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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


Most of the union guys I know, guys my age who never had the
opportunities college offers and who worked physical labor for 40 years,
also speak English better than Bush. And read it better, too.

This is even spookier: All the news sources interview people from China and
other countries whose languages are as much like English as potatoes are
like celery. They all surpass Bush in their command of our language. The
sheep here will respond that the news media CHOOSE people to interview based
on their ability to communicate, but that's a silly argument. I don't care
if someone from Beijing had the richest parents on earth and attended all
the best schools. They still grew up in Beijing, while Bush grew up (?)
here. What a joke.

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On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 03:04:32 +0000, John Smith wrote:

Bill,
I did not know Kerry accused the soldiers of raping, stealing and killing
innocent soldiers.


I don't know that he ever did. In his congressional testimony, he
referred to soldiers who had confessed to war crimes at the Winter Soldier
Investigation. He did not accuse soldiers of war crimes. If you read the
complete transcript, he comes across as a well spoken, young man.


http://www.pbs.org/greatspeeches/tim...j_kerry_s.html

http://www.cwes01.com/13790/23910/ktpp179-210.pdf

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"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

"Don" wrote in message news:Lwkic.2529
I would call them criminals.

Thank you.
The rest of your whining tripe was snipped....post haste.




So, to summarize -- I am a dikhed.

Sure, whatever you say.

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"Don" wrote in message news:_vGic.2798

So, to summarize -- I am a dikhed.

Sure, whatever you say.


So, Don, what are your plans after high school?

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"Don" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Don" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Don" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
nk.net...

"John Smith" wrote in message
news:ICgic.12715$w96.1193378@attbi_s54...
you tell him Don, you got him on the run.


"Don" wrote in message
...

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 12:22:08 -0400, "Don"

wrote:


"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...

"Don" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote
At least Bush served. More than a lot of politco's
and
union
head's
sons
did.

As if that's a good thing.
The militaries take advantage of youthful naivete and
most
of
them
get
out
after their first term.
If you had *served* you would already know this.

Based upon the new Democrat philosophy if you didn't
serve
in
the
military
you have no right to quesiton those that did.

I am not a Democrat and I will question whatever I
choose.

So, did you serve in the
military?

Four years, 75th Ranger Bn.

Bull****. Rangers display more sense.

You're just jealous.





With the statements about raping, stealing, killing innocents.
He
is
both
an idiot and sounds like a J. Kerry clone.

Kerry is almost as stupid as you are.



Kerry is nowhere as intelligent as I am. A slimeball, he is. Sort
of
like
you.

You seem like a punk....and you want to be like Kerry.



Seems like you are the Kerry clone. To much Agent Orange? You base
your
perception of all the soldiers in VN on your actions?

If you want to act like a yammering 5 y.o. Bill, I'm going to stand you in
the corner.
Straighten up.



Are you basskisser's brother?

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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message

You two make a great M.A.S.

You need no input from the rest.

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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message


Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be using the Texas thing as an
excuse for your leader sounding like a dolt. That's an insult to the rest
of
Texas. Are you sure that's what you want to imply?


You're wrong. I'm damn sure of what I want to imply, when I want to imply
anything.

I use "... the Texas thing..." (as you so quaintly put it) as an example
simply of why GW doesn't sound like another New England Prep School Kennedy
clone. You seem to be implying that anyone who doesn't do the Kerry/Kennedy
impersonation sounds like a dolt. Are you sure that's what you want to
imply? :-)

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I didn't think it was possible for someone to be dumber than Basskisser, but
Don has done it.

Be careful not to take anything of his, because the law requires him to shot
you in the face.


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Don" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Don" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Don" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
nk.net...

"John Smith" wrote in message
news:ICgic.12715$w96.1193378@attbi_s54...
you tell him Don, you got him on the run.


"Don" wrote in message
...

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 12:22:08 -0400, "Don"

wrote:


"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...

"Don" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote
At least Bush served. More than a lot of
politco's
and
union
head's
sons
did.

As if that's a good thing.
The militaries take advantage of youthful naivete
and
most
of
them
get
out
after their first term.
If you had *served* you would already know this.

Based upon the new Democrat philosophy if you didn't
serve
in
the
military
you have no right to quesiton those that did.

I am not a Democrat and I will question whatever I
choose.

So, did you serve in the
military?

Four years, 75th Ranger Bn.

