Khan Award for Architecture.

1984 Union Internationale des Architectes, Gold Medal.

(Source: The Aga Khan Trust for Culture. 1989. The Hassan Fathy
Collection. A Catalogue of Visual Documents at the Aga Khan Award for
Architecture. Bern, Switzerland: AKTC.)


And then, of course, there is the Aga Khan. And Sadat.

I am no fan of contemporary or recent Arab/Moslem culture or history,
but there have been some significant contributors to the advancement of
our society.

NOYB May 26th 04 04:07 AM

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 

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What contributions would you consider valid ones?

The light bulb, penicillin, the first computer, the

internal
combustion
engine and the automobile, space travel, airplanes,
pre-emptive
strikes,
and
supply side economics. ;-)



Hmm. No literature. Not surprising, coming from the court
jester.

lit·er·a·ture (ltr--chr, -chr)
n.
1.. The body of written works of a language, period, or

culture.
2.. Imaginative or creative writing
I read a lot "imaginary or creative writing" everytime I

read
yours
or
Harry's posts here on rec.boats...or whenever I visit the NY

Times
or
Washington Post website.

You also spew gibberish when you're trapped.

Trapped? By you? Puh-leeze. I asked you to name *one* Arab

living
in
an
Arab country who has made a significant positive contribution to
society
in
the last 100 years, and the best you came up with is a guy who

writes
literature that 99.9999999% of the World has never read. Some

impact!



Source of numbers, please. And, provide an explanation for the

author's
presence in American literary critiques on a pretty regular basis.


OK, maybe there's a couple of extra "9's" in there.

99.9995% of the World's population...would put the number of Naguib
Mahfouz
readers at 1 million. That's beyond generous.




Source of numbers, please. How do you know how many books he's sold?

Hint:
You're pulling this outta your ass


Yep. Do you have a better estimate?

because you're a racist.


LOL. Racism has zip, zero, and nada to do with it. Nice
"liberal-losing-an-argument" tactic, though.





You'd nuke an entire region because of a few terrorists? Racist. You know
that.


It's not racism, Doug. Intolerance of militant religions, maybe...but not
racism.



NOYB May 26th 04 04:13 AM

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
I am no fan of contemporary or recent Arab/Moslem culture or history,
but there have been some significant contributors to the advancement of
our society.


You sure seem to have backed off your position from 2 years ago. Here's
what you had to say
in April 2002:

"The reality is that for at least the last 100 years, the so-called Arab
states have contributed absolutely nothing to the furthering of society in
any field of endeavor and the only reason anyone tolerates their anti-social
behavior is because they happen to be sitting on oil. If it weren't for
their oil, no one would pay them the slightest attention.
Their contributions to the fields of medicine, other sciences, the arts,
socialization, you name it and there is nothing there. Oh...I
forgot...they're adept at cowardice, at furthering the methodology of
terrorism and waging war on non-combatants."



Harry Krause May 26th 04 10:16 AM

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 
NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

I am no fan of contemporary or recent Arab/Moslem culture or history,
but there have been some significant contributors to the advancement of
our society.



You sure seem to have backed off your position from 2 years ago. Here's
what you had to say
in April 2002:

"The reality is that for at least the last 100 years, the so-called Arab
states have contributed absolutely nothing to the furthering of society in
any field of endeavor and the only reason anyone tolerates their anti-social
behavior is because they happen to be sitting on oil. If it weren't for
their oil, no one would pay them the slightest attention.
Their contributions to the fields of medicine, other sciences, the arts,
socialization, you name it and there is nothing there. Oh...I
forgot...they're adept at cowardice, at furthering the methodology of
terrorism and waging war on non-combatants."




Well, unlike you, I don't suffer from a rigid personality or locked
intellectuality. I don't believe Arab society has contributed much since
the last 50 years of the Ottoman Empire, but, of course, there have been
some individuals who have made a positive difference. There were even a
few righteous Germans in Germany during WW II. I don't think much of
Arab society for the last 100-150 years.

jim-- May 26th 04 12:09 PM

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

I am no fan of contemporary or recent Arab/Moslem culture or history,
but there have been some significant contributors to the advancement of
our society.



