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[email protected] June 23rd 05 11:41 PM

Oil reaches record $60 a barrel
 
That's:

Bad for Bush
Bad for the US
Bad for boating. :-(


*JimH* June 23rd 05 11:53 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...
That's:

Bad for Bush
Bad for the US
Bad for boating. :-(

I agree.

And what exactly did Bush have to do with this?



ed June 23rd 05 11:58 PM

Bush is reaping in $$ he is a major stock holder in the oil companies, so he
is happy to see the price go up. Why do you think he hasnt put more interest
in alternative fuel ? It would cut down on his profits .

Ed
"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...
That's:

Bad for Bush
Bad for the US
Bad for boating. :-(

I agree.

And what exactly did Bush have to do with this?




*JimH* June 24th 05 12:06 AM

Please provide proof that Bush is responsible for the current oil prices.

If he owns stock in US Oil, more power to him. Is he not allowed to do so?


"ed" wrote in message
...
Bush is reaping in $$ he is a major stock holder in the oil companies, so
he is happy to see the price go up. Why do you think he hasnt put more
interest in alternative fuel ? It would cut down on his profits .

Ed
"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...
That's:

Bad for Bush
Bad for the US
Bad for boating. :-(

I agree.

And what exactly did Bush have to do with this?






ed June 24th 05 12:12 AM

Explain why he isnt pushing for more alternative fuels in the united states.
If he has our interest, one would think he wouldnt want our United States be
controled by foreign oil.

Ed
"*JimH*" wrote in message
...
Please provide proof that Bush is responsible for the current oil prices.

If he owns stock in US Oil, more power to him. Is he not allowed to do
so?


"ed" wrote in message
...
Bush is reaping in $$ he is a major stock holder in the oil companies, so
he is happy to see the price go up. Why do you think he hasnt put more
interest in alternative fuel ? It would cut down on his profits .

Ed
"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...
That's:

Bad for Bush
Bad for the US
Bad for boating. :-(

I agree.

And what exactly did Bush have to do with this?








NOYB June 24th 05 12:13 AM


wrote in message
oups.com...
That's:

Bad for Bush
Bad for the US
Bad for boating. :-(


Harry doesn't care about #2 and #3 as long as #1 is true.



*JimH* June 24th 05 12:16 AM

He has.

Now answer my questions.


"ed" wrote in message
...
Explain why he isnt pushing for more alternative fuels in the united
states.



Ed
"*JimH*" wrote in message
...
Please provide proof that Bush is responsible for the current oil prices.

If he owns stock in US Oil, more power to him. Is he not allowed to do
so?


"ed" wrote in message
...
Bush is reaping in $$ he is a major stock holder in the oil companies,
so he is happy to see the price go up. Why do you think he hasnt put
more interest in alternative fuel ? It would cut down on his profits .

Ed
"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...
That's:

Bad for Bush
Bad for the US
Bad for boating. :-(

I agree.

And what exactly did Bush have to do with this?










[email protected] June 24th 05 12:19 AM

It's bad for Bush because the public will develop an unfavorable opinon
of any politician leading the country when energy prices
go way up. While Bush isn't going to stand for reelection in 2008
(unless somebody amends the Constitution to declare him "Emperor"), the
Repubs will be counting on him to stump for
RW candidates in the mid-terms next year. I imagine that many Repubs
are nervous about eroding public confidence in GWB.

It's bad for the US because increased energy prices stimulate
inflation, usually followed by restrictive monetary policy, increased
government deficits, etc.

It's bad for boating for obvious reasons. I spoke to a broker friend
yesterday who reported he literally can't (almost) give away a nice
boat with twin 454's. "People ask me how much gas it burns, I tell them
about 50 gallons an hour, they start multiplying by $3 a gallon and
they're gone, gone, gone." Family budgets stretched farther than ever
to purchase gasoline for family cars and to pay for home heating oil
have fewer "left over" dollars for something expendable- llike a boat.


*JimH* June 24th 05 12:26 AM

wrote in message
ups.com...
It's bad for Bush because the public will develop an unfavorable opinon
of any politician leading the country when energy prices
go way up. While Bush isn't going to stand for reelection in 2008
(unless somebody amends the Constitution to declare him "Emperor"), the
Repubs will be counting on him to stump for
RW candidates in the mid-terms next year. I imagine that many Repubs
are nervous about eroding public confidence in GWB.

