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wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: CA for over a 100. They can take your car for propositioning a hooker. The politico's want money. Not for speeding. You can, however, get your car taken away, if you are found guilty of RECKLESS DRIVING involving speeds over 100mph. A simple speeding ticket for 100mph will net in a huge fine, possible loss of license for a period. Easy to tag a reckless driving on a 100 mph ticket. Only takes 3 laws broken to stick you. And they take the car. Drive 95, and reckless and they do not get the car. Therefore as was stated, they can take your car! |
"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message ... On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 05:30:55 +0000, Calif Bill wrote: Texas rigged is a weight right against the hook. The hook is buried in a plastic worm, so the worm is straight and the hook comes out of the worm and then is hooked back in to the skin of the worm, making it weedless. The Carolina rig is same hook, but a geavy weight, then a swivel and then 15-20" leader to the hook. Carolina rig is probably not great in BC, as it is for muddy, silted in bottoms. Bill Ahhhh! I used a "Carolina rig" when I was a kid, fishing for cutts (just didn't call it that!). We also use a variation where the weight is on the end of the line and the hook is 20-50cm up (called a "bar rig"). But I like the idea of hooking the hook back into the worm - we DO have lots of stuff on the bottom to snag! I also have some flies that are weighted on the "back" so they sink hook-up. I should give them a try. Lloyd For flys, use a little cork popper type. |
wrote in message ups.com... Calif Bill wrote: Texas rigged is a weight right against the hook. The hook is buried in a plastic worm, so the worm is straight and the hook comes out of the worm and then is hooked back in to the skin of the worm, making it weedless. The Carolina rig is same hook, but a geavy weight, then a swivel and then 15-20" leader to the hook. Nope. With a Carolina rig, the weight is ABOVE the swivel, which is usually around 3 or 4 feet above the hook. The weight is an egg sinker, so it will go to the bottom, and the line will slide through the weight. Carolina rig is probably not great in BC, as it is for muddy, silted in bottoms. Nope. the Carolina rig CAN be used in silty situations, but is isn't FOR them. There are many, many areas, and conditions where a Carolina rig is affective. Further, it was first developed to fish DEEP structure. I said it was above the swivel. Read for understanding. And DEEP in the south is not DEEP in the west. The big weight made a commotion in the silt and the worm stayed above the bottom. |
I take it that bass are not native to B.C.?
"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message ... On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:17:19 +0000, Karl Pollak wrote: x-no-archive: yes Lloyd Sumpter wrote: We're having a fish-in in April targeting the (illegally-stocked) largemouth bass in the Vancouver area. Where? Fraser Valley: • Mill Lake - Abbotsford B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Hatzic Lake - Mission B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Chadsey Lake - Abbotsford, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Sturgeon Slough - Pitt Meadows, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Brunette River - Coquitlam, B.C. - (rumored) Largemouth Bass • Judson Lake - Abbotsford, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Pepin Creek - Abbotsford, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • N. Alouette River - Pitt Meadows, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Fish Trap Creek - Abbotsford, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Glochester Ponds - Aldergrove, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • West Creek - Langley, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Salmon River - Fort Langley, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Kawkawa Lake - Hope, B.C. - Smallmouth Bass (few) • Albert Dyck Park - Abbotsford, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Widgeon Creek (also mentioned in the thread) • Walmsley Lake, Abbotsford (LM) from WCBA site • Boundary Lake, Abbotsford (LM) from WCBA site • Laxton Lake, Abbotsford (LM) from WCBA site Okanagan: • Osoyoos Lake - near town of Osoyoos, B.C. - Largemouth & Smallmouth Bass • Skaha Lake - near Penticton and Okanagan Falls, B.C. - Largemouth & Smallmouth Bass • Vaseux Lake - S. of Okanagan Falls, B.C. - Largemouth & Smallmouth Bass • Deadman Lake - N. of Osoyoos, B.C. - Largemouth & Smallmouth Bass • Okanagan River - From Okanagan Lake to Osoyoos Lake - Largemouth & Smallmouth Bass Kootenays: • Duck Lake - North of Creston, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Christina Lake - 22 km. E. of Grand Forks, B.C. - Largemouth & Smallmouth Bass • Kootenay Lake Flats - S. end of lake near Creston, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Summit Creek (slough) - W. of Creston, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Jim Smith Lake - 7 km. SW. of Cranbrook, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Baynes Lake - 11 km. SW. of Elko, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Tie Lake - N. of Jaffray, B.C. - Smallmouth Bass Lloyd |
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Lloyd Sumpter wrote: We're having a fish-in in April targeting the (illegally-stocked) largemouth bass in the Vancouver area. Where? Fraser Valley: Okanagan: Kootenays: Lloyd, I am a bit confused here. The list that you posted looks more like infestation than just a case of illegal stocking. Surely if the species are in so many places, the government would have noticed this before and doen something about it? Also, I am not sure who is the "we're having" and what is a "fish-in". Are you suggesting that a group of organized volunteers are offering to assist the provincial conservation authorities in eradication of an improperly introduced species of weed fish that could potentially crowd out native species, or a bunch of guys are having a good time over a weekend, or what exactly is it we're talking about? Further, you mention a number of tributaries of the Fraser river but not the Fraser herself. Are the fish not in the Fraser or just the "fish-in" is not going to take place there? If this is intended to eliminate/reduce population of a non-native species, is fishing licence still required for this apparent public service? -- Greetings from Lotusland |