Bull****. Rangers display more sense.

You're just jealous.





With the statements about raping, stealing, killing innocents.
He
is
both
an idiot and sounds like a J. Kerry clone.

Kerry is almost as stupid as you are.



Kerry is nowhere as intelligent as I am. A slimeball, he is.
Sort
of
like
you.

You seem like a punk....and you want to be like Kerry.



Seems like you are the Kerry clone. To much Agent Orange? You base
your
perception of all the soldiers in VN on your actions?

If you want to act like a yammering 5 y.o. Bill, I'm going to stand you
in
the corner.
Straighten up.



Are you basskisser's brother?

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"John Gaquin" wrote in message ...
"Jim" wrote in message news:OZxhc.2126

http://www.johnkerry.com/about/military_records.html

You know, the silly thing about all this records flap is that some of the
records are meaningless if you don't know how to interpret them.

snip

The other thing about FitReps that bears understanding is the fact that they
were not necessarily objective. In the military of the fifties and sixties,
and into the seventies, any evaluative mark less than "outstanding" was a
potential career breaker. A rating of Excellent to Outstanding could have
meant that you were Excellent to Outstanding, or it could have meant that,
while not particularly valuable, you were a nice guy to have around, and
were not a danger to anyone.

I was discussing this with my wife as the same thing happened in the
80s. When I was in the Air Force, airman performance reports had
rating from 1 to 9. "9" being the top. I don't recall how many
catagories there were but getting all 9s was pretty much the norm. It
was not uncommon in my unit for supervisor to have an APR sent back if
he/she gave a subordanate more the one "8" on an APR. Nobody I ever
worked with, got a 7 anywhere.

Contrast that to reviews we do in the large corporate environment
where I work now. We have "DN" Does not meet requirements, "IN"
Imrpovement needed, "M" Meets expectations, "VE" Very Effective, and
"E" Exceeds Expectations. If you show up for work and do you job
you'll get all "M"s from me. When I as in the Air Force that would
get you "all nines" (which was not uncommon at all).

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On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 22:59:05 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

How do you know, with 100% accuracy, that he did NOT witness the things he
claimed? After all, there was the My Lai incident, right? Or, like people
who deny that the holocaust happened, do you not believe the reports of THAT
atrocity?

"John Smith" wrote in message
news:MNBic.16007$cF6.641627@attbi_s04...
Doug,
You are correct, but Kerry should have know better, since he was a Viet
Nam
vet. While there were a few loose cannons over there, the vast majority
were kids scared ****less, who wanted to come with everything attached.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"John Smith" wrote in message
news:4Pkic.11245$cF6.487216@attbi_s04...
Bill,
I did not know Kerry accused the soldiers of raping, stealing and
killing
innocent soldiers. I don't agree with Kerry, but I thought he was
smarter
than that.

I think it's safe to say that due to tensions and emotions running high,
quite a few people made blanket judgements of certain groups in the late
1960s and early 1970s, like soldiers and cops. There's no reason to
think
Kerry was different from everyone else in this regard. I know *I* had
some
unsavory things to say about the police after witnessing what the
Chicago
cops did in 1968. But, at the same time, my own interactions with them
were
nothing but good, even though I had VERY long hair and looked like
someone
the cops enjoyed beating on.

Footnote:
My WORST experience was when I was pulled over by a NY State trooper for
doing 90 in a 55 zone in my screaming yellow 1970 Cougar. For some
reason,
he didn't ticket me. But, he harrassed me mercilessly for having an
automatic instead of a Hurst shifter. My BEST experience was while
hitchhiking from Syracuse to the Canadian border. Trooper pulled over. I
said "If this is how my trip's beginning, I'll just walk". I turned
around
to get off the entrance ramp. He said "I'm offering you a ride". He
asked
if
I had any drugs on me. I said no. He said "OK"....get in. I asked him
how
fast the car would go before feeling shaky. He showed me. We completed a
100
mile trip in about an hour and three minutes. Great fun. Turned out we
had
the same philosophy professor - he was in night school. Discussed Sartre
for
most of the trip. So much for stereotypes.

Doug, if you witness a murder, are you not going to report it? He was an
officer! If he witnessed war crimes, he had two courses of action to take: stop
them and report them so appropriate action could be taken.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

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On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 00:30:33 -0400, "John Gaquin"
wrote:


"Don" wrote in message news:_vGic.2798

So, to summarize -- I am a dikhed.