It's bad for the US because increased energy prices stimulate
inflation, usually followed by restrictive monetary policy, increased
government deficits, etc.

It's bad for boating for obvious reasons. I spoke to a broker friend
yesterday who reported he literally can't (almost) give away a nice
boat with twin 454's. "People ask me how much gas it burns, I tell them
about 50 gallons an hour, they start multiplying by $3 a gallon and
they're gone, gone, gone." Family budgets stretched farther than ever
to purchase gasoline for family cars and to pay for home heating oil
have fewer "left over" dollars for something expendable- llike a boat.


No one ever argued this was not bad for boating, bad for car owners or bad
for Bush.

The point is....how is this Bush's fault?

The ignorant will blame Bush.....thus the "Bad for Bush" mentality.

The educated know better.



ed June 24th 05 12:26 AM

Dont know what you have been reading but he has done the least of all
presidents.
"*JimH*" wrote in message
...
He has.

Now answer my questions.


"ed" wrote in message
...
Explain why he isnt pushing for more alternative fuels in the united
states.



Ed
"*JimH*" wrote in message
...
Please provide proof that Bush is responsible for the current oil
prices.

If he owns stock in US Oil, more power to him. Is he not allowed to do
so?


"ed" wrote in message
...
Bush is reaping in $$ he is a major stock holder in the oil companies,
so he is happy to see the price go up. Why do you think he hasnt put
more interest in alternative fuel ? It would cut down on his profits .

Ed
"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...
That's:

Bad for Bush
Bad for the US
Bad for boating. :-(

I agree.

And what exactly did Bush have to do with this?












*JimH* June 24th 05 12:36 AM

Answer my question please. Specifics would be appreciated.


"ed" wrote in message
...
Dont know what you have been reading but he has done the least of all
presidents.
"*JimH*" wrote in message
...
He has.

Now answer my questions.


"ed" wrote in message
...
Explain why he isnt pushing for more alternative fuels in the united
states.



Ed
"*JimH*" wrote in message
...
Please provide proof that Bush is responsible for the current oil
prices.

If he owns stock in US Oil, more power to him. Is he not allowed to do
so?


"ed" wrote in message
...
Bush is reaping in $$ he is a major stock holder in the oil companies,
so he is happy to see the price go up. Why do you think he hasnt put
more interest in alternative fuel ? It would cut down on his profits .

Ed
"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...
That's:

Bad for Bush
Bad for the US
Bad for boating. :-(

I agree.

And what exactly did Bush have to do with this?














ed June 24th 05 12:46 AM

Here is just ONE link that tells about Bush and his oil companies
http://www.guardian.co.uk/climatecha...501646,00.html

Ed
"*JimH*" wrote in message
...
Please provide proof that Bush is responsible for the current oil prices.

If he owns stock in US Oil, more power to him. Is he not allowed to do
so?


"ed" wrote in message
...
Bush is reaping in $$ he is a major stock holder in the oil companies, so
he is happy to see the price go up. Why do you think he hasnt put more
interest in alternative fuel ? It would cut down on his profits .

Ed
"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...
That's:

Bad for Bush
Bad for the US
Bad for boating. :-(

I agree.

And what exactly did Bush have to do with this?








*JimH* June 24th 05 12:55 AM

So it all traces back to Kyoto?

This is the best you have to offer on how Bush is responsible for current
oil prices?

LOL!

"ed" wrote in message
...
Here is just ONE link that tells about Bush and his oil companies
http://www.guardian.co.uk/climatecha...501646,00.html

Ed
"*JimH*" wrote in message
...
Please provide proof that Bush is responsible for the current oil prices.

If he owns stock in US Oil, more power to him. Is he not allowed to do
so?


"ed" wrote in message
...
Bush is reaping in $$ he is a major stock holder in the oil companies,
so he is happy to see the price go up. Why do you think he hasnt put
more interest in alternative fuel ? It would cut down on his profits .

Ed
"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...
That's:

Bad for Bush
Bad for the US
Bad for boating. :-(

I agree.

And what exactly did Bush have to do with this?