You sure seem to have backed off your position from 2 years ago. Here's
what you had to say
in April 2002:

"The reality is that for at least the last 100 years, the so-called Arab
states have contributed absolutely nothing to the furthering of society

in
any field of endeavor and the only reason anyone tolerates their

anti-social
behavior is because they happen to be sitting on oil. If it weren't for
their oil, no one would pay them the slightest attention.
Their contributions to the fields of medicine, other sciences, the arts,
socialization, you name it and there is nothing there. Oh...I
forgot...they're adept at cowardice, at furthering the methodology of
terrorism and waging war on non-combatants."




Well, unlike you, I don't suffer from a rigid personality or locked
intellectuality.


Nice spin. No one buys it though.

Why is it that you continually get caught in your lies and fabrications?
People here see right through you Krause. You are nothing but a old man
leading a miserable and failed life so you attempt to build it up in a
remote internet NG.

Get some professional help.



basskisser May 26th 04 12:32 PM

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 
"NOYB" wrote in message ...
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"DSK" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
What positive contributions have the Arab nations made to society in

the
last 100 years?

WTF??

Are you still on the "let's launch a holy crusade to exterminate the
Arabs" kick?

Let's assume, for a moment, that Arabs have not made any

'contributions
to society' in the past 100 years. Does that justify a war against any
or all Arab and/or Muslim nations?


My comment was in reponse to the statement that all Arab nations hate

us.
Essentially, I'm saying "who cares"...they're irrelevant in the whole

scheme
of things...unless of course they attack us. Only *then* do they become
relevant...and then I *do* say that their lack of contributions to

society
should be considered when we're deciding just how many kiloton nuke we
should drop on 'em.


What positive contributions have *you* made, NOBBY?

Many. Let me use an anology. Were I to be arrested, for instance, the

judge
would look at my long list of positive contributions to my

community...and
his punishment would be doled out accordingly. If I were a jobless

vagrant
who had many run-ins with the law and never contributed anything useful

to
society, I'd have a lot harsher punishment. It happens all the time in

our
justice system. I'm saying "let's apply the same standard to nations".


Time to bomb Iceland, then.


Obviously the point zipped right over your head. If Iceland were turning
out terrorists as rapidly as the Middle East, you'd have to weigh its
positive contributions vs. its negative contributions to society when
deciding what level of punishment to inflict upon them.


What about the terrorists the U.S. are "turning out"? Should we bomb
ourselves? It' pretty shallow of you to think that if any global
occurence doesn't fit YOUR idea of *good*, then the country where that
instance occured should be bombed. Purely childish, grow up.

basskisser May 26th 04 12:33 PM

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 
"NOYB" wrote in message ...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message

thlink.net...
"DSK" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
What positive contributions have the Arab nations made to society in

the
last 100 years?

WTF??

Are you still on the "let's launch a holy crusade to exterminate the
Arabs" kick?

Let's assume, for a moment, that Arabs have not made any

'contributions
to society' in the past 100 years. Does that justify a war against any
or all Arab and/or Muslim nations?


My comment was in reponse to the statement that all Arab nations hate

us.
Essentially, I'm saying "who cares"...they're irrelevant in the whole

scheme
of things...unless of course they attack us. Only *then* do they become
relevant...and then I *do* say that their lack of contributions to

society
should be considered when we're deciding just how many kiloton nuke we
should drop on 'em.


Then where would the oil that you republicans want us dependent on
going to come from?


Oil is unaffected by nukes. It'll still be there...only with nothing in the
way between it and us.


Are you really that stupid?

John H May 26th 04 01:13 PM

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 
On 26 May 2004 04:33:25 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

Most snipped

Are you really that stupid?


b'asskisser, do any of these not apply to you?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dip****

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Doug Kanter May 26th 04 02:46 PM

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
"NOYB" wrote in message

...
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
What positive contributions have the Arab nations made to

society in
the
last 100 years?

WTF??

Are you still on the "let's launch a holy crusade to exterminate

the
Arabs" kick?

