On Tue, 31 May 2005 01:23:01 GMT, Don White
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 30 May 2005 23:08:12 GMT, "Butch Davis"
wrote:


Kedge it off?


Hmmm - that might work. You'd need a heavy block and tackle set up
for a 23' boat though. Six/seven rove block at least.

Now that I think about it, that's as good a way as any. In particular
if you could use a truck to pull it up against the anchor.

Have to be a big anchor though if it's grounded.

Not a bad idea though.

Who said..'give me a big enough lever & I'll move the world'?

Some guy who drank a lot of beer?

Later,

Tom

Drop down to the nearest Boy Scout shop and borrow or buy a Sky Hook.

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On Mon, 30 May 2005 16:23:43 GMT, "rcoleman"
wrote:

Out goofing around yesterday, and found a 23' sailboat high and dry, maybe
15yds from a navigable creek. I'm guessing it could be dragged over the
marsh and into the water, but even with a really high lunar tide, it's going
to take some force. There isn't anything across from it to secure a winch,
and the creek isn't deep enough to get a big boat in to drag it off.

Any idea how I can do this?

A few ideas come to mind.

Cut a channel from the boat to the creek with a backhoe or dig it
yourself - fifteen yards isn't that far.

Cut it up into little pieces, move them, then reassemble them where
you want it.

Rent a skycrane to move it.

Ignore it and get on with your life.

Depending on how wide the creek is, you could put a truck on the
opposite side, install a drag line on a five rove block&tackle and
just pull it into the creek. This is probably how I would do it
assuming there is access to the other side of the creek.

Ironically I want to float it to another location and beach it there.

Which begs the question, why? :)

Later,

Tom

On Mon, 30 May 2005 22:10:35 +0000, rcoleman wrote:


If I had something to anchor a winch to, I could see it,
but I can't sink a 20 ft piling on the opposite side of the creek.

Perhaps an auger anchor?

http://www.for-sale-online.net/offic...nchor-kit.html

Thanks for all of the ideas. To give you a few more details, Gene, you will
know the place, the boat is beached on Masonboro island. Ocean on one side,
creeks and marsh on the other. Reachable only by boat. It is public land,
and the boat is on the creek side. As I said before, about 15 yards from a
navigable creek. It wasn't put there on purpose; likely it broke from its
mooring and drifted there on its own. It is a bit of a mystery because we
didn't have any storm surges that you would expect capable of putting it
there, but there it is. It would appear fairly recently stranded from the
condition, and someone has stripped her of mast, tackle and rigging. At this
point, from my limited understanding of salvage law, I'd say she's fair
game. She'll float I believe, hull looks intact, but putting her right would
be quite an undertaking. My desire is to refloat her, take her up river to
another island on the Cape Fear, pull her up on that island, and use it like
a ersatz camper. Crazy, stupid, insane? sure, just like I like things. And
it will make a great story. So what the hell.

But it is an intellectual challenge nonetheless. All the equipment to do the
job must be readily available, at little cost, and must fit on a 18ft boat
to make it up the creek. So no cranes, helicopters, or elephants. And it
must be a simple plan, because yes, there will be much drinking involved.
And I am not overly concerned with the mechanics of putting her on the new
island, if I get that far, I can work that out.

For this phase however, I'm leaning toward an anchor array, a block and
tackle set-up, a come along, a really high tide, and a case of Rum. Should
be a hoot.

Thanks



"rcoleman" wrote in message
. ..
Out goofing around yesterday, and found a 23' sailboat high and dry, maybe
15yds from a navigable creek. I'm guessing it could be dragged over the
marsh and into the water, but even with a really high lunar tide, it's
going to take some force. There isn't anything across from it to secure a
winch, and the creek isn't deep enough to get a big boat in to drag it
off.

Any idea how I can do this?

Ironically I want to float it to another location and beach it there.

If youre close to Washington State, I will help you if you supply the rum
lol
"rcoleman" wrote in message
m...
Thanks for all of the ideas. To give you a few more details, Gene, you
will know the place, the boat is beached on Masonboro island. Ocean on one
side, creeks and marsh on the other. Reachable only by boat. It is public
land, and the boat is on the creek side. As I said before, about 15 yards
from a navigable creek. It wasn't put there on purpose; likely it broke
from its mooring and drifted there on its own. It is a bit of a mystery
because we didn't have any storm surges that you would expect capable of
putting it there, but there it is. It would appear fairly recently
stranded from the condition, and someone has stripped her of mast, tackle
and rigging. At this point, from my limited understanding of salvage law,
I'd say she's fair game. She'll float I believe, hull looks intact, but
putting her right would be quite an undertaking. My desire is to refloat
her, take her up river to another island on the Cape Fear, pull her up on
that island, and use it like a ersatz camper. Crazy, stupid, insane? sure,
just like I like things. And it will make a great story. So what the hell.

