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Wayne.B March 10th 05 06:33 PM

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 17:43:05 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

It is because you can drive 100 mph in a bass boat legally. In a car, they
take the car and a lot of money for driving that fast. Simple.


============

Yes, and they take your license also which is where we will end up if
not careful. If we tolerate reckless or annoying operation by others,
we'll all end up in the same boat so to speak.


Stanley Barthfarkle March 10th 05 08:49 PM


We're having a fish-in in April targeting the (illegally-stocked)
largemouth bass in the Vancouver area.

I've never fished for bass befo any hints? And do I need a 225hp
boat and do I need to dress like a NASCAR driver? ;)



As far as the fast boats go, a friend of my father's used to fish bass
tournaments, and the participants all left the starting line at the same
time in the morning. The ones with the fastest boats got to the best fishing
spots on the lake first and could claim a good spot as their "turf". In the
evening as the deadline approached for fishermen to come to the dock and
weigh their day's catch, the fast boats allowed them to stay on the water a
little longer since they could make it back quickly.

The metal-flake paint and Nascar clothing? I think that's just a redneck
thing... :)



[email protected] March 10th 05 09:31 PM


Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 07:04:32 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter
wrote:

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:08:48 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:18:09 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter
wrote:

Hi,

We're having a fish-in in April targeting the

(illegally-stocked)
largemouth bass in the Vancouver area.

I've never fished for bass befo any hints? And do I need a

225hp
boat and do I need to dress like a NASCAR driver? ;)

No, you need a 300 hp boat and since you asked, no - you don't

have
to dress like a NASCAR driver. Bra, crotchless panties, fishnet
stockings and black stiletto heels are the secret to catching

large
mouth bass - the pros only wear the branded clothing when they

are on
TV.

Just out of curiosity, what's the point of the fish-in?


OK, here's the Story: Bass are not native to BC. Somebody has

illegally
dumped them into several lakes in the area. Now, bass compete with

trout
and salmon, which ARE native, and we spend lots of tax dollars

every year
enhancing the stocks with hatcheries.

So - we want to publicize this problem and try to reducs the bass

stocks
and give the trout a better chance. And have some fun fishing

while we're
at it!

And yes, bass fishermen are kind of a joke around here. I mean, do

you
REALLY need that much HP to get around a lake thats only 1/2 a

mile
wide??
(The lakes we'll be targetting have no boat launch, and are

restricted to
electric motors only)


Ah - well, that is certainly a good reason. Not quite a perfect
reason, but a good one.

Bass fishing that far north takes some minor skills, but you really
need to put this fish-in when the water warms to around fifty

degrees
F or so - that's when they become very active.

The best way to fish is to use darker color plastic worms (like
blueberry or grape), Senko lures (6"green shades) or spinner baits

in
bright colors. Two best ways to rig the worms - Carolina or Texas.

I
prefer Texas, but I occasionally have success with Carolina rigs.

Last, use shiners, but that can be problematic as you will probably
have to sit on a breeding bed to get that to work.

Have fun. Don't forget the fishnet stockings.

Oh, and to answer your HP question - no, you really don't need that
kind of HP, but in the bass world, it's monkey see, monkey do. It
used to be that 18 foot bass boats were the best because that's

what
the pros used. Then it used to be that 20 foot bass boats were the
best because that's what the pros used. Then....etc.

Believe this or not, ten years ago, the HP limit on the bass trail

was
175. Then it went to 225 now it's 300.

It's all marketing. :)

Later,

Tom


It is because you can drive 100 mph in a bass boat legally. In a

car, they
take the car and a lot of money for driving that fast. Simple.


What state is it that they "take the car" for speeding?


[email protected] March 10th 05 09:39 PM


Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

And yes, bass fishermen are kind of a joke around here. I mean, do

you
REALLY need that much HP to get around a lake thats only 1/2 a mile

wide??
(The lakes we'll be targetting have no boat launch, and are

restricted to
electric motors only)

Lloyd


Most of the lakes here have lots of coves, rivers, etc. and actually
have many miles of shoreline. Lake Lanier for instance, has almost 700
miles of shoreline. Most bass fishing is done close to shore. Bass
tournament fisherman are starting from the same place, same time, and
want to get to where they think the fish will be as soon as possible.
This quickly transposed to the local guys wanting fast boats. I have to
say, it is nice fun to go like hell when conditions are good. Now, back
to these lakes you will be on, are they deep, and do the banks drop off
fast, or are there quite a lot of shallows? Any guess on the water
temp?