Let's assume, for a moment, that Arabs have not made any

'contributions
to society' in the past 100 years. Does that justify a war against

any
or all Arab and/or Muslim nations?


My comment was in reponse to the statement that all Arab nations

hate
us.
Essentially, I'm saying "who cares"...they're irrelevant in the

whole
scheme
of things...unless of course they attack us. Only *then* do they

become
relevant...and then I *do* say that their lack of contributions to

society
should be considered when we're deciding just how many kiloton nuke

we
should drop on 'em.


What positive contributions have *you* made, NOBBY?

Many. Let me use an anology. Were I to be arrested, for instance,

the
judge
would look at my long list of positive contributions to my

community...and
his punishment would be doled out accordingly. If I were a jobless

vagrant
who had many run-ins with the law and never contributed anything

useful
to
society, I'd have a lot harsher punishment. It happens all the time

in
our
justice system. I'm saying "let's apply the same standard to

nations".

Time to bomb Iceland, then.


Obviously the point zipped right over your head. If Iceland were

turning
out terrorists as rapidly as the Middle East, you'd have to weigh its
positive contributions vs. its negative contributions to society when
deciding what level of punishment to inflict upon them.


What about the terrorists the U.S. are "turning out"? Should we bomb
ourselves? It' pretty shallow of you to think that if any global
occurence doesn't fit YOUR idea of *good*, then the country where that
instance occured should be bombed. Purely childish, grow up.


Based on NOYB's definition of "turning out terrorists", I believe Florida
should be on the list of places we need to bomb. Didn't two of the hijackers
spend quite a bit of time there, passing out singles in a strip club?



Doug Kanter May 26th 04 02:46 PM

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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What contributions would you consider valid ones?

The light bulb, penicillin, the first computer, the

internal
combustion
engine and the automobile, space travel, airplanes,
pre-emptive
strikes,
and
supply side economics. ;-)



Hmm. No literature. Not surprising, coming from the

court
jester.

lit·er·a·ture (ltr--chr, -chr)
n.
1.. The body of written works of a language, period, or
culture.
2.. Imaginative or creative writing
I read a lot "imaginary or creative writing" everytime I

read
yours
or
Harry's posts here on rec.boats...or whenever I visit the

NY
Times
or
Washington Post website.

You also spew gibberish when you're trapped.

Trapped? By you? Puh-leeze. I asked you to name *one* Arab

living
in
an
Arab country who has made a significant positive contribution

to
society
in
the last 100 years, and the best you came up with is a guy who
writes
literature that 99.9999999% of the World has never read. Some
impact!



Source of numbers, please. And, provide an explanation for the
author's
presence in American literary critiques on a pretty regular

basis.


OK, maybe there's a couple of extra "9's" in there.

99.9995% of the World's population...would put the number of

Naguib
Mahfouz
readers at 1 million. That's beyond generous.




Source of numbers, please. How do you know how many books he's sold?

Hint:
You're pulling this outta your ass

Yep. Do you have a better estimate?

because you're a racist.

LOL. Racism has zip, zero, and nada to do with it. Nice
"liberal-losing-an-argument" tactic, though.





You'd nuke an entire region because of a few terrorists? Racist. You

know
that.


It's not racism, Doug. Intolerance of militant religions, maybe...but not
racism.



Better include Catholicism, then, based on history.



NOYB May 26th 04 10:11 PM

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
"NOYB" wrote in message

...
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
What positive contributions have the Arab nations made to

society in
the
last 100 years?

WTF??

Are you still on the "let's launch a holy crusade to exterminate

the
Arabs" kick?

Let's assume, for a moment, that Arabs have not made any

'contributions
to society' in the past 100 years. Does that justify a war against

any
or all Arab and/or Muslim nations?


My comment was in reponse to the statement that all Arab nations

hate
us.
Essentially, I'm saying "who cares"...they're irrelevant in the

whole
scheme
of things...unless of course they attack us. Only *then* do they

become
relevant...and then I *do* say that their lack of contributions to

society
should be considered when we're deciding just how many kiloton nuke

we
should drop on 'em.