Sure, whatever you say.


So, Don, what are your plans after high school?


Uhhh, high school? He should start that in about two years. I think he's
planning now on what to do with puberty when it hits.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

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"Calif Bill" wrote
If you want to act like a yammering 5 y.o. Bill, I'm going to stand you
in
the corner.
Straighten up.

Are you basskisser's brother?

You have the mindset of child so I will now stand you in the corner, for
reflection.
You will then occupy my monitor AFTER such a time as I deem appropriate.

Buh-bye.

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"John Smith" wrote in message
news:9FHic.25624$w96.1927586@attbi_s54...
I didn't think it was possible for someone to be dumber than Basskisser,
but
Don has done it.

Be careful not to take anything of his, because the law requires him to
shot
you in the face.

Most children learn the difference between *shoot* and *shot* when they are
about 8 years old.
What's your excuse?

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Don wrote:

"John Smith" wrote in message
news:9FHic.25624$w96.1927586@attbi_s54...

I didn't think it was possible for someone to be dumber than Basskisser,

but

Don has done it.

Be careful not to take anything of his, because the law requires him to

shot

you in the face.


Most children learn the difference between *shoot* and *shot* when they are
about 8 years old.
What's your excuse?



Most of the righties here have low-level language skills. It's part of
being a card-carrying RepubliBORG.

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"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message


Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be using the Texas thing as an
excuse for your leader sounding like a dolt. That's an insult to the
rest
of
Texas. Are you sure that's what you want to imply?


You're wrong. I'm damn sure of what I want to imply, when I want to imply
anything.

I use "... the Texas thing..." (as you so quaintly put it) as an example
simply of why GW doesn't sound like another New England Prep School
Kennedy
clone. You seem to be implying that anyone who doesn't do the
Kerry/Kennedy
impersonation sounds like a dolt. Are you sure that's what you want to
imply? :-)



Regional accents are like regional cuisine and music: Without them, this
would be a pretty boring country. But, we're not talking about accents.
We're talking about two different things. A person from Oklahoma may
pronounce "fence" in a way that sounds as if the word has two syllables, or
like "fancy" without the "y", but it's still a fence. This doesn't make them
illiterate, and it doesn't matter whether they sound like a Kennedy. But,
when a person says "Is our children learning?", or several hundred other
GRAMMATICAL gaffs, it's clear he is not fit for public office. "Most of our
imports come from overseas". Zzzz....

Get it? You're talking about accents, and I'm talking about grammar. If you
are saying that being from Texas excuses a person's hideous grammar, you are
insulting the entire state of Texas.

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"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message

You two make a great M.A.S.

You need no input from the rest.



You're very good at this, John. You never address the issues when the issue
at hand places you in a pool of quicksand. Care to explain why someone from
Kazakhstan has a better command of the English language than your leader?
Remember - we're talking about the leader of the world's most powerful
country, someone who should be able to communicate clearly 110% of the time,
without a script.

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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message

.....You're talking about accents, and I'm talking about grammar.

No, you're missing my point, Doug. You're attributing grammatical or
structural mis-speaks to rank ignorance, but I disagree. I say they
predominantly arise from insecurity and self-consciousness in [mostly]
ex-temp public speaking.

His recent press conference is a case in point. I saw a room full of
professional wordsmiths and stand-up reporters doing their utmost to
embarrass and humiliate the President of the US. These guys are all
building their careers on the ease with which they can make a bad speaker
look uneasy. I think we may be only a short time from the day when some
petty little s#*t like Terry Moran will stand up and say "Mr. President,
don't you think you were a fool to say that......"

When reading a prepared text GW does much better -- still not
"right-at-home", but I don't think it's a major issue. As I've said
elsewhere, we recently had eight years of one of the finest ex-temp speakers
ever to inhabit the WH, thus proving conclusively that the ability to speak
off the cuff does not necessarily bring with it a man of character and
integrity.

Unless you have had occasion to have private, off record conversations with
Mr. Bush, neither of us can resolve this question.

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"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message

.....You're talking about accents, and I'm talking about grammar.

No, you're missing my point, Doug. You're attributing grammatical or
structural mis-speaks to rank ignorance, but I disagree. I say they
predominantly arise from insecurity and self-consciousness in [mostly]
ex-temp public speaking.

