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Paul Fritz wrote:
The best doctors (and dentists :-) ) I've meet have all been

engineers
or math majors in undergrad......something about their problem solving
skills :-)


Unless they have gotten intellectually lazy and take a lot of shortcuts,
like NOBBY.

BTW most younger doctors wouldn't have a chance to take an engineering
degree undergrad, they have to have either pre-med or one of the
biological sciences. Getting into medical school has become totally cut
throat and an engineer would not be remotely competitive even with
perfect M-Cats.


Very true...for dental school as well. I didn't get into dental school on my
first attempt. Dental school had maybe 8 or 9 "required" science classes to
qualify for admission. They called it the Biology-Chemistry-Physics (BCP)
GPA. They also looked at the overall science GPA. Those with a science GPA
below 3.0, didn't even get looked at. I had a 2.9 "science" GPA (every
engineering class counted towards the science GPA), and a 3.1 overall GPA.
However, my BCP GPA was 3.86. After being placed on a "waiting list" the
first go-around, I wrote a letter to one of the Professors on the selection
committee who also had an engineering degree. I pointed out to him that the
school was passing up a lot of good candidates who were engineers solely on
a policy that didn't compare apples to apples. There were classmates of
mine who studied French in undergrad and took only the bare minimum of
science classes. They had science GPA's of 3.2 and BCP GPA's of
3.2...compared to my BCP of 3.86. My letter managed to get my application
a second look...and I was accepted the following year. I finally graduated
dental school with a GPA that put me 18th in a class of 93 students (GPA
around a 3.6).


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"NOYB" wrote in message
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I had Civil Engineering I and II in my ME program. It followed

Statics
and
Design.


Out of curiosity.....where you in a 'college of enginneering' majoring

in
mechanical, or were you in a 'college of mechanical engineering'?....


BSME Purdue University 1993. It was the "Schools of Engineering"

Mechanical
Engineering degree. In April of this year, they renamed the "Schools of
Engineering" the "Colleges of Engineering". Purdue also offered a
"Mechanical Engineering Technology" (MET) degree...but I believe it was
offered by the Schools of Technology.


So you did get a 'real' mechanical engineering degree. :-)


Here's a link of the program I attended:
http://tools.ecn.purdue.edu/ME/Undergrad/index283.whtml

The CE classes I took were technical electives. I had a difficult time
visualizing the concepts of fluid mechanics and heat and mass transfer. I
preferred things that I could visualize a little bit easier...like

Statics,
Dynamics, and Structural Design.


So the CE classes where not required.

I had the difficult time with Eng. Calculus and quantum physics.....two
area I never had and will never have a need for. :-)







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P.Fritz wrote:
Not a significant structural engineering course in the lot


really? What do you call

"Dynamics of rigid Bodies"
"Principles & Applications of Eng. Materials"
"Mechanics of Materials"

Designing a bridge was a freshman statics exercise when I was in school.


snicker if you think those courses qualify to design bridges, then you
are a bigger fool than ever.
Simple 'beam' design as taught in statics, as well as what is covered in
mechanics of materials doesn't come close to the needed information for
bridge design.......you are a fool.


Clueless as usual


Agreed.


glad to see you admit you are such a fool




DSK



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"DSK" wrote in message
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Paul Fritz wrote:
The best doctors (and dentists :-) ) I've meet have all been

engineers
or math majors in undergrad......something about their problem solving
skills :-)


Unless they have gotten intellectually lazy and take a lot of shortcuts,
like NOBBY.

BTW most younger doctors wouldn't have a chance to take an engineering
degree undergrad, they have to have either pre-med or one of the
biological sciences. Getting into medical school has become totally cut
throat and an engineer would not be remotely competitive even with
perfect M-Cats.


Very true...for dental school as well. I didn't get into dental school on

my
first attempt. Dental school had maybe 8 or 9 "required" science classes

to
qualify for admission. They called it the Biology-Chemistry-Physics (BCP)
GPA. They also looked at the overall science GPA. Those with a science

GPA
below 3.0, didn't even get looked at. I had a 2.9 "science" GPA (every
engineering class counted towards the science GPA), and a 3.1 overall GPA.
However, my BCP GPA was 3.86. After being placed on a "waiting list" the
first go-around, I wrote a letter to one of the Professors on the

selection
committee who also had an engineering degree. I pointed out to him that

the
school was passing up a lot of good candidates who were engineers solely

on
a policy that didn't compare apples to apples. There were classmates of
mine who studied French in undergrad and took only the bare minimum of
science classes. They had science GPA's of 3.2 and BCP GPA's of
3.2...compared to my BCP of 3.86. My letter managed to get my

application
a second look...and I was accepted the following year. I finally

graduated
dental school with a GPA that put me 18th in a class of 93 students (GPA
around a 3.6).