What positive contributions have *you* made, NOBBY?

Many. Let me use an anology. Were I to be arrested, for instance,

the
judge
would look at my long list of positive contributions to my

community...and
his punishment would be doled out accordingly. If I were a jobless

vagrant
who had many run-ins with the law and never contributed anything

useful
to
society, I'd have a lot harsher punishment. It happens all the time

in
our
justice system. I'm saying "let's apply the same standard to

nations".

Time to bomb Iceland, then.


Obviously the point zipped right over your head. If Iceland were

turning
out terrorists as rapidly as the Middle East, you'd have to weigh its
positive contributions vs. its negative contributions to society when
deciding what level of punishment to inflict upon them.


What about the terrorists the U.S. are "turning out"? Should we bomb
ourselves? It' pretty shallow of you to think that if any global
occurence doesn't fit YOUR idea of *good*, then the country where that
instance occured should be bombed. Purely childish, grow up.


*My* idea of good? You mean, there are sane people in the World who
actually think that intentionally targeting women and children in terrorist
attacks is a "good" thing? Are you one of those ****-ups?



NOYB May 26th 04 10:12 PM

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message

ink.net...


What contributions would you consider valid ones?

The light bulb, penicillin, the first computer, the
internal
combustion
engine and the automobile, space travel, airplanes,
pre-emptive
strikes,
and
supply side economics. ;-)



Hmm. No literature. Not surprising, coming from the

court
jester.

lit·er·a·ture (ltr--chr, -chr)
n.
1.. The body of written works of a language, period,

or
culture.
2.. Imaginative or creative writing
I read a lot "imaginary or creative writing" everytime I

read
yours
or
Harry's posts here on rec.boats...or whenever I visit

the
NY
Times
or
Washington Post website.

You also spew gibberish when you're trapped.

Trapped? By you? Puh-leeze. I asked you to name *one*

Arab
living
in
an
Arab country who has made a significant positive

contribution
to
society
in
the last 100 years, and the best you came up with is a guy

who
writes
literature that 99.9999999% of the World has never read.

Some
impact!



Source of numbers, please. And, provide an explanation for the
author's
presence in American literary critiques on a pretty regular

basis.


OK, maybe there's a couple of extra "9's" in there.

99.9995% of the World's population...would put the number of

Naguib
Mahfouz
readers at 1 million. That's beyond generous.




Source of numbers, please. How do you know how many books he's

sold?
Hint:
You're pulling this outta your ass

Yep. Do you have a better estimate?

because you're a racist.

LOL. Racism has zip, zero, and nada to do with it. Nice
"liberal-losing-an-argument" tactic, though.





You'd nuke an entire region because of a few terrorists? Racist. You

know
that.


It's not racism, Doug. Intolerance of militant religions, maybe...but

not
racism.



Better include Catholicism, then, based on history.


If Catholicism were truly a militant religion today, I'd be speaking out
just as vocally.



basskisser May 27th 04 12:26 PM

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 
"NOYB" wrote in message nk.net...
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message

ink.net...


What contributions would you consider valid ones?

The light bulb, penicillin, the first computer, the

internal
combustion
engine and the automobile, space travel, airplanes,

pre-emptive
strikes,
and
supply side economics. ;-)



Hmm. No literature. Not surprising, coming from the

court
jester.

lit·er·a·ture (ltr--chr, -chr)
n.
1.. The body of written works of a language, period,

or
culture.
2.. Imaginative or creative writing
I read a lot "imaginary or creative writing" everytime I

read
yours
or
Harry's posts here on rec.boats...or whenever I visit

the
NY
Times
or
Washington Post website.

You also spew gibberish when you're trapped.

Trapped? By you? Puh-leeze. I asked you to name *one*

Arab
living
in
an
Arab country who has made a significant positive

contribution
to
society
in
the last 100 years, and the best you came up with is a guy

who
writes
literature that 99.9999999% of the World has never read.

Some
impact!



Source of numbers, please. And, provide an explanation for the

author's
presence in American literary critiques on a pretty regular

basis.


OK, maybe there's a couple of extra "9's" in there.

