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"From all over the world we are getting letters of condolence, the Red
Cross has come, but the so-called Great White Father in Washington
hasn't said or done a thing," said Clyde Bellecourt, a Chippewa Indian
who is the founder and national director of the American Indian Movement
here. "When people's children are murdered and others are in the
hospital hanging on to life, he should be the first one to offer his
condolences. . . . If this was a white community, I don't think he'd
have any problem doing that."

The reaction to Bush's silence was particularly bitter given his
high-profile, late-night intervention on behalf of Terri Schiavo, the
brain-damaged Florida woman caught in a legal battle over whether her
feeding tube should be reinserted.

"The fact that Bush preempted his vacation to say something about Ms.
Schiavo and here you have 10 native people gunned down and he can't take
time to speak is very telling," said David Wilkins, interim chairman of
the Department of American Indian Studies at the University of Minnesota
and a member of the North Carolina-based Lumbee tribe.

And in a related comment
It was the third time Clinton has come to Colorado because of Columbine.

"I felt the first time I came here, in the aftermath of that awful day
over five years ago, that I had gotten more out of being here than I
could have possibly given in terms of comfort because I was so
moved...," Clinton said.

He met with Columbine High School survivors a month after students Dylan
Klebold and Eric Harris launched their attack. He also called several
victims in local hospitals

Then President Clinton sent condolences to columbine the day of the
shooting.

On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:44:31 GMT, "Jim," wrote:

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Damn! Kerry would have been right there, too.

Of course, if Bush had gone, then y'all would be saying he was playing the race
card and hounding the Indians for political gain. Life's a bitch when you're
President. It's a damn shame Kerry didn't get elected just so we wouldn't have
to hear the God awful bad truth about Bush.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

We all screwed up, again.

Want to stop school shootings?

Never, ever, ever, publish the name, the photo, the description, or the
biography of the ******* kid(s) who pull these things.

They only do it for the notoriety. Take this
fascist Nazi-wannabe Native kid, for example: odds are that he wouldn't
have thought twice about killing all those other kids if Harris and
Klebold, etc, weren't *still* hot topics in the press. The kid achieved
something in his death that he would have never achieved in life-
millions of people will recognize his name. :-(

Let the names of the shooters die with them, and this kind of crap will
cut way back or stop.

Withholding the shooter's name doesn't interfere with freedom of the
press- it's done all the time in juvenile cases that are just a bit
less sensational. The facts can be reported without making a sick,
twisted, folk hero out of the murdering, criminal *******.

On 26 Mar 2005 14:01:34 -0800, wrote:

We all screwed up, again.

Want to stop school shootings?

Never, ever, ever, publish the name, the photo, the description, or the
biography of the ******* kid(s) who pull these things.

They only do it for the notoriety. Take this
fascist Nazi-wannabe Native kid, for example: odds are that he wouldn't
have thought twice about killing all those other kids if Harris and
Klebold, etc, weren't *still* hot topics in the press. The kid achieved
something in his death that he would have never achieved in life-
millions of people will recognize his name. :-(

Let the names of the shooters die with them, and this kind of crap will
cut way back or stop.

Withholding the shooter's name doesn't interfere with freedom of the
press- it's done all the time in juvenile cases that are just a bit
less sensational. The facts can be reported without making a sick,
twisted, folk hero out of the murdering, criminal *******.

I 100% agree!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

I 100% agree!
--
John H

**************

Well there's an Easter mircle for ya, JohnH and Gould agree. :-)

John H wrote:
Damn! Kerry would have been right there, too.


Is this a sign that the "It's Clinton's Fault" excuse is starting to
wear thin?

At least that slogan had some legs. "Kerry Couldn't Have Done Any
Better" is going to sound pretty lame in short order.

DSK

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 07:39:17 -0500, DSK wrote:


John H wrote:
Damn! Kerry would have been right there, too.


Is this a sign that the "It's Clinton's Fault" excuse is starting to
wear thin?

At least that slogan had some legs. "Kerry Couldn't Have Done Any
Better" is going to sound pretty lame in short order.