Short Wave Sportfishing March 10th 05 11:05 PM

On 10 Mar 2005 13:31:55 -0800, wrote:


Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 07:04:32 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter
wrote:

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:08:48 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:18:09 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter
wrote:

Hi,

We're having a fish-in in April targeting the

(illegally-stocked)
largemouth bass in the Vancouver area.

I've never fished for bass befo any hints? And do I need a

225hp
boat and do I need to dress like a NASCAR driver? ;)

No, you need a 300 hp boat and since you asked, no - you don't

have
to dress like a NASCAR driver. Bra, crotchless panties, fishnet
stockings and black stiletto heels are the secret to catching

large
mouth bass - the pros only wear the branded clothing when they

are on
TV.

Just out of curiosity, what's the point of the fish-in?


OK, here's the Story: Bass are not native to BC. Somebody has

illegally
dumped them into several lakes in the area. Now, bass compete with

trout
and salmon, which ARE native, and we spend lots of tax dollars

every year
enhancing the stocks with hatcheries.

So - we want to publicize this problem and try to reducs the bass

stocks
and give the trout a better chance. And have some fun fishing

while we're
at it!

And yes, bass fishermen are kind of a joke around here. I mean, do

you
REALLY need that much HP to get around a lake thats only 1/2 a

mile
wide??
(The lakes we'll be targetting have no boat launch, and are

restricted to
electric motors only)

Ah - well, that is certainly a good reason. Not quite a perfect
reason, but a good one.

Bass fishing that far north takes some minor skills, but you really
need to put this fish-in when the water warms to around fifty

degrees
F or so - that's when they become very active.

The best way to fish is to use darker color plastic worms (like
blueberry or grape), Senko lures (6"green shades) or spinner baits

in
bright colors. Two best ways to rig the worms - Carolina or Texas.

I
prefer Texas, but I occasionally have success with Carolina rigs.

Last, use shiners, but that can be problematic as you will probably
have to sit on a breeding bed to get that to work.

Have fun. Don't forget the fishnet stockings.

Oh, and to answer your HP question - no, you really don't need that
kind of HP, but in the bass world, it's monkey see, monkey do. It
used to be that 18 foot bass boats were the best because that's

what
the pros used. Then it used to be that 20 foot bass boats were the
best because that's what the pros used. Then....etc.

Believe this or not, ten years ago, the HP limit on the bass trail

was
175. Then it went to 225 now it's 300.

It's all marketing. :)

Later,

Tom


It is because you can drive 100 mph in a bass boat legally. In a

car, they
take the car and a lot of money for driving that fast. Simple.


What state is it that they "take the car" for speeding?


CT.

Later,

Tom


Calif Bill March 10th 05 11:57 PM


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On 10 Mar 2005 13:31:55 -0800, wrote:


Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 07:04:32 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter
wrote:

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:08:48 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:18:09 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter
wrote:

Hi,

We're having a fish-in in April targeting the

(illegally-stocked)
largemouth bass in the Vancouver area.

I've never fished for bass befo any hints? And do I need a

225hp
boat and do I need to dress like a NASCAR driver? ;)

No, you need a 300 hp boat and since you asked, no - you don't

have
to dress like a NASCAR driver. Bra, crotchless panties, fishnet
stockings and black stiletto heels are the secret to catching

large
mouth bass - the pros only wear the branded clothing when they

are on
TV.

Just out of curiosity, what's the point of the fish-in?


OK, here's the Story: Bass are not native to BC. Somebody has

illegally
dumped them into several lakes in the area. Now, bass compete with

trout
and salmon, which ARE native, and we spend lots of tax dollars

every year
enhancing the stocks with hatcheries.

So - we want to publicize this problem and try to reducs the bass

stocks
and give the trout a better chance. And have some fun fishing

while we're
at it!

And yes, bass fishermen are kind of a joke around here. I mean, do

you
REALLY need that much HP to get around a lake thats only 1/2 a

mile
wide??
(The lakes we'll be targetting have no boat launch, and are

restricted to
electric motors only)

Ah - well, that is certainly a good reason. Not quite a perfect
reason, but a good one.

