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Buying used tips: 2001 Sea Ray BR 185
Hello,
I am planning to buy a used boat. I am considering a used SeaRay BR185. Wanting to getting some use boat buying tips. Any help is greatly appreciated. 1. SeaRay website does not have old boat specification. Where can I get SeaRay 2001 BR 185 specification? 2. What should I inspect when buy a used boat? 3. Is SeaRay a good reliable brand? 4. Any good or bad thing about 2001 BR185 boat? Thanks Thinh |
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Buying used tips: 2001 Sea Ray BR 185
SeaRay's site does have old specs. Go to the downloads section then click on
archives. I had a 2000 185BR. It had the 4.3 190hp. It had decent get up and go and hit right around 50mph. Never had a problem with it, but found it got small quick. Only had it a year before going to a 210BR. 2.5 feet longer and 1 foot wider made a big difference when the water got rough. Good luck |
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Buying used tips: 2001 Sea Ray BR 185
Here's what the INSIDE of the Sea Ray hull looks like. Read what the
surveyor thinks of this and what he found before you waste your money..... http://www.yachtsurvey.com/Fiberglass_Boats.htm It's not a fiberglass boat....by any stretch of the imagination. On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:07:16 -0500, wrote: Hello, I am planning to buy a used boat. I am considering a used SeaRay BR185. Wanting to getting some use boat buying tips. Any help is greatly appreciated. 1. SeaRay website does not have old boat specification. Where can I get SeaRay 2001 BR 185 specification? 2. What should I inspect when buy a used boat? 3. Is SeaRay a good reliable brand? 4. Any good or bad thing about 2001 BR185 boat? Thanks Thinh Larry W4CSC "No, NO, Mr Spock! I said beam me down a WRENCH, not a WENCH! KIRK OUT!" |
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Buying used tips: 2001 Sea Ray BR 185
Here's what the INSIDE of the Sea Ray hull looks like. Read what the
surveyor thinks of this and what he found before you waste your money..... http://www.yachtsurvey.com/Fiberglass_Boats.htm I call "bogus" on at least one photo in this batch. If one is obviously something other than what it is reported to be, how much credibility do the other photos have? My case: Look at the photo on the right hand side of the page where a hand with a silver wris****ch is peeling the outer skin away. What do we see under the skin? We see evidence of a *previous, botched, repair!* Notice how a big chunk of the material underneath is a much brighter white and far more roughly finished than the area around it? (Bad repair work could be why the outer layers are delaminating). No reasonable person would conclude that both colors of material were laid in at the same time, yet the article purports to be exposing crappy OEM techniques, not botched repairs. Again I say, "bogus." Get five surveyors to look at something, and at least one of them will ordinarily disagree with the rest. Simply because a surveyor puts up a web site, he's not suddenly infallible. |
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Buying used tips: 2001 Sea Ray BR 185
Larry wrote:
Here's what the INSIDE of the Sea Ray hull looks like. Read what the surveyor thinks of this and what he found before you waste your money..... http://www.yachtsurvey.com/Fiberglass_Boats.htm It's not a fiberglass boat....by any stretch of the imagination. Shucks, you believe much of anything on Pascoe's website? He is a raving nutcase, and he knows far far less about marine engineering than he thinks he does. It's true that a lot of boats are flimsy, but his ranting contains very little useful & accurate info. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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Buying used tips: 2001 Sea Ray BR 185
So, you are deflecting the picture truth with an attack on surveyors,
right? ???????????????????? Please read for content. I didn't "attack surveyors", I pointed out that a photo submitted for evidence of poor construction techniques is actually a photo showing a poorly executed repair. How is this an attack on surveyors? Do you disagree that the bright white material that joins abruptly to the grey material (with a clearly visible and irregular margin) cannot be the same material? If so, say so and state your reasoning. Don't accuse me of a general attack on surveyors.....all I said was that not all surveyors will agree with Pascoe. http://www.yachtsurvey.com/Fiberglass_Boats.htm I call "bogus" on at least one photo in this batch. If one is obviously something other than what it is reported to be, how much credibility do the other photos have? My case: Look at the photo on the right hand side of the page where a hand with a silver wris****ch is peeling the outer skin away. What do we see under the skin? We see evidence of a *previous, botched, repair!* Notice how a big chunk of the material underneath is a much brighter white and far more roughly finished than the area around it? (Bad repair work could be why the outer layers are delaminating). No reasonable person would conclude that both colors of material were laid in at the same time, yet the article purports to be exposing crappy OEM techniques, not botched repairs. Again I say, "bogus." Get five surveyors to look at something, and at least one of them will ordinarily disagree with the rest. Simply because a surveyor puts up a web site, he's not suddenly infallible. |
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Buying used tips: 2001 Sea Ray BR 185
Larry wrote:
So, how do you explain away the PICTURES? Did Pascoe make this up to look bad? No, but there are several issues with several of these pictures. Several are exactly what Pascoe says they are. More are not, and with good eyes & a bit of knowledge you can see where the photos do not show what Pascoe says they do. Furthermore, to look at some examples of bad construction and then claim (as Pascoe does, vehemently) that *all* composites & sandwich construction are flimsy & short-lived is a ludicrous stretch. Have you read the opening two paragraphs of his web page on buying a boat? IMHO people who rant like that shoot their own credibility. Unless he presents himself in person VERY differently than he does on his web site, I'm kind of surprised he can stay in business as a surveyor. DSK |
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Buying used tips: 2001 Sea Ray BR 185
Shucks, you believe much of anything on Pascoe's website? He is a raving nutcase, and he knows far far less about marine engineering than he thinks he does. It's true that a lot of boats are flimsy, but his ranting contains very little useful & accurate info. Fresh Breezes- Doug King Doug, that's not accurate. He may be a zealot for traditionalist boat building, but I think it's reasonable to conclude that he has amassed a lot of experience. What's misleading in this thread is the cut and paste criticism of Sea Ray from Pascoe's articles. Pascoe himself has written lengthy articles commending Sea Ray for being one of the better production builders, while expressing frustration that they still fall short in some areas. Hardly a sweeping condemnation, as Larry would have you believe. -- Rich Stern www.nitroowners.com - The Nitro and Tracker Owners Web Site www.mypontoon.com - The Pontoon Boat Web Site www.fishingreportdatabase.com - The Fishing Report Database www.mysporttrac.com - The Sport Trac Web Site |
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Buying used tips: 2001 Sea Ray BR 185
Gould 0738 wrote:
What most people miss about Pascoe's site is that it isn't intended to be fully factual. I'd have to check to see if it still reads this way, but for years the introduction to his section on various boat brands contained a statement that David thought it was his mission to be unrealistically harsh on boats. He felt it important to offset what he believes are the often too-rosy write ups in the mainstream marine press. Apparent philosophy: "Since 'Power and Stinkpot' said this was a pretty good boat and I can find a few shortcomings, I better say it's a real POS so people will investigate it more thoroughly." I guess he sees the lowest common denominator, but he also seems to believe that anybody buying a boat must be a moron... or maybe it's that he thinks anybody who is buying a boat, and asks *his* opinion, must be a moron.... In one way, I can appreciate his pseudo logic because many people who are buying boats just plain have no clue, and skimp on inspection (just like they skimp on gear & training) based on the conviction that it really can't be that bad, can it? Anyway, his anti-core rants are based on incomplete information. He obviously has no experience with epoxy or S-glass or Kevlar or carbon fiber or vacuum-bagged cored laminates. But then relatively few motorboats are made out of these materials, and none of the mass-produced ones are. This, and his discussion of various engine issues, shoot his credibility right into the ground IMHO. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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