DSK

No, no. You've got it wrong. Kerry would have done *much* better, which is why
I'm so disappointed that he lost. Hell, if Kerry had been elected we could have
expected:


Very sincere expressions of condolences to anyone who suffered anything,
Taxes to go up *only* for those making over $200,000,
The 'No Child Left Behind Act' to be fully funded,
The Iraq Coalition to become much larger very soon, especially with
all the French and German troops that will join,
Everyone able to have the same medical care afforded members of
Congress,
Cheap prescription drugs,
All children going to college,
An immediate end to the nuclear weapons aims of North Korea and Iran,
America to soon be the beloved nation of the entire world,
A tremendous decrease in unemployment,
A huge increase in high-paying jobs,
A resurgence of manufacturing jobs,
A tremendous decrease in outsourcing, with jobs returning to the US,
An energy independent America, with no reliance on Mideast oil,
A modernized military, able to meet all threats,
The failure of terrorist organizations to breed new generations,
A 50% reduction in the deficit,
Enforcement of all of our trade laws, with a complete review in 120
days,
An increase in the minimum wage to $7.00,
The creation of10 million new jobs in his first term,
Changes in credit laws to prevent very high interest rates,
The savings of billions of dollars in medical overhead costs,
The inspection of the 95% of containers entering the country not
currently inspected,
More secure borders,
The hardening of nuclear plants, airports, trains and subways against
attack,
Improvement of our intelligence gathering, analysis and sharing to
stop terrorists before they can do harm,
A tougher, smarter, more effective war on terror,
The securing of nuclear materials worldwide,
A speed-up in drug and vaccine development,
and,
did I mention he will raise taxes only on those making $200,000 or
more?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Ya

Raise taxes on those over 200,000.

Come on,, what happens when they pull out of the country to a more tax
friendly country? Like the evacuations that happened in Canada. Especially
with doctors. You know socialism does not work for very long before it ruins
a country. All those things sound very nice, very nice in a different world
but who is going to pay for it all? Those who earn over 200,000? So you
remove incentives for betterment. America is in a very difficult time now,
10 t in national debt that your grandchildren will have to pay. Do you know
what China and S.E. Asia will do to you? Your trade deficit is a record
high. You are experiencing economic situations that you cannot fathom. You
have lost your country to multinationals already and as reported yesterday
of the higher income earners and they appear to be Asians. If there is an
exodus of Asians from your country, the higher income earners (on average)
then there goes your expertise. Like Canada losing its doctors, the good
ones to the states. The medical health care system is in shambles. So what
will you do in Canada? Raise Taxes like Kerry wants?? ????

Nope, your country was right to elect the proper candidate. If you do not
like what he looks like, then that is your problem. But for fiscal
responsibility to your grandchildren is another thing.







"John H" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 07:39:17 -0500, DSK wrote:


John H wrote:
Damn! Kerry would have been right there, too.


Is this a sign that the "It's Clinton's Fault" excuse is starting to
wear thin?

At least that slogan had some legs. "Kerry Couldn't Have Done Any
Better" is going to sound pretty lame in short order.

DSK

No, no. You've got it wrong. Kerry would have done *much* better, which is
why
I'm so disappointed that he lost. Hell, if Kerry had been elected we could
have
expected:


Very sincere expressions of condolences to anyone who suffered anything,
Taxes to go up *only* for those making over $200,000,
The 'No Child Left Behind Act' to be fully funded,
The Iraq Coalition to become much larger very soon, especially with
all the French and German troops that will join,
Everyone able to have the same medical care afforded members of
Congress,
Cheap prescription drugs,
All children going to college,
An immediate end to the nuclear weapons aims of North Korea and Iran,
America to soon be the beloved nation of the entire world,
A tremendous decrease in unemployment,
A huge increase in high-paying jobs,
A resurgence of manufacturing jobs,
A tremendous decrease in outsourcing, with jobs returning to the US,
An energy independent America, with no reliance on Mideast oil,
A modernized military, able to meet all threats,
The failure of terrorist organizations to breed new generations,
A 50% reduction in the deficit,
Enforcement of all of our trade laws, with a complete review in 120
days,
An increase in the minimum wage to $7.00,
The creation of10 million new jobs in his first term,
Changes in credit laws to prevent very high interest rates,
The savings of billions of dollars in medical overhead costs,
The inspection of the 95% of containers entering the country not
currently inspected,
More secure borders,
The hardening of nuclear plants, airports, trains and subways against
attack,
Improvement of our intelligence gathering, analysis and sharing to
stop terrorists before they can do harm,
A tougher, smarter, more effective war on terror,
The securing of nuclear materials worldwide,
A speed-up in drug and vaccine development,
and,
did I mention he will raise taxes only on those making $200,000 or
more?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."