Insecurity? Just the sort of guy I want in charge of an arsenal of nuclear
weapons.


His recent press conference is a case in point. I saw a room full of
professional wordsmiths and stand-up reporters doing their utmost to
embarrass and humiliate the President of the US.

Exactly how were they trying to do that to him?


When reading a prepared text GW does much better -- still not
"right-at-home", but I don't think it's a major issue.

I guess I look at it from the standpoint of an employer, so to me, it IS a
major issue.

As I've said
elsewhere, we recently had eight years of one of the finest ex-temp
speakers
ever to inhabit the WH, thus proving conclusively that the ability to
speak
off the cuff does not necessarily bring with it a man of character and
integrity.

I'm not connecting speaking ability with integrity. I'm connecting it (and
now, your "insecurity" suggestion) with competence. If Nookular Boy
considers a press conference to be a challenge, how will he behave when a
general tears into his office to say a half dozen missiles have been
launched toward the U.S. from someplace on the other side of the world?
Remember - missiles from Russia to here, or vice versa, make the trip in
about 20 minutes. Scary thought, with a president who, based on your
diagnosis, didn't even feel secure speaking to a group of elementary school
kids.

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"Don" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote
If you want to act like a yammering 5 y.o. Bill, I'm going to stand
you
in
the corner.
Straighten up.

Are you basskisser's brother?

You have the mindset of child so I will now stand you in the corner, for
reflection.
You will then occupy my monitor AFTER such a time as I deem appropriate.

Buh-bye.



Did you get into your brother's stash?

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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message

Insecurity? Just the sort of guy I want in charge of an arsenal of nuclear
weapons.

Insecurity in public speaking. That's what I said, and you know that. Why
do you deliberately try to alter the frame of discussion? Do you and Harry
come from the same family? Same schools? Same background? Whatever. You
both refuse to stay on track. You alter the clear meaning of posted
statements to make petty points; you insist on using puerile, insulting
terms to refer to the President, and continuously to other posters. These
are Jr. High school tactics. I can't talk to you anymore -- there are
enough adults in this world demanding my attention. Perhaps JohnH can pick
it up. He's accustomed to dealing with pre-teen tactics.

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On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 16:33:33 -0400, "John Gaquin"
wrote:


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message

Insecurity? Just the sort of guy I want in charge of an arsenal of nuclear
weapons.

Insecurity in public speaking. That's what I said, and you know that. Why
do you deliberately try to alter the frame of discussion? Do you and Harry
come from the same family? Same schools? Same background? Whatever. You
both refuse to stay on track. You alter the clear meaning of posted
statements to make petty points; you insist on using puerile, insulting
terms to refer to the President, and continuously to other posters. These
are Jr. High school tactics. I can't talk to you anymore -- there are
enough adults in this world demanding my attention. Perhaps JohnH can pick
it up. He's accustomed to dealing with pre-teen tactics.

I have been trying hard to treat Doug as an adult. Harry is beyond hope. He is
now engaging in another adolescent behavior - making up his own vocabulary and
try to inculcate same into discussions.

It's difficult, and I'll probably give up soon.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

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"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message

Insecurity? Just the sort of guy I want in charge of an arsenal of
nuclear
weapons.

Insecurity in public speaking. That's what I said, and you know that.
Why
do you deliberately try to alter the frame of discussion? Do you and
Harry
come from the same family? Same schools? Same background? Whatever.
You
both refuse to stay on track. You alter the clear meaning of posted
statements to make petty points; you insist on using puerile, insulting
terms to refer to the President, and continuously to other posters. These
are Jr. High school tactics. I can't talk to you anymore -- there are
enough adults in this world demanding my attention. Perhaps JohnH can
pick
it up. He's accustomed to dealing with pre-teen tactics.

If I'm afraid to drive over 40mph, would you hire me to fly a private jet?

If I fall apart speaking in front of a 3rd grade classroom, would you hire
me to a public relations guy for your company, to speak to Wall Street
representatives at your stockholder meetings?

Believe it or not, you can extrapolate from one disability and predict a
person's performance in certain situations.

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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message

If I'm afraid to drive over 40mph, would you hire me to fly a private jet?

Having done both, I can tell you one has nothing to do with the other.


If I fall apart speaking in front of a 3rd grade classroom,

I don't believe this happened -- you are once more mis-stating a
circumstance.