John H June 24th 05 01:51 AM

On 23 Jun 2005 16:19:41 -0700, wrote:

It's bad for Bush because the public will develop an unfavorable opinon
of any politician leading the country when energy prices
go way up. While Bush isn't going to stand for reelection in 2008
(unless somebody amends the Constitution to declare him "Emperor"), the
Repubs will be counting on him to stump for
RW candidates in the mid-terms next year. I imagine that many Repubs
are nervous about eroding public confidence in GWB.

It's bad for the US because increased energy prices stimulate
inflation, usually followed by restrictive monetary policy, increased
government deficits, etc.

It's bad for boating for obvious reasons. I spoke to a broker friend
yesterday who reported he literally can't (almost) give away a nice
boat with twin 454's. "People ask me how much gas it burns, I tell them
about 50 gallons an hour, they start multiplying by $3 a gallon and
they're gone, gone, gone." Family budgets stretched farther than ever
to purchase gasoline for family cars and to pay for home heating oil
have fewer "left over" dollars for something expendable- llike a boat.


Hell, Chuck, at $1.50 a gallon twin 454's would consume a healthy income!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Dan J.S. June 24th 05 03:25 AM


"ed" wrote in message
...
Explain why he isnt pushing for more alternative fuels in the united
states. If he has our interest, one would think he wouldnt want our United
States be controled by foreign oil.

Ed


Bush is a proponent of Ethanol, which is home grown from corn. I think he is
pushing for alternatives. Oil is up because Chinese factories are running
generators powered by diesel to run them, since the power grid in China
sucks. You can thank those shopping trips to walmart for the oil prices
being up.

Currently Chinese demand is running oil and steel prices out of control.



Tim June 24th 05 04:21 AM

Why do you think he hasnt put more interest
in alternative fuel ? It would cut down on his profits .


Ed

===

Ed, when has any president put interest in alternative fuel?


Oil is up because Chinese factories are running
generators powered by diesel to run them, since the power grid in China

sucks. You can thank those shopping trips to walmart for the oil prices

being up.

Currently Chinese demand is running oil and steel prices out of
control.

China now buys 40% of the world oil market. Not counting scrap and raw
materials to be turned into goods to come back to us in export sales.

as far as natural recourses go, China is holding the bag, andis
squeezing everybody else's.


Gordon June 24th 05 05:24 AM


"ed" wrote in message
...
Bush is reaping in $$ he is a major stock holder in the oil companies, so

he
is happy to see the price go up. Why do you think he hasnt put more

interest
in alternative fuel ? It would cut down on his profits .


Ed,
Remember 1973 and what happened with oil and gas prices? Has any Prez, dem
or rep, done anything since then to cure the problem?
Know why?
Because without an outlet to sell oil, about $90 billion, give or take,
arabs would have nothing. Think terrorism is bad now?
In all reality, a whole lot of nations would be bankrupt and the whole
world would soon be up the old creek without a paddle (boating related
reply).
Gordon



Jeff Rigby June 24th 05 09:32 AM


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
Dan J.S. wrote:
"ed" wrote in message
...

Explain why he isnt pushing for more alternative fuels in the united
states. If he has our interest, one would think he wouldnt want our
United States be controled by foreign oil.

Ed



Bush is a proponent of Ethanol, which is home grown from corn. I think he
is pushing for alternatives. Oil is up because Chinese factories are
running generators powered by diesel to run them, since the power grid in
China sucks. You can thank those shopping trips to walmart for the oil
prices being up.

Currently Chinese demand is running oil and steel prices out of control.


Bush has done absolutely nothing to try to ease petrol prices. He doesn't
even engage in jawboning the multinationals that control oil refining and
distribution. That's because his family is neck-deep in the petrol
business, and the higher prices go, the more his family makes.

He's pushing more nuclear power plants. It's criminal that we have so few
nuclear power plants.

Harry, what oil stocks does Bush own. I must not have used the right key
words as I can't find any.


--
If it is Bad for Bush,
It is Good for the United States.




ed June 24th 05 10:03 AM

Actually Jimmy Carter did, he was the one that started the interest in
alternative fuel. Seems like the Republicans who is for the Oil companies
doesnt want to. Just my opinion of course ;o)

Ed
"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...
Why do you think he hasnt put more interest
in alternative fuel ? It would cut down on his profits .