99.9995% of the World's population...would put the number of

Naguib
Mahfouz
readers at 1 million. That's beyond generous.




Source of numbers, please. How do you know how many books he's

sold?
Hint:
You're pulling this outta your ass

Yep. Do you have a better estimate?

because you're a racist.

LOL. Racism has zip, zero, and nada to do with it. Nice
"liberal-losing-an-argument" tactic, though.





You'd nuke an entire region because of a few terrorists? Racist. You

know
that.


It's not racism, Doug. Intolerance of militant religions, maybe...but

not
racism.



Better include Catholicism, then, based on history.


If Catholicism were truly a militant religion today, I'd be speaking out
just as vocally.


How about radical conservatives that want to blow up every country in
the world that doesn't either goose-step, or cow down to BushCo?

basskisser May 27th 04 12:27 PM

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 
"NOYB" wrote in message nk.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
"NOYB" wrote in message

...
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
What positive contributions have the Arab nations made to

society in
the
last 100 years?

WTF??

Are you still on the "let's launch a holy crusade to exterminate

the
Arabs" kick?

Let's assume, for a moment, that Arabs have not made any

'contributions
to society' in the past 100 years. Does that justify a war against

any
or all Arab and/or Muslim nations?


My comment was in reponse to the statement that all Arab nations

hate
us.
Essentially, I'm saying "who cares"...they're irrelevant in the

whole
scheme
of things...unless of course they attack us. Only *then* do they

become
relevant...and then I *do* say that their lack of contributions to

society
should be considered when we're deciding just how many kiloton nuke

we
should drop on 'em.


What positive contributions have *you* made, NOBBY?

Many. Let me use an anology. Were I to be arrested, for instance,

the
judge
would look at my long list of positive contributions to my

community...and
his punishment would be doled out accordingly. If I were a jobless

vagrant
who had many run-ins with the law and never contributed anything

useful
to
society, I'd have a lot harsher punishment. It happens all the time

in
our
justice system. I'm saying "let's apply the same standard to

nations".

Time to bomb Iceland, then.

Obviously the point zipped right over your head. If Iceland were

turning
out terrorists as rapidly as the Middle East, you'd have to weigh its
positive contributions vs. its negative contributions to society when
deciding what level of punishment to inflict upon them.


What about the terrorists the U.S. are "turning out"? Should we bomb
ourselves? It' pretty shallow of you to think that if any global
occurence doesn't fit YOUR idea of *good*, then the country where that
instance occured should be bombed. Purely childish, grow up.


*My* idea of good? You mean, there are sane people in the World who
actually think that intentionally targeting women and children in terrorist
attacks is a "good" thing? Are you one of those ****-ups?


No, you are, NOYB. We just done that....in Iraq. You want to blow up
any country that doesn't goose step to Bushco.

basskisser May 27th 04 12:29 PM

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 
John H wrote in message . ..
On 26 May 2004 04:33:25 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

Most snipped

Are you really that stupid?


b'asskisser, do any of these not apply to you?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dip****

John H

Wow, you are nothing short of a pure dunce. Go look for more pictures
of children "in the biblical sense".

NOYB May 28th 04 09:32 PM

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message

nk.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
"NOYB" wrote in message

...
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
What positive contributions have the Arab nations made to

society in
the
last 100 years?

WTF??

Are you still on the "let's launch a holy crusade to

exterminate
the
Arabs" kick?

Let's assume, for a moment, that Arabs have not made any

'contributions
to society' in the past 100 years. Does that justify a war

against
any
or all Arab and/or Muslim nations?


My comment was in reponse to the statement that all Arab nations

hate
us.
Essentially, I'm saying "who cares"...they're irrelevant in the

whole
scheme
of things...unless of course they attack us. Only *then* do

they
become
relevant...and then I *do* say that their lack of contributions

to
society
should be considered when we're deciding just how many kiloton

nuke
we
should drop on 'em.


What positive contributions have *you* made, NOBBY?