Believe it or not, you can extrapolate from one disability and predict a
person's performance in certain situations.

What disability is it that makes you call people insulting names?

I am done.

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John Gaquin wrote:

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message

Insecurity? Just the sort of guy I want in charge of an arsenal of nuclear
weapons.


Insecurity in public speaking. That's what I said, and you know that.

There's enough been written about Bush to give all of us feelings of
insecurity. The guy is a simple-minded doofus.

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John Gaquin wrote:

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message

If I'm afraid to drive over 40mph, would you hire me to fly a private jet?


Having done both, I can tell you one has nothing to do with the other.



If I fall apart speaking in front of a 3rd grade classroom,


I don't believe this happened -- you are once more mis-stating a
circumstance.



Believe it or not, you can extrapolate from one disability and predict a
person's performance in certain situations.


What disability is it that makes you call people insulting names?


What disability is it that makes you want to rationalize away the
endless and dangerous shortcomings of Bush?

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"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message

If I'm afraid to drive over 40mph, would you hire me to fly a private
jet?

Having done both, I can tell you one has nothing to do with the other.


If I fall apart speaking in front of a 3rd grade classroom,

I don't believe this happened -- you are once more mis-stating a
circumstance.

A few of his published verbal disastes took place in classrooms. Look them
up - there are plenty of web sites which post these things.


Believe it or not, you can extrapolate from one disability and predict a
person's performance in certain situations.

What disability is it that makes you call people insulting names?

Which insulting name are you referring to? Are you referring to Nookular
Boy?


I am done.

Didn't you say earlier that you were tired of this? You came back, like the
sole bluegill that returns 183 times in an hour for the same nightcrawler.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don wrote:

"John Smith" wrote in message
news:9FHic.25624$w96.1927586@attbi_s54...

I didn't think it was possible for someone to be dumber than Basskisser,

but

Don has done it.

Be careful not to take anything of his, because the law requires him to

shot

you in the face.


Most children learn the difference between *shoot* and *shot* when they
are
about 8 years old.
What's your excuse?



Most of the righties here have low-level language skills. It's part of
being a card-carrying RepubliBORG.

sigh
It's not a matter of right or left.
It's a matter of *belonging*.
Many people today find it stylish to *belong* to one group or another,
because they have no self esteem.
They realize they are worthless and cling deperately to any kind of identity
that will offer them some semblence of emotional support.
They have no sense of self identity, no self worth.

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"Doug Kanter" wrote
Regional accents are like regional cuisine and music: Without them, this
would be a pretty boring country.

You've been reading too many socialist newspapers.
Life is boring if you make it so, it has nothing to do with anyone else.

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"Doug Kanter" wrote
Insecurity? Just the sort of guy I want in charge of an arsenal of nuclear
weapons.

Why in the hell do you want anyone in charge of that stuff?

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Don wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Don wrote:


"John Smith" wrote in message
news:9FHic.25624$w96.1927586@attbi_s54...


I didn't think it was possible for someone to be dumber than Basskisser,

but


Don has done it.

Be careful not to take anything of his, because the law requires him to

shot


you in the face.


Most children learn the difference between *shoot* and *shot* when they

are

about 8 years old.
What's your excuse?



Most of the righties here have low-level language skills. It's part of
being a card-carrying RepubliBORG.


sigh
It's not a matter of right or left.
It's a matter of *belonging*.
Many people today find it stylish to *belong* to one group or another,
because they have no self esteem.
They realize they are worthless and cling deperately to any kind of identity
that will offer them some semblence of emotional support.
They have no sense of self identity, no self worth.




I'm not sure your posit conflicts with mine. Most of the RepubliBORG who
post here have poor written language skills. Or are you saying that
writing as if one were nearly functionally illiterate helps one identify
with Bush...

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"John Gaquin" wrote
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
Insecurity? Just the sort of guy I want in charge of an arsenal of
nuclear
weapons.

Insecurity in public speaking.

There was a time when a man spoke his mind, and his mind was clear.
But those days are long gone.
Lately it has become standard operating procedure for a man to repeat what
he has been told, by many others, whether he believes it or not.
That is why he must read a teleprompter, to keep track of all things he is
supposed to say.
These men of late are hollow, they have no core values. They are easily lead
by others and then are presented as mere mouthpieces, and poor ones they
are.
What we're talking about here is a conscience and an ideal. If a man has
these things he needs no teleprompter for he speaks what he knows rather
than what he has been told.
How anyone can waste their time in a voting booth these days is an enigma to
me.