Ed

===

Ed, when has any president put interest in alternative fuel?


Oil is up because Chinese factories are running
generators powered by diesel to run them, since the power grid in China

sucks. You can thank those shopping trips to walmart for the oil prices

being up.

Currently Chinese demand is running oil and steel prices out of
control.

China now buys 40% of the world oil market. Not counting scrap and raw
materials to be turned into goods to come back to us in export sales.

as far as natural recourses go, China is holding the bag, andis
squeezing everybody else's.




ed June 24th 05 10:05 AM

Why do you think the united states hasnt built any new or additional
refineries in the last 30 years ? The reason we are short on gas, is the
fact that we do not have the ability to produce fuel.
"Gordon" wrote in message
...

"ed" wrote in message
...
Bush is reaping in $$ he is a major stock holder in the oil companies, so

he
is happy to see the price go up. Why do you think he hasnt put more

interest
in alternative fuel ? It would cut down on his profits .


Ed,
Remember 1973 and what happened with oil and gas prices? Has any Prez, dem
or rep, done anything since then to cure the problem?
Know why?
Because without an outlet to sell oil, about $90 billion, give or take,
arabs would have nothing. Think terrorism is bad now?
In all reality, a whole lot of nations would be bankrupt and the whole
world would soon be up the old creek without a paddle (boating related
reply).
Gordon





Tim June 24th 05 11:56 AM

Actually Jimmy Carter did, he was the one that started the interest in
alternative fuel. Seems like the Republicans who is for the Oil
companies
doesnt want to. Just my opinion of course ;o)


Ed


*****

Jimmy didn't push very heard....


ed June 24th 05 12:27 PM

Yes he did, if you read up on him, you will see that he was the first one to
make funds available for research and development on it.
"Tim" wrote in message
ups.com...
Actually Jimmy Carter did, he was the one that started the interest in
alternative fuel. Seems like the Republicans who is for the Oil
companies
doesnt want to. Just my opinion of course ;o)


Ed


*****

Jimmy didn't push very heard....




[email protected] June 24th 05 12:54 PM



*JimH* wrote:
Answer my question please. Specifics would be appreciated.


Gee, Jim, you seem to be adamant about people answering your questions,
yet you avoid my questions to you.


[email protected] June 24th 05 12:57 PM



*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
That's:

Bad for Bush
Bad for the US
Bad for boating. :-(

I agree.

And what exactly did Bush have to do with this?


Here you go Jim:
Don't Blame OPEC; Higher Gas Prices Are Almost Entirely Bush's Fault
Dave Lindorff, ILCA Associate Member

What is making oil so expensive is not energy policy or even SUV's,
dangerous as those are for the environment. It's Bush's massive
deficits and his willful destruction of the US dollar that has gas
selling at $2.30 a gallon and rising.



There's been a lot of hand-wringing going on among economists and
politicians, and a lot of fuming at the gas pump by consumers over the
soaring price of oil over the last two years.


Increasingly, concern is being expressed by treasury officials and
economists about the negative impact soaring oil prices and related gas
prices could have on the overall economy. Politicians--especially
Republicans--are also fretting, since the thousands of extra dollars
consumers are now spending on electricity, home heating and gasoline
have, for all but the wealthiest taxpayers, more than cancelled out any
minimal benefits they saw from the president's tax cuts.


What's wrong with this picture?


The focus of all this anger and angst is oil prices. As a result,
everyone is looking at culprits in the wrong place, blaming wasteful
energy use, OPEC production quotas, monopolistic oil companies and/or
conniving oil traders.


In fact the real culprit behind these higher oil prices is the Bush
Administration, which, thanks to its massive deficits and tax
give-aways to the rich and corporations, to its war spending, and to
its failure to combat unprecedented and ever-larger trade deficits, has
been causing the dollar to plunge in value.


Oil is a commodity and it is priced in dollars. If dollars decline in
value, then the price of oil will rise in inverse proportion.


One need only look at Europe to see what this means.


Over the period from February 1, 2003, just before the start of the
Iraq War, when oil prices began to rise in earnest, to Feb. 1, 2005,
the price of a barrel of oil in dollars rose about 30 percent, from
$30.13 a barrel to $42.91 a barrel. But over that same period of time,
the Euro, Europe's new combined currency, rose 21 percent against the
U.S. dollar, from .93 Euros to the dollar in February, 2003 to just .77
to the U.S. dollar in February, 2005.