Many. Let me use an anology. Were I to be arrested, for

instance,
the
judge
would look at my long list of positive contributions to my

community...and
his punishment would be doled out accordingly. If I were a

jobless
vagrant
who had many run-ins with the law and never contributed anything

useful
to
society, I'd have a lot harsher punishment. It happens all the

time
in
our
justice system. I'm saying "let's apply the same standard to

nations".

Time to bomb Iceland, then.

Obviously the point zipped right over your head. If Iceland were

turning
out terrorists as rapidly as the Middle East, you'd have to weigh

its
positive contributions vs. its negative contributions to society

when
deciding what level of punishment to inflict upon them.

What about the terrorists the U.S. are "turning out"? Should we bomb
ourselves? It' pretty shallow of you to think that if any global
occurence doesn't fit YOUR idea of *good*, then the country where that
instance occured should be bombed. Purely childish, grow up.


*My* idea of good? You mean, there are sane people in the World who
actually think that intentionally targeting women and children in

terrorist
attacks is a "good" thing? Are you one of those ****-ups?


No, you are, NOYB. We just done that....in Iraq.


"We just done that"? LOL. Classic.

Nevertheless, are you saying we *intentionally* targeted women and children
in terrorist attacks? Remember, the key word here is *intentionally*.



Doug Kanter May 29th 04 08:00 AM

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message

nk.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
"NOYB" wrote in message
...
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
What positive contributions have the Arab nations made to
society in
the
last 100 years?

WTF??

Are you still on the "let's launch a holy crusade to

exterminate
the
Arabs" kick?

Let's assume, for a moment, that Arabs have not made any
'contributions
to society' in the past 100 years. Does that justify a war

against
any
or all Arab and/or Muslim nations?


My comment was in reponse to the statement that all Arab

nations
hate
us.
Essentially, I'm saying "who cares"...they're irrelevant in

the
whole
scheme
of things...unless of course they attack us. Only *then* do

they
become
relevant...and then I *do* say that their lack of

contributions
to
society
should be considered when we're deciding just how many kiloton

nuke
we
should drop on 'em.


What positive contributions have *you* made, NOBBY?

Many. Let me use an anology. Were I to be arrested, for

instance,
the
judge
would look at my long list of positive contributions to my
community...and
his punishment would be doled out accordingly. If I were a

jobless
vagrant
who had many run-ins with the law and never contributed

anything
useful
to
society, I'd have a lot harsher punishment. It happens all

the
time
in
our
justice system. I'm saying "let's apply the same standard to
nations".

Time to bomb Iceland, then.

Obviously the point zipped right over your head. If Iceland were
turning
out terrorists as rapidly as the Middle East, you'd have to weigh

its
positive contributions vs. its negative contributions to society

when
deciding what level of punishment to inflict upon them.

What about the terrorists the U.S. are "turning out"? Should we bomb
ourselves? It' pretty shallow of you to think that if any global
occurence doesn't fit YOUR idea of *good*, then the country where

that
instance occured should be bombed. Purely childish, grow up.

*My* idea of good? You mean, there are sane people in the World who
actually think that intentionally targeting women and children in

terrorist
attacks is a "good" thing? Are you one of those ****-ups?


No, you are, NOYB. We just done that....in Iraq.


"We just done that"? LOL. Classic.

Nevertheless, are you saying we *intentionally* targeted women and

children
in terrorist attacks? Remember, the key word here is *intentionally*.



You are correct. Our weapons are specifically designed so that if they land
on a building containing men, women and children, they only kill the men.



NOYB May 30th 04 02:53 AM

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message

nk.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
"NOYB" wrote in message
...
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
What positive contributions have the Arab nations made

to
society in
the
last 100 years?

WTF??

Are you still on the "let's launch a holy crusade to

exterminate
the
Arabs" kick?

Let's assume, for a moment, that Arabs have not made any
'contributions
to society' in the past 100 years. Does that justify a war

against
any
or all Arab and/or Muslim nations?


My comment was in reponse to the statement that all Arab

nations
hate
us.
Essentially, I'm saying "who cares"...they're irrelevant in

the
whole
scheme
of things...unless of course they attack us. Only *then* do

they
become
relevant...and then I *do* say that their lack of

contributions
to
society
should be considered when we're deciding just how many

kiloton
nuke
we
should drop on 'em.