But it is an intellectual challenge nonetheless. All the equipment to do
the job must be readily available, at little cost, and must fit on a 18ft
boat to make it up the creek. So no cranes, helicopters, or elephants. And
it must be a simple plan, because yes, there will be much drinking
involved. And I am not overly concerned with the mechanics of putting her
on the new island, if I get that far, I can work that out.

For this phase however, I'm leaning toward an anchor array, a block and
tackle set-up, a come along, a really high tide, and a case of Rum. Should
be a hoot.

Thanks



"rcoleman" wrote in message
. ..
Out goofing around yesterday, and found a 23' sailboat high and dry,
maybe 15yds from a navigable creek. I'm guessing it could be dragged over
the marsh and into the water, but even with a really high lunar tide,
it's going to take some force. There isn't anything across from it to
secure a winch, and the creek isn't deep enough to get a big boat in to
drag it off.

Any idea how I can do this?

Ironically I want to float it to another location and beach it there.

On Tue, 31 May 2005 13:37:04 GMT, "rcoleman"
wrote:

~~ snippage ~~

So no cranes, helicopters, or elephants. And it
must be a simple plan, because yes, there will be much drinking involved.

Ah - well, let me say from personal experience that things become much
clearer once a couple of six packs have been consumed.

What I would do is gather the tools, friends and mucho beer, head out
and have a party near the boat.

I guarantee by the end of the day the boat will be floating, but
nobody will ever remember how it got there. :)

Good luck - sounds like a good time.

Later,

Tom

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 31 May 2005 13:37:04 GMT, "rcoleman"
wrote:

~~ snippage ~~


So no cranes, helicopters, or elephants. And it
must be a simple plan, because yes, there will be much drinking involved.


Ah - well, let me say from personal experience that things become much
clearer once a couple of six packs have been consumed.

What I would do is gather the tools, friends and mucho beer, head out
and have a party near the boat.

I guarantee by the end of the day the boat will be floating, but
nobody will ever remember how it got there. :)

Good luck - sounds like a good time.

Later,

Tom

This is starting to sound like a good project for the Wreck.boats
regulars. We could all get together, have a few beers, smoke the peace
pipe and 'try to get along'. Think it would work??

Saw a movie the other day where a Toyota Land Cruiser got stuck in a bog
in the Aussie Outback. The local woman tried to use what she called a
'dead man'. She buried the spare tire about 4 or 5 feet down in the
sand after attaching the winch cable to it. (nothing else around to
attach cable to). Didn't work though...the spare wheel anchor stayed
buried but the winch burned out.

This is starting to sound like a good project for the Wreck.boats
regulars. We could all get together, have a few beers, smoke the peace
pipe and 'try to get along'. Think it would work??

************

Based on what has passed for discussion here recently, I'd say you'd be
gnuts to show up without a weapon. Forget the "peace pipe", bring a
piece of pipe.

On Tue, 31 May 2005 16:35:46 GMT, Don White wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 31 May 2005 13:37:04 GMT, "rcoleman"
wrote:

~~ snippage ~~


So no cranes, helicopters, or elephants. And it
must be a simple plan, because yes, there will be much drinking involved.


Ah - well, let me say from personal experience that things become much
clearer once a couple of six packs have been consumed.

What I would do is gather the tools, friends and mucho beer, head out
and have a party near the boat.

I guarantee by the end of the day the boat will be floating, but
nobody will ever remember how it got there. :)

Good luck - sounds like a good time.

Later,

Tom

This is starting to sound like a good project for the Wreck.boats
regulars. We could all get together, have a few beers, smoke the peace
pipe and 'try to get along'. Think it would work??

Saw a movie the other day where a Toyota Land Cruiser got stuck in a bog
in the Aussie Outback. The local woman tried to use what she called a
'dead man'. She buried the spare tire about 4 or 5 feet down in the
sand after attaching the winch cable to it. (nothing else around to
attach cable to). Didn't work though...the spare wheel anchor stayed
buried but the winch burned out.

Where is this place? Sounds like it might make a nice motorcycle ride. Hell,
count me in!

--
John H
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes (A true binary thinker!)

Will it float in water? If it will and it isn't too far above the water
level of the nearby creek (15 yards? you said) dig around the boat and
fill the cavity with enough water to float it. A portable genset and a
sump pump you can probably rent for $30 or so a day can be used to pump
water from the creek to the hole. Once the boat is floating in the hole
cut a channel just deep and wide enough to float it to the creek.
Depending on the elevation difference it shouldn't be too difficult. A
hard working teenager might come in handy.
Good luck.