For Europeans, then, the net rise in oil prices over the two years of
the Iraq War has been just 9 percent, or less than 5 percent per
year--hardly the kind of energy inflation that would cause economic
problems.


And this situation is likely to get only worse. Some Wall Street oil
industry analysts are now predicting that oil could, before too long,
hit $100 a barrel. What they are saying really is that the dollar is
likely to fall in value by 50 percent.


Should that happen, though, the OPEC states would likely at some point
along the way decide that it is ridiculous for them to continue pricing
oil in dollars, since the piles of dollars filling their bank vaults
will be losing value faster than their oil wells are being drained.


At some point, the oil producing states, including Russia and Norway,
will inevitably switch to pricing their oil in a basket of
currencies--a basket that would prominently feature the Euro and
probably the Japanese Yen.


At that point there would be little left to prop up the dollar, and it
could end up becoming little better than a Third World currency.


[email protected] June 24th 05 01:01 PM



*JimH* wrote:


No one ever argued this was not bad for boating, bad for car owners or bad
for Bush.

The point is....how is this Bush's fault?


His huge deficit, while still spending like a drunken sailor has
devalued the dollar.

The ignorant will blame Bush.....thus the "Bad for Bush" mentality.


No, the ignorant will goose step to the party no matter what happens.

The educated know better.


See above.


Jeff Rigby June 24th 05 02:13 PM


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
Jeff Rigby wrote:

Bush has done absolutely nothing to try to ease petrol prices. He doesn't
even engage in jawboning the multinationals that control oil refining and
distribution. That's because his family is neck-deep in the petrol
business, and the higher prices go, the more his family makes.


Harry, what oil stocks does Bush own. I must not have used the right key
words as I can't find any.


I used the key word Bush (this would apply to his family also) and no Hits
with OIL other than the old news where he lost money. The Senior Bushes
(grandparents) were involved in producing equipment for oil fields and
railroads. Bush senior was involved with Zapita oil exploration but it's
speculated that Zapita was a CIA front.


"his family is neck-deep in the petrol ????????????????? Is this
true????????????
business, and the higher prices go, the more his family makes."

If it is Bad for Bush,
It is Good for the United States.




Jeff Rigby June 24th 05 02:21 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...


*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
That's:

Bad for Bush
Bad for the US
Bad for boating. :-(

I agree.

And what exactly did Bush have to do with this?


Here you go Jim:
Don't Blame OPEC; Higher Gas Prices Are Almost Entirely Bush's Fault
Dave Lindorff, ILCA Associate Member

What is making oil so expensive is not energy policy or even SUV's,
dangerous as those are for the environment. It's Bush's massive
deficits and his willful destruction of the US dollar that has gas
selling at $2.30 a gallon and rising.



There's been a lot of hand-wringing going on among economists and
politicians, and a lot of fuming at the gas pump by consumers over the
soaring price of oil over the last two years.


Increasingly, concern is being expressed by treasury officials and
economists about the negative impact soaring oil prices and related gas
prices could have on the overall economy. Politicians--especially
Republicans--are also fretting, since the thousands of extra dollars
consumers are now spending on electricity, home heating and gasoline
have, for all but the wealthiest taxpayers, more than cancelled out any
minimal benefits they saw from the president's tax cuts.


What's wrong with this picture?


The focus of all this anger and angst is oil prices. As a result,
everyone is looking at culprits in the wrong place, blaming wasteful
energy use, OPEC production quotas, monopolistic oil companies and/or
conniving oil traders.


In fact the real culprit behind these higher oil prices is the Bush
Administration, which, thanks to its massive deficits and tax
give-aways to the rich and corporations, to its war spending, and to
its failure to combat unprecedented and ever-larger trade deficits, has
been causing the dollar to plunge in value.


Oil is a commodity and it is priced in dollars. If dollars decline in
value, then the price of oil will rise in inverse proportion.


One need only look at Europe to see what this means.