Bass fishing that far north takes some minor skills, but you really
need to put this fish-in when the water warms to around fifty

degrees
F or so - that's when they become very active.

The best way to fish is to use darker color plastic worms (like
blueberry or grape), Senko lures (6"green shades) or spinner baits

in
bright colors. Two best ways to rig the worms - Carolina or Texas.

I
prefer Texas, but I occasionally have success with Carolina rigs.

Last, use shiners, but that can be problematic as you will probably
have to sit on a breeding bed to get that to work.

Have fun. Don't forget the fishnet stockings.

Oh, and to answer your HP question - no, you really don't need that
kind of HP, but in the bass world, it's monkey see, monkey do. It
used to be that 18 foot bass boats were the best because that's

what
the pros used. Then it used to be that 20 foot bass boats were the
best because that's what the pros used. Then....etc.

Believe this or not, ten years ago, the HP limit on the bass trail

was
175. Then it went to 225 now it's 300.

It's all marketing. :)

Later,

Tom

It is because you can drive 100 mph in a bass boat legally. In a

car, they
take the car and a lot of money for driving that fast. Simple.


What state is it that they "take the car" for speeding?


CT.

Later,

Tom


CA for over a 100. They can take your car for propositioning a hooker. The
politico's want money.



Lloyd Sumpter March 11th 05 02:46 AM

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:39:09 -0800, atl_man2 wrote:

Now, back
to these lakes you will be on, are they deep, and do the banks drop off
fast, or are there quite a lot of shallows? Any guess on the water
temp?


The ones illegally stocked with bass are all pretty shallow, less than 10
meters deep at the most, with lots of shallows 1-2 meters (with lots of
vegetation!).

Water temp this time of year? Probably around 10 C, obviously warmer in
the shallows and cooler down deep. It's too bad this "fish-in" is so early
- these shallow lakes get over 20 C in the summer.

BTW: Several others have mentioned "Texas rig" and "Carolina rig" - can
someone describe these, please? (I get the feeling they'd both be illegal
he we're mainly single-barbless hooks in freshwater)

Lloyd


Calif Bill March 11th 05 05:30 AM

Texas rigged is a weight right against the hook. The hook is buried in a
plastic worm, so the worm is straight and the hook comes out of the worm and
then is hooked back in to the skin of the worm, making it weedless. The
Carolina rig is same hook, but a geavy weight, then a swivel and then 15-20"
leader to the hook. Carolina rig is probably not great in BC, as it is for
muddy, silted in bottoms.
Bill

"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:39:09 -0800, atl_man2 wrote:

Now, back
to these lakes you will be on, are they deep, and do the banks drop off
fast, or are there quite a lot of shallows? Any guess on the water
temp?


The ones illegally stocked with bass are all pretty shallow, less than 10
meters deep at the most, with lots of shallows 1-2 meters (with lots of
vegetation!).

Water temp this time of year? Probably around 10 C, obviously warmer in
the shallows and cooler down deep. It's too bad this "fish-in" is so early
- these shallow lakes get over 20 C in the summer.

BTW: Several others have mentioned "Texas rig" and "Carolina rig" - can
someone describe these, please? (I get the feeling they'd both be illegal
he we're mainly single-barbless hooks in freshwater)

Lloyd




Karl Pollak March 11th 05 07:17 AM

x-no-archive: yes
Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

We're having a fish-in in April targeting the (illegally-stocked)
largemouth bass in the Vancouver area.


Where?

--
Greetings from Lotusland

[email protected] March 11th 05 01:45 PM


wrote:
Texas rigs are king here in Florida. Bump a worm along the bottom and
the bass will come.

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 05:30:55 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Texas rigged is a weight right against the hook.


Here in Georgia, we use them a lot. But, unlike Florida, there's a lot
of snags here, and fishing conditions change day by day, so you tend to
use a lot more baits, techniques here. When I came here from Florida, I
thought people here were nuts for abandoning the Texas rig after a few
casts. I soon followed suit. Another thing here, is that lots of times
the bank drops off fast, so you can bump a vertical jig down the rocks,
akin to smallie fishing in Tenn. and Kentucky impounds.



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