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Force Help Please?
Hi,
I am a first time poster to this NG. I have a few questions that I hope some of you will have experience with. Here goes: 1. I recently bought a 1984 Force 85 HP. I just had the lower unit replaced and it seems to work ok but I am concerned about a growling sound that it makes. Do you have any idea what the sound may be? 2. When running at half throttle or so and then accelerating to full throttle the engine dies. If I use the throttle handle like a gas pedal and "pump it" it will continue running and accelerate on to full speed. Something about this sound really wrong. Also when pushing the throttle to full as I described, the engine sounds as though it is not getting fuel. 3. Does anyone know the correct fuel air mixture adjustment? My manual tells me an initial adjustment but doesn't go any further into it. I know that elevation is a factor but thought I would see what you all say. 4. When at idle, when I put the engine into gear it will die alot of the time. Any help would be great. Thanks Rog |
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Not sure of the mixture screw setting but
1. Have the lower unit checked by whoever did the work. Definitely does not sound right. 2. Adjust the idle setting for idle in gear at 700 rpms. This will eliminate the stalling when shifting into gear. 3. As for the acceleration problem, make sure the fuel tank vent is clear, if so, I would think it may be time for a complete carb rebuild by a pro. -- Tony my boats at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com "buggrn 74" wrote in message om... Hi, I am a first time poster to this NG. I have a few questions that I hope some of you will have experience with. Here goes: 1. I recently bought a 1984 Force 85 HP. I just had the lower unit replaced and it seems to work ok but I am concerned about a growling sound that it makes. Do you have any idea what the sound may be? 2. When running at half throttle or so and then accelerating to full throttle the engine dies. If I use the throttle handle like a gas pedal and "pump it" it will continue running and accelerate on to full speed. Something about this sound really wrong. Also when pushing the throttle to full as I described, the engine sounds as though it is not getting fuel. 3. Does anyone know the correct fuel air mixture adjustment? My manual tells me an initial adjustment but doesn't go any further into it. I know that elevation is a factor but thought I would see what you all say. 4. When at idle, when I put the engine into gear it will die alot of the time. Any help would be great. Thanks Rog |
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Force Help Please?
Rog,
Follow Tony's advice!!! I don't know anything about that motor but at 85 hp you must have more than one carb, and not only do they need to be sync'd when properely adjusted, they NEED to be giving you the fuel flow. 2 strokes can't really handle a lack of fuel without trashing the engine! I got a GREAT deal on a set of carbs for my motor off of ebay last year. As soon as I pulled apart the lower carb of the pair, I knew what happened to the engine it came from. The lower carb had the float adjusted at a 45 degrees instead of at the normal 'level' In this case I'm sure the lower cylinder burned up since there was never enough fuel going through that carb. If you're handy, you can rebuild them yourself, that is, if they need to be rebuilt, and you can disassemble and clean them up if not. Oh, and if you don't already have a service manual for that motor, get one. Some say they are worth their weight in gold. Sometimes I think they're worth a lot more than that! The poor accelleration could really could be as simple as gummed up carbs from the motor sitting too long if you don't know it's history. Or could be a bad backyard mechanic. Either way, definitly check it out. -Jim |
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Thankks Guys,
I am able to do most of my own "backyard mechanics" as you call them. And I appreciate your advice. I think if your not a bit handy with a wrench in your hand, then you shouldn't own a boat! I will check those into those things guys. I do have a manual and it seems to be a pretty good one so far. I appreciate your help. Rog Jim wrote in message ... Rog, Follow Tony's advice!!! I don't know anything about that motor but at 85 hp you must have more than one carb, and not only do they need to be sync'd when properely adjusted, they NEED to be giving you the fuel flow. 2 strokes can't really handle a lack of fuel without trashing the engine! I got a GREAT deal on a set of carbs for my motor off of ebay last year. As soon as I pulled apart the lower carb of the pair, I knew what happened to the engine it came from. The lower carb had the float adjusted at a 45 degrees instead of at the normal 'level' In this case I'm sure the lower cylinder burned up since there was never enough fuel going through that carb. If you're handy, you can rebuild them yourself, that is, if they need to be rebuilt, and you can disassemble and clean them up if not. Oh, and if you don't already have a service manual for that motor, get one. Some say they are worth their weight in gold. Sometimes I think they're worth a lot more than that! The poor accelleration could really could be as simple as gummed up carbs from the motor sitting too long if you don't know it's history. Or could be a bad backyard mechanic. Either way, definitly check it out. -Jim |
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