Over the period from February 1, 2003, just before the start of the
Iraq War, when oil prices began to rise in earnest, to Feb. 1, 2005,
the price of a barrel of oil in dollars rose about 30 percent, from
$30.13 a barrel to $42.91 a barrel. But over that same period of time,
the Euro, Europe's new combined currency, rose 21 percent against the
U.S. dollar, from .93 Euros to the dollar in February, 2003 to just .77
to the U.S. dollar in February, 2005.


For Europeans, then, the net rise in oil prices over the two years of
the Iraq War has been just 9 percent, or less than 5 percent per
year--hardly the kind of energy inflation that would cause economic
problems.


And this situation is likely to get only worse. Some Wall Street oil
industry analysts are now predicting that oil could, before too long,
hit $100 a barrel. What they are saying really is that the dollar is
likely to fall in value by 50 percent.


Should that happen, though, the OPEC states would likely at some point
along the way decide that it is ridiculous for them to continue pricing
oil in dollars, since the piles of dollars filling their bank vaults
will be losing value faster than their oil wells are being drained.


At some point, the oil producing states, including Russia and Norway,
will inevitably switch to pricing their oil in a basket of
currencies--a basket that would prominently feature the Euro and
probably the Japanese Yen.


At that point there would be little left to prop up the dollar, and it
could end up becoming little better than a Third World currency.


The above is scary and most likely true except for one point. The current
increase in prices (not the ones cited over the last two years, they are
most likely the result of the dropping value of the dollar) is probably due
to supply/demand issues as China, India and other developing third world
countries make their needs known on the world market for oil.



Tim June 24th 05 02:34 PM




His huge deficit, while still spending like a drunken sailor has
devalued the dollar.


You mean, like the democrat hero FDR did during the great depression?



No, the ignorant will goose step to the party no matter what happens.
The educated know better.


Man. are you hardcore, or what?

"Goos stepping??? LOFL!!


Tim June 24th 05 02:36 PM

Oh man, ...I guess we should have elected Kerry or Gore. then it would
all be better...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!


Tim June 24th 05 02:37 PM

after all, Kerry had a ..."plan"

uh-huh


[email protected] June 24th 05 02:44 PM



Tim wrote:
His huge deficit, while still spending like a drunken sailor has
devalued the dollar.


You mean, like the democrat hero FDR did during the great depression?



No, the ignorant will goose step to the party no matter what happens.
The educated know better.


Man. are you hardcore, or what?

"Goos stepping??? LOFL!!


That would be GOOSE stepping!!! LOFL!!!


*JimH* June 24th 05 02:52 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...


Tim wrote:
His huge deficit, while still spending like a drunken sailor has
devalued the dollar.


You mean, like the democrat hero FDR did during the great depression?



No, the ignorant will goose step to the party no matter what happens.
The educated know better.


Man. are you hardcore, or what?

"Goos stepping??? LOFL!!


That would be GOOSE stepping!!! LOFL!!!


Making fun of a spelling error Kevin? Is this the standard we should hold
you to?

I have read your 20 or so contributions you posted here this morning and
most involved putting people down, name calling and generally fighting with
folks. You also started an OT thread and used the words "republican pigs"
in the title. Why the inflammatory words and what did that post have to do
with boating (claims you made against others this week)?

Live by the standards *you* set Kevin and perhaps folks here will start to
respect you.



Doug Kanter June 24th 05 03:37 PM


"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...
That's:

Bad for Bush
Bad for the US
Bad for boating. :-(

I agree.

And what exactly did Bush have to do with this?


Well....if you're over the age of maybe 18, you may have noticed that prices
of most, if not all investments are subject to the mood of the investors. If
there's freezing weather in Florida, orange juice futures may crank up in
price. Your president created a similar situation in the Middle East, which
has affected investors in oil. The issue is definitely NOT supply. It's
perception. If you president had not fiddled in places he did not belong,
it's highly likely we would not be seeing such high oil prices.



[email protected] June 24th 05 05:11 PM



*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...


Tim wrote:
His huge deficit, while still spending like a drunken sailor has
devalued the dollar.


You mean, like the democrat hero FDR did during the great depression?



No, the ignorant will goose step to the party no matter what happens.
The educated know better.


Man. are you hardcore, or what?

"Goos stepping??? LOFL!!


That would be GOOSE stepping!!! LOFL!!!


Making fun of a spelling error Kevin? Is this the standard we should hold
you to?