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"Don" wrote in message
...
"Doug Kanter" wrote
Insecurity? Just the sort of guy I want in charge of an arsenal of
nuclear
weapons.

Why in the hell do you want anyone in charge of that stuff?

Let me make sure I understand which question you're asking. I think it's #1,
but....

1) Why should anyone be in charge of something nobody should have to begin
with?

or

2) We *should* have these weapons, but nobody should be in charge of them?

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"Don" wrote in message
...
"Doug Kanter" wrote
Regional accents are like regional cuisine and music: Without them, this
would be a pretty boring country.

You've been reading too many socialist newspapers.
Life is boring if you make it so, it has nothing to do with anyone else.



Oh boy. Socialist newspapers are somehow connected with linguistic and
culinary variety? Are you talking about a publication like Conde Nast
Traveller?

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"John Gaquin" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message

.....You're talking about accents, and I'm talking about grammar.

No, you're missing my point, Doug. You're attributing grammatical or
structural mis-speaks to rank ignorance, but I disagree. I say they
predominantly arise from insecurity and self-consciousness in [mostly]
ex-temp public speaking.

His recent press conference is a case in point. I saw a room full of
professional wordsmiths and stand-up reporters doing their utmost to
embarrass and humiliate the President of the US. These guys are all
building their careers on the ease with which they can make a bad
speaker
look uneasy. I think we may be only a short time from the day when some
petty little s#*t like Terry Moran will stand up and say "Mr. President,
don't you think you were a fool to say that......"

When reading a prepared text GW does much better -- still not
"right-at-home", but I don't think it's a major issue. As I've said
elsewhere, we recently had eight years of one of the finest ex-temp
speakers
ever to inhabit the WH, thus proving conclusively that the ability to
speak
off the cuff does not necessarily bring with it a man of character and
integrity.

Unless you have had occasion to have private, off record conversations
with
Mr. Bush, neither of us can resolve this question.

Was in a room with him for a half hour (during the campaign) and spoke
with him for a brief second or two. You are absolutely correct.....the
moment the cameras were turned on, and the microphone was shoved in his
face, he changed........even then, I recall the media types hanging around
making the 'stupid' remarks.

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Doug Kanter wrote:

"Don" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote

Regional accents are like regional cuisine and music: Without them, this
would be a pretty boring country.

You've been reading too many socialist newspapers.
Life is boring if you make it so, it has nothing to do with anyone else.




Oh boy. Socialist newspapers are somehow connected with linguistic and
culinary variety? Are you talking about a publication like Conde Nast
Traveller?




I think he means the Conde Nast Fellow Traveller.

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Calif Bill wrote:
John Kerry was insulting to my brother who did 2 tours in country as a
Seabee. Kerry came home and called the soldiers in VN: raping, stealing,
killing innocents soldiers.

I don't think that's true. I have looked for real quotes from him from
that time frame, and while he was outspoken against the war, he did not
make these kinds of statemensts.

Of course, the pro-Bush campaign has spent millions of dollars to
convince everybody that he *did* say things like that. Is that as good
as the truth, as far as you're concerned?

DSK

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It's pointless and less than appropriate to debate the VN war on rec boats.

For students of history in search of additional information about the Phoenix
progam here are some links.

http://www.thememoryhole.org/phoenix/

http://www.serendipity.li/cia/operation_phoenix.htm

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"John Gaquin" wrote in message I can't talk to you anymore -- there are
enough adults in this world demanding my attention. Perhaps JohnH can pick
it up. He's accustomed to dealing with pre-teen tactics.

And he's proven that he likes photographs of pre-teen's also.

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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Don" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote
Insecurity? Just the sort of guy I want in charge of an arsenal of
nuclear
weapons.

Why in the hell do you want anyone in charge of that stuff?

Let me make sure I understand which question you're asking. I think it's
#1,
but....

1) Why should anyone be in charge of something nobody should have to begin
with?

Anybody should have anything they want, no one should be in charge of what
people have.

or

2) We *should* have these weapons, but nobody should be in charge of them?

Aside from the *we* part, yes.
I am not a *we* and neither are you, and I don't possess those things.