What positive contributions have *you* made, NOBBY?

Many. Let me use an anology. Were I to be arrested, for

instance,
the
judge
would look at my long list of positive contributions to my
community...and
his punishment would be doled out accordingly. If I were a

jobless
vagrant
who had many run-ins with the law and never contributed

anything
useful
to
society, I'd have a lot harsher punishment. It happens all

the
time
in
our
justice system. I'm saying "let's apply the same standard

to
nations".

Time to bomb Iceland, then.

Obviously the point zipped right over your head. If Iceland

were
turning
out terrorists as rapidly as the Middle East, you'd have to

weigh
its
positive contributions vs. its negative contributions to society

when
deciding what level of punishment to inflict upon them.

What about the terrorists the U.S. are "turning out"? Should we

bomb
ourselves? It' pretty shallow of you to think that if any global
occurence doesn't fit YOUR idea of *good*, then the country where

that
instance occured should be bombed. Purely childish, grow up.

*My* idea of good? You mean, there are sane people in the World who
actually think that intentionally targeting women and children in

terrorist
attacks is a "good" thing? Are you one of those ****-ups?

No, you are, NOYB. We just done that....in Iraq.


"We just done that"? LOL. Classic.

Nevertheless, are you saying we *intentionally* targeted women and

children
in terrorist attacks? Remember, the key word here is *intentionally*.



You are correct. Our weapons are specifically designed so that if they

land
on a building containing men, women and children, they only kill the men.


We don't hide armed soldiers among women and children. So if American women
and children are killed by terrorists, it's not "collateral damage"...it's
intentional.

A wee bit difference there, Dougie.



basskisser June 1st 04 08:17 PM

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 
"NOYB" wrote in message ...
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message

nk.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
"NOYB" wrote in message

...
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
What positive contributions have the Arab nations made

to
society in
the
last 100 years?

WTF??

Are you still on the "let's launch a holy crusade to

exterminate
the
Arabs" kick?

Let's assume, for a moment, that Arabs have not made any

'contributions
to society' in the past 100 years. Does that justify a war

against
any
or all Arab and/or Muslim nations?


My comment was in reponse to the statement that all Arab

nations
hate
us.
Essentially, I'm saying "who cares"...they're irrelevant in

the
whole
scheme
of things...unless of course they attack us. Only *then* do

they
become
relevant...and then I *do* say that their lack of

contributions
to
society
should be considered when we're deciding just how many

kiloton
nuke
we
should drop on 'em.


What positive contributions have *you* made, NOBBY?

Many. Let me use an anology. Were I to be arrested, for

instance,
the
judge
would look at my long list of positive contributions to my

community...and
his punishment would be doled out accordingly. If I were a

jobless
vagrant
who had many run-ins with the law and never contributed

anything
useful
to
society, I'd have a lot harsher punishment. It happens all

the
time
in
our
justice system. I'm saying "let's apply the same standard

to
nations".

Time to bomb Iceland, then.

Obviously the point zipped right over your head. If Iceland

were
turning
out terrorists as rapidly as the Middle East, you'd have to

weigh
its
positive contributions vs. its negative contributions to society

when
deciding what level of punishment to inflict upon them.

What about the terrorists the U.S. are "turning out"? Should we

bomb
ourselves? It' pretty shallow of you to think that if any global
occurence doesn't fit YOUR idea of *good*, then the country where

that
instance occured should be bombed. Purely childish, grow up.

*My* idea of good? You mean, there are sane people in the World who
actually think that intentionally targeting women and children in

terrorist
attacks is a "good" thing? Are you one of those ****-ups?

No, you are, NOYB. We just done that....in Iraq.

"We just done that"? LOL. Classic.

Nevertheless, are you saying we *intentionally* targeted women and

children
in terrorist attacks? Remember, the key word here is *intentionally*.



You are correct. Our weapons are specifically designed so that if they

land
on a building containing men, women and children, they only kill the men.


We don't hide armed soldiers among women and children.


Horse****!!!!


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