Well, you see, Jim, someone was flaming ME, what's good for the goose,
is good for the gander.

I have read your 20 or so contributions you posted here this morning and
most involved putting people down, name calling and generally fighting with
folks. You also started an OT thread and used the words "republican pigs"
in the title. Why the inflammatory words and what did that post have to do
with boating (claims you made against others this week)?


The only people who I have put down are the one's who've put me down.
When in Rome, as they say.

Live by the standards *you* set Kevin and perhaps folks here will start to
respect you.


I'm not Kevin. I wish that you had enough damned brains to get that
straight. Will you be man enough to apologize when you find that out?
I'll bet not. You aren't man enough to keep your word, or man enough to
do anything but lie, deceive, and alter what people have posted.


[email protected] June 24th 05 05:14 PM



Doug Kanter wrote:
"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...
That's:

Bad for Bush
Bad for the US
Bad for boating. :-(

I agree.

And what exactly did Bush have to do with this?


Well....if you're over the age of maybe 18, you may have noticed that prices
of most, if not all investments are subject to the mood of the investors.


JimH isn't anywhere near 18 mentally. Just look at his childish posts.


*JimH* June 24th 05 05:20 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...


Doug Kanter wrote:
"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...
That's:

Bad for Bush
Bad for the US
Bad for boating. :-(

I agree.

And what exactly did Bush have to do with this?


Well....if you're over the age of maybe 18, you may have noticed that
prices
of most, if not all investments are subject to the mood of the investors.


JimH isn't anywhere near 18 mentally. Just look at his childish posts.


Another insult. Is this all you are capable of posting?



[email protected] June 24th 05 05:58 PM



*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...


Doug Kanter wrote:
"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...
That's:

Bad for Bush
Bad for the US
Bad for boating. :-(

I agree.

And what exactly did Bush have to do with this?


Well....if you're over the age of maybe 18, you may have noticed that
prices
of most, if not all investments are subject to the mood of the investors.


JimH isn't anywhere near 18 mentally. Just look at his childish posts.


Another insult.


Yes. If I keep insulting you, I may possibly get equal to the amount of
**** you've slung my way. Grow up.
Is this all you are capable of posting?


No. But, alas, you asked a specific question about why someone would
think it's Bush's fault for the oil prices, I posted a very valid
reason, and I get no response. Why? Because I'm right, and you're like
a little kid taking your ball home. Grow up.


[email protected] June 24th 05 06:00 PM



Tim wrote:
Oh man, ...I guess we should have elected Kerry or Gore. then it would
all be better...

Absolutely. We wouldn't be in this mess with Iraq, for one.


*JimH* June 24th 05 06:06 PM


wrote in message
ups.com...


*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...


Doug Kanter wrote:
"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...
That's:

Bad for Bush
Bad for the US
Bad for boating. :-(

I agree.

And what exactly did Bush have to do with this?


Well....if you're over the age of maybe 18, you may have noticed that
prices
of most, if not all investments are subject to the mood of the
investors.

JimH isn't anywhere near 18 mentally. Just look at his childish posts.


Another insult.


Yes. If I keep insulting you, I may possibly get equal to the amount of
**** you've slung my way. Grow up.



Is this all you are capable of posting?



No. But, alas, you asked a specific question about why someone would
think it's Bush's fault for the oil prices, I posted a very valid
reason, and I get no response.


Valid reason? Bzzzzzzzzz....wrong. That cut an paste of yours deserved
no response. But if you care to believe it, more power to you Kevin.


Why? Because I'm right, and you're like
a little kid taking your ball home. Grow up.


A tongue lashing from Kevin the village idiot. I will always remember this
day.



Don White June 24th 05 06:37 PM

Argyle wrote:

Currently Chinese demand is running oil and steel prices out of
control.

China now buys 40% of the world oil market. Not counting scrap and raw
materials to be turned into goods to come back to us in export sales.

as far as natural recourses go, China is holding the bag, andis
squeezing everybody else's.



I should have also mentioned the pipe industry is booming in China. They
have to transport oil from the inside of the country to the populated areas
and for export.

We aren't talking about 8" or 12" welded tube lines, we are talking about
24" and larger.


When I was pricing a new galvanized sailboat trailer last fall, the
salesman blamed the Chinese for his increases in price.


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