I know two doctors ( both under 40 ) personally that don't even have a
undergraduate degree.




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"P.Fritz" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Paul Fritz" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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I had Civil Engineering I and II in my ME program. It followed

Statics
and
Design.

Out of curiosity.....where you in a 'college of enginneering'

majoring
in
mechanical, or were you in a 'college of mechanical engineering'?....


BSME Purdue University 1993. It was the "Schools of Engineering"

Mechanical
Engineering degree. In April of this year, they renamed the "Schools of
Engineering" the "Colleges of Engineering". Purdue also offered a
"Mechanical Engineering Technology" (MET) degree...but I believe it was
offered by the Schools of Technology.


So you did get a 'real' mechanical engineering degree. :-)


I lived with an MET guy. He'd always ask "how do you guys remember off the
top of your head that g=9.806 m/s^2"?

Answer: Uh, 'cause we used it about a gazillion times in our calculations
each day.

The MET guys knew the hands-on stuff better however.


Here's a link of the program I attended:
http://tools.ecn.purdue.edu/ME/Undergrad/index283.whtml

The CE classes I took were technical electives. I had a difficult time
visualizing the concepts of fluid mechanics and heat and mass transfer.

I
preferred things that I could visualize a little bit easier...like

Statics,
Dynamics, and Structural Design.


So the CE classes where not required.

I had the difficult time with Eng. Calculus


Especially Calc. II. I believe that covered Fourier transforms?

and quantum physics.....two
area I never had and will never have a need for. :-)


I agree once again. Things I could visualize, I did well in. Things that
required plugging and chugging variables into the 3rd derivative of an
equation made no sense to me.





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"NOYB" wrote in message
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"P.Fritz" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Paul Fritz" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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I had Civil Engineering I and II in my ME program. It followed
Statics
and
Design.

Out of curiosity.....where you in a 'college of enginneering'

majoring
in
mechanical, or were you in a 'college of mechanical

engineering'?....

BSME Purdue University 1993. It was the "Schools of Engineering"

Mechanical
Engineering degree. In April of this year, they renamed the "Schools

of
Engineering" the "Colleges of Engineering". Purdue also offered a
"Mechanical Engineering Technology" (MET) degree...but I believe it

was
offered by the Schools of Technology.


So you did get a 'real' mechanical engineering degree. :-)


I lived with an MET guy. He'd always ask "how do you guys remember off

the
top of your head that g=9.806 m/s^2"?

Answer: Uh, 'cause we used it about a gazillion times in our calculations
each day.

The MET guys knew the hands-on stuff better however.


What I meant was Getting a BSME as opposed to a BE majoring in mechanical
:-)



Here's a link of the program I attended:
http://tools.ecn.purdue.edu/ME/Undergrad/index283.whtml

The CE classes I took were technical electives. I had a difficult

time
visualizing the concepts of fluid mechanics and heat and mass

transfer.
I
preferred things that I could visualize a little bit easier...like

Statics,
Dynamics, and Structural Design.


So the CE classes where not required.

I had the difficult time with Eng. Calculus


Especially Calc. II. I believe that covered Fourier transforms?


It was a few (well many) years back..........diffy qs went right by
me.......but I was more concerned about my design studios


and quantum physics.....two
area I never had and will never have a need for. :-)


I agree once again. Things I could visualize, I did well in. Things that
required plugging and chugging variables into the 3rd derivative of an
equation made no sense to me.





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P.Fritz wrote:
I know two doctors ( both under 40 ) personally that don't even have a
undergraduate degree.


DOs or vets?

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P.Fritz wrote:
snicker if you think those courses qualify to design bridges, then you
are a bigger fool than ever.
Simple 'beam' design as taught in statics, as well as what is covered in
mechanics of materials doesn't come close to the needed information for
bridge design.......you are a fool.


Why, no... those course wouldn't land one a job as a bridge designer,
but that's not what I said. With the knowledge in those courses (plus,
perhaps I should add, a little common sense) one *could* design a bridge
that would not fall down.

Maybe that parenthetical qualifier lets you out of the picture?


.......you are a fool.


Maybe, maybe not... but I'm not the one dredging for any excuse to call
other people names. Are you really 9 years old or do you just act this
way on the internet?

DSK

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Very true...for dental school as well. I didn't get into dental school on my
first attempt.


Gee, why am I not surprised by THAT????
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"NOYB" wrote in message news:HsJqc.21317
Very true...for dental school as well. I didn't get into dental school

on my
first attempt.


Gee, why am I not surprised by THAT????


Huh?


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