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*JimH* June 25th 05 03:35 PM


"P. Fritz" wrote in message
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"*JimH*" wrote in message
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"P. Fritz" wrote in message
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"John H" wrote in message
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:08:51 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:

"P. Fritz" wrote in message
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Yeah......the evil bush tax cuts caused oil prices to

rise.....LMAO


If this country became a war zone like Iraq, and a black market
developed
for certain goods, do you think those things would be MORE

expensive,
or
LESS expensive than before the war?


That would depend on the demand and the supply. If the demand

greatly
increased,
but the supply remained decreased or remained constant, then most
likely the
goods would be more expensive.

And it still doesn't have anything to do with the "evil' bush tax

cuts.

Black markets tend to develop when guvmints interfer with supply and
demand.....

I still believe that liebrals cannot grasp the simple supply/demand
economics because of their static thinking.


--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."



"It is all Bush's fault. Bush is evil. Cheney is evil. Bush's

cabinet
members are evil. The conservative Supreme Court Justices are evil.
Republican members of congress are evil."

That sort of sums up their position on anything. ;-)


Yeah,,,,,well I will be doing my share of increasing demand.......will be
heading down your way for the Fourth......leaving Thursday for
PIB..........about 130-140 gallons for the RT.......






That is one of the busiest times there. What marina did you get
reservations at or are you going to try to grab a mooring buoy?

I will keep my fingers crossed for you that you have good weather and calm
seas.



Doug Kanter June 25th 05 03:58 PM

"P. Fritz" wrote in message
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Black markets tend to develop when guvmints interfer with supply and
demand.....


A black market is just one example of an adjustment made in response to an
unstable environment. War is another example of an unstable environment, and
both have an effect on prices. Ask anyone who was an adult during the 2nd
world war.



P. Fritz June 25th 05 04:00 PM


"*JimH*" wrote in message
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"P. Fritz" wrote in message
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"*JimH*" wrote in message
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"P. Fritz" wrote in message
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"John H" wrote in message
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:08:51 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:

"P. Fritz" wrote in message
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Yeah......the evil bush tax cuts caused oil prices to

rise.....LMAO


If this country became a war zone like Iraq, and a black market
developed
for certain goods, do you think those things would be MORE

expensive,
or
LESS expensive than before the war?


That would depend on the demand and the supply. If the demand

greatly
increased,
but the supply remained decreased or remained constant, then

most
likely the
goods would be more expensive.

And it still doesn't have anything to do with the "evil' bush tax

cuts.

Black markets tend to develop when guvmints interfer with supply

and
demand.....

I still believe that liebrals cannot grasp the simple

supply/demand
economics because of their static thinking.


--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."



"It is all Bush's fault. Bush is evil. Cheney is evil. Bush's

cabinet
members are evil. The conservative Supreme Court Justices are evil.
Republican members of congress are evil."

That sort of sums up their position on anything. ;-)


Yeah,,,,,well I will be doing my share of increasing demand.......will

be
heading down your way for the Fourth......leaving Thursday for
PIB..........about 130-140 gallons for the RT.......






That is one of the busiest times there. What marina did you get
reservations at or are you going to try to grab a mooring buoy?

I will keep my fingers crossed for you that you have good weather and

calm
seas.


I go to the public docks......getting there on Thursday evening, I've
never had a problem.

I just hope for no wind from the east when I hit Erie............THAT
makes for a real nasty ride.







John H June 25th 05 04:06 PM

On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:14:17 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

John H wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:07:20 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:


John H wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:05:02 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:



John H wrote:


On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:05:31 -0400, "Newsgroup Reader" wrote:




JohnH,

It is funny that Kevin thinks someone showing Clams an ID showing that the
person with the ID is not Kevin Noble is proof that Basskisser is not Kevin
Noble.

Basskisser has been sending me email asking me to meet up with Clams and
show him my ID. ; )


"John H" wrote in message
news:mepob1lbd7cfalrnhhd4k0ki3gqda1bsi4@4ax .com...



On 24 Jun 2005 12:08:06 -0700, wrote:





A tongue lashing from Kevin the village idiot. I will always remember
this
day.

I'm not Kevin, and if I'm an idiot, it certainly makes you much, much
worse. Now, you've chastised me here for insulting people. But, I
never, ever said that I would refrain from such. YOU DID. I guess it
was just another of your hundreds of lies here, huh?
Now, as long as you keep calling me Kevin, I'll ask: will you be man
enough to apologize when I prove I'm not Kevin? Now, before you show
your stupidity, I've been emailing Clams. We're going to try to meet up
in a couple of weeks. Well, are you at least man enough to answer?
Nah....I doubt it.

How many emails will it take to get Clams to say you're not Kevin?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

The solution is simple: Kevin should ask Harry to take him for a ride on the 36'
Lobsta boat. Then Harry could check Kevin's birth certificate, driver's license,
college diplomas (all of them), and any mug shots that may exist. Then Kevin
could voutch for Harry's boat, and Harry could voutch for Kevin's lack of
authenticity.


We had a great day boating today, Herring, but we didn't see you out on
the water. We even popped into Deale for lunch.

Beautiful weather, too. Will probably be out again Sunday. It's great to
have reliable boats.


Harry, Harry, Harry...