Other than eating a few trout, the bass and salmonids live together fairly
well. Big trout also eat a few smaller bass. The Umqua River in Oregon is one of the premier smallmouth bass streams in the USA. Also a very excellent salmon and Steelhead river. Bill "Steve Thomas" wrote in message . .. I take it that bass are not native to B.C.? "Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message ... On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:17:19 +0000, Karl Pollak wrote: x-no-archive: yes Lloyd Sumpter wrote: We're having a fish-in in April targeting the (illegally-stocked) largemouth bass in the Vancouver area. Where? Fraser Valley: • Mill Lake - Abbotsford B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Hatzic Lake - Mission B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Chadsey Lake - Abbotsford, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Sturgeon Slough - Pitt Meadows, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Brunette River - Coquitlam, B.C. - (rumored) Largemouth Bass • Judson Lake - Abbotsford, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Pepin Creek - Abbotsford, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • N. Alouette River - Pitt Meadows, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Fish Trap Creek - Abbotsford, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Glochester Ponds - Aldergrove, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • West Creek - Langley, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Salmon River - Fort Langley, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Kawkawa Lake - Hope, B.C. - Smallmouth Bass (few) • Albert Dyck Park - Abbotsford, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Widgeon Creek (also mentioned in the thread) • Walmsley Lake, Abbotsford (LM) from WCBA site • Boundary Lake, Abbotsford (LM) from WCBA site • Laxton Lake, Abbotsford (LM) from WCBA site Okanagan: • Osoyoos Lake - near town of Osoyoos, B.C. - Largemouth & Smallmouth Bass • Skaha Lake - near Penticton and Okanagan Falls, B.C. - Largemouth & Smallmouth Bass • Vaseux Lake - S. of Okanagan Falls, B.C. - Largemouth & Smallmouth Bass • Deadman Lake - N. of Osoyoos, B.C. - Largemouth & Smallmouth Bass • Okanagan River - From Okanagan Lake to Osoyoos Lake - Largemouth & Smallmouth Bass Kootenays: • Duck Lake - North of Creston, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Christina Lake - 22 km. E. of Grand Forks, B.C. - Largemouth & Smallmouth Bass • Kootenay Lake Flats - S. end of lake near Creston, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Summit Creek (slough) - W. of Creston, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Jim Smith Lake - 7 km. SW. of Cranbrook, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Baynes Lake - 11 km. SW. of Elko, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Tie Lake - N. of Jaffray, B.C. - Smallmouth Bass Lloyd |
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On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 03:46:10 +0000, Karl Pollak wrote:
x-no-archive: yes Lloyd Sumpter wrote: We're having a fish-in in April targeting the (illegally-stocked) largemouth bass in the Vancouver area. Where? Fraser Valley: Okanagan: Kootenays: Lloyd, I am a bit confused here. The list that you posted looks more like infestation than just a case of illegal stocking. Surely if the species are in so many places, the government would have noticed this before and doen something about it? Ok, I'll try to explain what's going on here. There's an organized group of individuals who are lobbying to introduce bass as a sport fish in BC. They have illegally stocked many lakes and sloughs and have successfully lobbies the DFO to have bass mentioned as a "sport fish" in the regs. (so yes, we need a license. We'd need one anyway, because you can't FISH without one. You can't say "Oh, but Officer, I was fishing for pikeminnows, so I don't need a license...") BTW: there are so many places mentioned because, well, they're all kinda connected together. Introduce them in one lake, and soon they migrate to any other lakes or streams in the area. I suspect there aren't many bass in the Fraser itself because first, the water stays pretty cold, and second, there are some BIG fish there that would probably eat bass. Another BTW: It's illegal in BC for ANYONE except the Govt to transport live fish from one body of water to another. In fact, livewells are illegal in freshwater - you must either kill or release any fish you catch. Now, there's also a semi-organized group of individuals who do NOT want bass in BC. We're happy with the sport fish we have here already, and have seen the results of introducing non-native species in an ecology, especially without proper studies. So, the "fish-in" is mainly an opportunity just to have some fun, but also to bring "our side" of the story to the attention of others. I doubt that 4 fish each will do any damage to the bass population... Lloyd |
On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:18:09 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter
wrote: Hi, We're having a fish-in in April targeting the (illegally-stocked) largemouth bass in the Vancouver area. I've never fished for bass befo any hints? And do I need a 225hp boat and do I need to dress like a NASCAR driver? ;) Lloyd I cuurnetly hold the large-mouth record in 6 states. Sorry, those secrets I cant share. |
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Harry Krause wrote: I cuurnetly hold the large-mouth record in 6 states. Sorry, those secrets I cant share. That's understandable, but can you at least tell us just how large is your mouth so that we can tell what kind of record we're aiming at? :-) -- Greetings from Lotusland |
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