If you've been following along, you'll know I spent the day on the water
yesterday! I very seldom go out two days in a row - too many other commitments.

We did catch a mess of perch yesterday, but not nearly as nice as the fish you
caught today!

Gosh, all the way from Solomons to Deale for lunch. Wow!


You need to work on your habit of jumping to conclusions. Never said a
word about fishing or about a starting off point.



Is it true that leaving a boat on a trailer will improve it's reliability? I've
also heard that a mythical boat has 100% reliability. Is that true?



A properly trailered and stored boat will suffer fewer breakdowns and
less wear and tear than an identical boat kept at a marina.


Was the Deale water taxi in operation Saturday?



I didn't notice.


Especially if it's left on the trailer!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H June 25th 05 04:43 PM

On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:58:56 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...


Black markets tend to develop when guvmints interfer with supply and
demand.....


A black market is just one example of an adjustment made in response to an
unstable environment. War is another example of an unstable environment, and
both have an effect on prices. Ask anyone who was an adult during the 2nd
world war.

In what way did they affect prices?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H June 25th 05 04:48 PM

On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:19:11 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:08:51 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:

"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...


Yeah......the evil bush tax cuts caused oil prices to rise.....LMAO


If this country became a war zone like Iraq, and a black market developed
for certain goods, do you think those things would be MORE expensive, or
LESS expensive than before the war?


That would depend on the demand and the supply. If the demand greatly
increased,
but the supply remained decreased or remained constant, then most likely
the
goods would be more expensive.
--
John H


Let's assume that it's something people normally want ALL the time, John.
Coffee, shoes, whatever. Don't hand me junior high school economic theories.

Well, if we assume the demand hasn't changed, and the supply has diminished,
then prices will go up.

In the case of oil, the demand has greatly increased over the past several years
(almost as bad as outsourcing!).

The junior high economic theories are, at least, rational.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

P. Fritz June 25th 05 05:22 PM


"John H" wrote in message
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:58:56 GMT, "Doug Kanter"


wrote:

"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...


Black markets tend to develop when guvmints interfer with supply and
demand.....


A black market is just one example of an adjustment made in response to

an
unstable environment. War is another example of an unstable environment,

and
both have an effect on prices. Ask anyone who was an adult during the

2nd
world war.

In what way did they affect prices?


Once again........he fails to get it.....it has nothing to do with
"unstability" it has everything to do with supply and demand.

A black market is basic economic reaction to a guvmint restricting
supply.........the price on the "black market" is simply a reflection of the
ability of suppliers to meet the demand.......based on the risk involved.

War creates a higher demand, and often has a reduced supply because of
damage to production facilities.

The current Iraq conflict is not the reason demand has escalated, nor has
there been a major disruption in supply.



--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."




P. Fritz June 25th 05 05:23 PM


"John H" wrote in message
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:19:11 GMT, "Doug Kanter"


wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:08:51 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:

"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...


Yeah......the evil bush tax cuts caused oil prices to rise.....LMAO


If this country became a war zone like Iraq, and a black market

developed
for certain goods, do you think those things would be MORE expensive,

or
LESS expensive than before the war?


That would depend on the demand and the supply. If the demand greatly
increased,
but the supply remained decreased or remained constant, then most

likely
the
goods would be more expensive.
--
John H


Let's assume that it's something people normally want ALL the time,

John.
Coffee, shoes, whatever. Don't hand me junior high school economic

theories.

Well, if we assume the demand hasn't changed, and the supply has

diminished,
then prices will go up.

In the case of oil, the demand has greatly increased over the past

several years
(almost as bad as outsourcing!).

The junior high economic theories are, at least, rational.
--


Unlike static liebral thinking

John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."




Doug Kanter June 25th 05 05:28 PM


"John H" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:58:56 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:

"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...


Black markets tend to develop when guvmints interfer with supply and
demand.....


A black market is just one example of an adjustment made in response to an
unstable environment. War is another example of an unstable environment,
and
both have an effect on prices. Ask anyone who was an adult during the 2nd
world war.

In what way did they affect prices?


Simple version: In response to shortages, the prices of such things as raw
metal products and coffee increased. Now, the price of oil is increasing due
to PERCEIVED stressors on the market. I say "perceived" because there is NO
supply shortage, and the mythical demand you like to talk about is not
enough to explain the drastic price increases over the past couple of years.



Doug Kanter June 25th 05 05:31 PM

"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...


Once again........he fails to get it.....it has nothing to do with
"unstability" it has everything to do with supply and demand.

A black market is basic economic reaction to a guvmint restricting
supply.........the price on the "black market" is simply a reflection of
the ability of suppliers to meet the demand.......based on the risk
involved.


The government is not restricting the oil supply at the moment, and neither
are the Saudis. There is no black market for oil in THIS country.



War creates a higher demand, and often has a reduced supply because of
damage to production facilities.


"Demand" means the desire of consumers to use more of a product. Other than
the presence of lots of fuel guzzling military vehicles, please explain
WHERE you believe the excess demand is coming from, and why.



The current Iraq conflict is not the reason demand has escalated, nor has
there been a major disruption in supply.


Again, specifically WHERE do you see increased demand? Name countries and
finished oil products in your explanation.




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